The Everchangers is a comic of a very wide spectrum. It does not concentrate on a plot or story line, characters change all the time and simply put it is a comic where I am trying to insert whizzy ideas which (although might be old or already used) I try to present in my own way, using my own style and perspective.
At the very moment I have only (wow) two strips. Those that have seen them already will notice that my skills in using MS Paint are exceptional (even though, in truth, I do not use it). The jokes presented in the these two strips might seem boring, uninsteressting, but that is why I am posting this here, to get some demoralising critique.
The updates for the comic are meant to happen on Mondays, Wendnesdays and Fridays, and my thirs issue is already on the making. Bue (insert *gasp* sound here) it will be a sprite comic. I know people deslike these, but what I aiming at doing is to be broad and not limited to only MS Paint (even though I do not use it). The Thirs Issue will pop-up on Monday so for the moment I would be thankful if the two strips that are ready (no matter how bad they are) will be commented by (much more) experienced comic artists, writerx and coworkers.
Enjoy.
WriterX
(Any questions will be answered in this topic, unless sent by mail, then I will also answer by mail. Also if you have any ideas you would like to see in my comic, any specific computer game, movie series or anything similar I am open for (almost) anything.)
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[CRIT] The Everchangers
WriterX
at 2:29PM, Aug. 11, 2007
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WriterX
at 1:36PM, Aug. 29, 2007
I would like to bump the topic. I know a month did not pass but it has been a while... and without even "Your borders are stupid" I would have to assume I am a demi-god of web-comicing (and I can assure you, I am not).
Some open and loud mouthes criticism would be nice. If you want I may comment in exchange on your comics. Just say the word.
WriterX
(Still looking for people who would like to help me in a few issues.)
Some open and loud mouthes criticism would be nice. If you want I may comment in exchange on your comics. Just say the word.
WriterX
(Still looking for people who would like to help me in a few issues.)
last edited on July 14, 2011 4:52PM
Kilroy
at 11:29PM, Aug. 29, 2007
My first suggestion: put a link to the comic in your thread. A lot of people are very, very lazy, and don't want to go to your user lookup to get to the comic.
My second suggestion: narrower pages. Scrolling sideways to read the comic is a little cumbersome.
My third suggestion: proofread your comics for spelling and grammar. Small errors in the text are extremely distracting, for some reason. Or maybe that's just me...
And now for actual creative things...
So, my favorites of all your pages were the two with the creature from hell. It's extremely difficult to explain why something is or isn't funny, but I'll try: they both gave us the opposite of what we expect. Your other pages (excepting the second artist one, which I liked) had had a payoff that had nothing to do with the buildup. When something happens that's the opposite of what you expect, it's funny, but when it's completely unrelated to anything that happened before it, it's confusing. When a fiend from hell marches menacingly up and then politely explains its purpose, that's funny. When "Raaa," and "This place doesn't have cable" are defined as the worst sounds in hell, that's funny. Both of those respond to a "black" buildup with a "white" payoff. They're not expected, but they feel deliberate, like you've considered, "without brining in something unrelated, what won't they be expecting?" When a soldier spontaneously turns into a cow, it makes your audience wonder if it's missed something. Here you have a "black" buildup and a "twelve" payoff. It's confusing when it feels like the end of the joke was randomly chosen. So, I guess my overall point is this: giving us what we don't expect is good, but only if it has some connection to what's come before. If it just comes completely out of left field, it's confusing.
So I hope I've been helpful to you. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it's difficult to be helpful without saying anything critical. And there were parts I really liked. If I'm unclear to you, disregard me completely; if I am clear and you don't agree, disregard me completely. If any of what I've said is useful to you, I will be happy to have helped.
And I would be happy to do the art for a few pages for you. Not all the time (school starts next week and I've got my own comic to keep up with), but every now and again. There's a link to my comic in my sig; you can see my art there and send me a PQ if you're interested.
My second suggestion: narrower pages. Scrolling sideways to read the comic is a little cumbersome.
My third suggestion: proofread your comics for spelling and grammar. Small errors in the text are extremely distracting, for some reason. Or maybe that's just me...
And now for actual creative things...
So, my favorites of all your pages were the two with the creature from hell. It's extremely difficult to explain why something is or isn't funny, but I'll try: they both gave us the opposite of what we expect. Your other pages (excepting the second artist one, which I liked) had had a payoff that had nothing to do with the buildup. When something happens that's the opposite of what you expect, it's funny, but when it's completely unrelated to anything that happened before it, it's confusing. When a fiend from hell marches menacingly up and then politely explains its purpose, that's funny. When "Raaa," and "This place doesn't have cable" are defined as the worst sounds in hell, that's funny. Both of those respond to a "black" buildup with a "white" payoff. They're not expected, but they feel deliberate, like you've considered, "without brining in something unrelated, what won't they be expecting?" When a soldier spontaneously turns into a cow, it makes your audience wonder if it's missed something. Here you have a "black" buildup and a "twelve" payoff. It's confusing when it feels like the end of the joke was randomly chosen. So, I guess my overall point is this: giving us what we don't expect is good, but only if it has some connection to what's come before. If it just comes completely out of left field, it's confusing.
So I hope I've been helpful to you. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it's difficult to be helpful without saying anything critical. And there were parts I really liked. If I'm unclear to you, disregard me completely; if I am clear and you don't agree, disregard me completely. If any of what I've said is useful to you, I will be happy to have helped.
And I would be happy to do the art for a few pages for you. Not all the time (school starts next week and I've got my own comic to keep up with), but every now and again. There's a link to my comic in my sig; you can see my art there and send me a PQ if you're interested.
Corpus Mustelarum
Kilroy was here.
Kilroy was here.
last edited on July 14, 2011 1:15PM
WriterX
at 3:01AM, Aug. 30, 2007
Kilroy
My first suggestion: put a link to the comic in your thread. A lot of people are very, very lazy, and don't want to go to your user lookup to get to the comic.
My second suggestion: narrower pages. Scrolling sideways to read the comic is a little cumbersome.
My third suggestion: proofread your comics for spelling and grammar. Small errors in the text are extremely distracting, for some reason. Or maybe that's just me...
And now for actual creative things...
So, my favorites of all your pages were the two with the creature from hell. It's extremely difficult to explain why something is or isn't funny, but I'll try: they both gave us the opposite of what we expect. Your other pages (excepting the second artist one, which I liked) had had a payoff that had nothing to do with the buildup. When something happens that's the opposite of what you expect, it's funny, but when it's completely unrelated to anything that happened before it, it's confusing. When a fiend from hell marches menacingly up and then politely explains its purpose, that's funny. When "Raaa," and "This place doesn't have cable" are defined as the worst sounds in hell, that's funny. Both of those respond to a "black" buildup with a "white" payoff. They're not expected, but they feel deliberate, like you've considered, "without brining in something unrelated, what won't they be expecting?" When a soldier spontaneously turns into a cow, it makes your audience wonder if it's missed something. Here you have a "black" buildup and a "twelve" payoff. It's confusing when it feels like the end of the joke was randomly chosen. So, I guess my overall point is this: giving us what we don't expect is good, but only if it has some connection to what's come before. If it just comes completely out of left field, it's confusing.
So I hope I've been helpful to you. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but it's difficult to be helpful without saying anything critical. And there were parts I really liked. If I'm unclear to you, disregard me completely; if I am clear and you don't agree, disregard me completely. If any of what I've said is useful to you, I will be happy to have helped.
And I would be happy to do the art for a few pages for you. Not all the time (school starts next week and I've got my own comic to keep up with), but every now and again. There's a link to my comic in my sig; you can see my art there and send me a PQ if you're interested.
1) Ah yes, forgot about it completely. I am a bummer when it comes down to such details... (though in practice it is an essential part of any Plug or Crit).
2) I will have to work on that. I am just afraid that when I have large ammounts of text they will suddenly "compress" and nobody will be able to read them.
3) Yes, indeed, I should do that more often.
As to the rest. I know the comic with the cow is... strange. I was not sure what I thought at the time. (possibly ate too much beef the other day).
I have nothing against people throwing mud at my work. Without "help" from others... well what would be the point of ?
If you could really help me on realising one specific idea I will send ye a PM in a few minutes on the details... I hope you can draw parrots :D
Thanks again for the help.
WriterX
last edited on July 14, 2011 4:52PM
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