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JimHarbor at 2:49PM, Nov. 2, 2012
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I though this would be a good idea as a way to Showcase heroes villians and conepts that may not be fleshed otu enough for a full series, but still good enough for several one shots and shorts.
Basically I image we could do a Showcase Presents, type of comic series in which each story is made by a differnt creative team about a differnt all-new character. We could take some of the charaters in the Heroes and Villians threads who have yet to appear anywhere and, if the original creatos have had a block with them, let another writer go with it.
A series of shorts and one shots would also be a good way to ease new artists and writers into the community before doing big projects like on HA.
And, if any character becomes a runaway hit, they can be expanded into an ongoing or a part in another comic.
So thoughts?
JimHarbor at 12:36PM, Nov. 17, 2012
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Ok, I just got word from Nihil and he had quite the driection for this. He said that he's always liked the idea of a Brave and the Bold/ DC Presents set up were we have established characters having short adventures with new characters.
So for example one issue could be "The Duck Presents... HERO COMICS FEATURING BOMBSEHLL ADN THE BATTLE BELLES!" The next could be ""The Duck Presents... HERO COMICS FEATURING KAINE THE WHITE SHADOW AND CAT KID!" or something. 
Any ideas?
I figure we could write them like the Teasers in the B:TBATB show, were they were cappable of introducing new characters very easily as set up for future full epiosdes.
ironhand at 12:52PM, Nov. 17, 2012
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I have an idea swirling around where we focus on the golden/silver age line of heroes. I remember someone mentioning it but it never really came to much. It would be a brief, one issue which would show how things used to be and maybe set up that past world for someone else to take on if they wanted.
I would probably write about PowerPatriot, Watchman and then other established heroes out there - as well as newly created. This might work under this feature instead of an actual HA issue.
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JimHarbor at 9:50PM, Nov. 17, 2012
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Nice idea, although that might work better in the Heroes the Strip than here. From what I can tell this is more of a way to introduce new Huniverse charcaters who dont have there own series yet and set up stuff for future HA and maybe HU plots. Like a Pilot Anthology, think O Yeah! Cartoons.
ironhand at 11:28PM, Nov. 17, 2012
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I'm not sure the golden age stuff would work in a strip. Like you said, this is about introducing new characters before they have a series - and widening the universe. This is what the golden age story would be. It's a huge expansion of the HUniverse and introduces new characters, and fleshes out already seen heroes. Having this in a strip with only a few panels, I think, won't work.
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JimHarbor at 3:22AM, Nov. 18, 2012
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You mIsunderstand the scale of the strip. Think something like Prince Valient or the Superman Newspaper strips. It'd still be of the same scope, just in a differing medium. Your idea seems a bit Volumous for this venture though, whihc is why I sugested it for the script.
Although, we probably are getting a bit ahead of ourselves, why dont we has out some story treatments and see where we go from there?
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irrevenant at 1:24AM, Feb. 26, 2013
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Love the "Brave and the Bold" concept.  I've had a character concept floating around for a while that'd be great to introduce this way.  Was there a particular length (eg. number of pages) we need to aim for? 
Thanks. 
Abt_Nihil at 7:20AM, March 1, 2013
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We haven't established any general rules regarding length. My idea was that this sort of story would allow for shorter stories (around 10 to 15 pages, or even 4-page-shorts like the HU Adventures), but that's not a necessary requirement.
irrevenant at 8:08PM, April 4, 2013
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I've noticed that the HA setting is kinda low on villains. If you look at the wiki there are more heroes than villains!  (There are a few villains missing from the wiki , but not enough to make a large difference).

Typically comics universes have a sizable 'rogues gallery' of villains for each hero. This adds variety and richness to the universe (although one hopes they don't all get out of jail at the same time! O_O).

This project could be a great way to introduce a variety of villains to increase the available pool. 

BTW, is this going to be published on DD as a separate comic, or as part of HA? 
irrevenant at 8:34PM, April 4, 2013
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P.S. The Brave and the Bold idea is brilliant (ooh, alliteration! :D).  But the original 'Showcase' idea supported possibilities that the B&B approach doesn't.




For example, the "Origin of..." mini-stories in HA #0 were a great bite-sized read that introduced readers to characters who were going to be important later. That is exactly the sort of thing that "Heroes Comics Presents" sounds like it should be doing and which we need done. 




Maybe HCP could include both "HA Teamup Up, introducing..." stories and ""Origin of..." stories (each maybe labelled as such)? 
shastab24 at 7:50PM, April 7, 2013
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On the villains: I think there's significantly more, considering the amount of comics that make up the HUniverse, but it can be whether they've been mentioned on the boards.  It can all come down to wanting to use them.  But since the villains have appeared in other comics, it's possible people shy away from them due to the fact that they likely have already been defeated, or don't seem like much of a threat to a team of heroes.  Therefore, I can understand the idea of new villains for the comic.  I recently unearthed a few character sketches my older brother did in sixth grade, and a little of some I did at the same time (fifth grade) and thought I'd put some character behind them, after asking my older brother which of his I might be able to use.  Considering they were drawn in the 90s before the 90s antihero archetype became tired, the drawings (whether intended to be hero or villain) can easily work as villainous ones.  Heck, I found the original drawings of two characters that were inspiration to two characters who have appeared in my own comic, and the only reason why my characters don't look like that is I lost the original drawings for a while.  I also have some villains from a Mortal Kombat knockoff I came up with when I was younger, who I can revamp and put on the villain board.  After all, even though they likely won't be all used, it's nice to have a large rogue's gallery to fall back on when you need a villain.
 
As to the origin story stuff, I've been thinking of how that could be implemented as a regular issue.  At least with the heroes, we could have all the ones who haven't been given a proper origin yet (or some of them) get together and tell campfire stories, of sorts, each recounting their origin.
 
What would also be cool is to do something along the lines of what Heroes Unite Chronicles was going to do (though only the Bombshell story saw the light of day on that project), with different people doing a solo story with a character that is not their own.  Such a thing needn't introduce new backstory like Al did with Bombshell, but it could give a new spin on the characters and help for characterization overall.
 
In the end, a spin-off should be something that feels a bit different than that from which it came.  Heroes Alliance is less tightly controlled than Heroes Unite and actually feels more communal because of it (and, of course, now has the uniqueness of the only one still a community project).  Heroes Unite Adventures had the length of the stories going for it, but also a cohesively singular vision to each story (each one only having one artist apiece, after all) that was not there in Heroes Unite.  Personally, I think a regular team-up comic in which HUniverse characters can participate should probably be one that allows for more interdimensional pairings, lest it feel too much like Heroes Alliance itself.

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