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marine at 2:03AM, May 3, 2007
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I really enjoyed Planet Hulk. Its probably my second favorite Hulk story that I ever read (my favorite being one where he goes to a future and fights an evil super hulk named Maestro, I belive the name was future imperfect but I could be mistaken) and I am hotly awaiting this one.

Anyone else looking forward to this? The first two issues of planet hulk's lead up came out yesterday. So looks like Hulk's ready to smash some people.
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ccs1989 at 2:09PM, May 3, 2007
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Well, it seems like it's just there as a counter to Civil War. Hulk comes back, bashes people up, everything in the Marvel Universe ends up as it was, except Tony Stark might be emo for a while/hospitalized due to his being owned by Hulk.
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marine at 8:40PM, May 3, 2007
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Pro tip: it was actually in place before Civil War, but they decided to do Civil War first as it was more relevant.

I don't think its going to put things back to the status quo. It appears She-Hulk's going to be with hulk and doc sampson isn't. Drama!
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Zenstrive at 12:11AM, May 5, 2007
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I prefer Infinite Crisis, 52, and the up and coming Countdown to Civil War, Planet Hulk, and World War Hulk.

DC's series has more meats to them than the beat-em-up series from Marvel !
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ccs1989 at 12:12PM, May 6, 2007
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I'm kinda tired of all the major DC and Marvel comics these days. I still read some of em because of certain good writers and artists, but overall I think they're fairly unoriginal.

Dark Horse and Image is where it's at. See the Free Comic Book Day promo for "Pantheon City"? Now THAT looks like a good comic.
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marine at 3:18AM, May 7, 2007
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DC's series has more meats to them than the beat-em-up series from Marvel !


Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Marvel has infinitely more depth than DC. How great can your signature character be when his most memorable story was his "death" which was hardly even a death. A pissed off alien clone kills him in a fight. The crap levels were off the charts man!

Meanwhile over in Marvel, theres always something really cool going on. Just look at some of the rant I'm about to rave.

Ultimate Marvel - If you're a DC loser and just realizing it, you've gotta pick up some ultimate marvel trades. Its basicly starting all their characters back at the begging with some modern twists. For example, Captain America's a dirty fighting WW2 vet or Peter-Parker's only 15 and works as the web designer at the Daily Bugle.

Spider-man 3 - The biggest movie of the year was released, based off of everyone whose a man's favorite supervillian, venom. No one whose seen anything relating to Venom that has the mindset of a 12 year old (which if you're on the internet, on a webcomics community site's forum, reading a post of a random asshole, you're a 12 year old fanboy at heart) is going to instantly realize that he's the coolest villian Spider-man has. Now if you look at it with literary glasses, you'd also see he's possibly pider-man's greatest foe ever. First off his powers are everything Spider-man has, but he's much stronger then him. Also Venom can cancel Spider-man's spider sense so he can attack him from behind or literally ooze out of nowhere. He uses lethal force and has a great costume design. Even in the movie, where he's much skinnier and played by a cocksucker, he's still the coolest thing in a film full of cool things. DC doesn't have Venom. They have a pissed off alien clone, not a pissed off guy wearing a suit that was previously worn by Spider-man giving him all of his powers.

Dark Phoenix Saga - retcons be damned, this is one of the coolest storylines ever to run in the X-men books. If you've not read it, you've got to. I could name probably five more x-men stories that really rule ass. How many cool batman stories are there that you can name off the top of your head DCfan? I'm thinking two, possibly three at the most. Now think about Marvel's awesome story arcs. Daredevil Born Again. Days of Futures Past. Maximum Carnage. Age of Apocalypse. Even the crapfest that was Onslaught had a better premise then some of the batman stories I've had the misfortune to read. The only Batman stuff I can think of is Frank Miller's Year One Dark Knight Returns, Alan Moore's killing joke, and certain points in Knightfall weren't entirely gay. But still thats just four. I could keep naming off X-men stories that are classics. I won't even begin to mention the awesomeness that is Spider-man or The Fanastic Four's classic story arcs. Coming of Galactus? The Night Gwen Stacy Died? Its endless over at the house of ideas.

DC had to retcon its entire world in the 80s - Marvel put its characters in a pocket universe for awhile, but thats not like Superboy prime literally just punching a hole into continuity. The x-men are notorious for their comic book deaths, but at least they don't make it a big fuss when someone dies. Over at DC it was their big thing to let Superman die for like four years. Thats a long time to run with a stupid story arc. The worst marvel did was probably the Clone Saga or Onslaught. But everything can't be perfect all the time. Even Tarintino's done some shitty movies.

If you'll look at the box office gross of the marvel movies versus the dc movies, you'll see something interesting. Marvel absolutely dominates the market. Even their worst movies are better than DC's garbage. Daredevil and Ghost Rider for example, both pretty crappy movies with horrendous what the fuck moments, are not nearly as bad as the Joel Shoefucker batman's. Nicholas Cage, whose terrible at everything even Fu Man Chu, was a better Johnny Blaze than Clooney was as Batman. Even Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck, who is easily the worst person alive right now, he was better in daredevil then Val Kilmer in batman forever. The scene where he fights the wrong girl in the schoolyard (should've been echo, not elektra) wasn't nearly as horrible as a scene in Batman & Robin where Batman pulls out his batcreditcard. All they would have to do is trace his fucking credit card numbers to bruce wayne. And boom, you've got batman. Did Ivy or any of her goons think of that easy piece of logic? No. Granted, Daredevil did some terribly out of character actions in his film, but the bat credit card is epic status of failure.

Thusly my point is proven. Alien clones suck, but aliens with the same powers are awesome. Also Marvel's had superior writers working with better characters. Another point, Marvel's always had better video games. Maximum Carnage's probably on everyones list of best 16-bit games. Also did I mention their movies? They've had some misses, and they've had some hits. But at least they never flew around the earth to travel back in time or had a british guy play batman.
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Zenstrive at 6:52AM, May 11, 2007
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DC's series has more meats to them than the beat-em-up series from Marvel !


Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Marvel has infinitely more depth than DC. How great can your signature character be when his most memorable story was his "death" which was hardly even a death. A pissed off alien clone kills him in a fight. The crap levels were off the charts man!


I was talking about 52 and Countdown against Civil War and World War Hulk.

Yeah, Civil War has all that "uncover or you suffer" stuffs going one and then killed one silly costumed antic, World War Hulk has "me green, me horny, me smash people who put hulk in star" things going on.

52 has the return of multiverse, the born of Ghost Detectives, the rising of Booster Gold and Supernova, and the change of all things magical, plus the cleansing of Batman, the return of Steel, and the born of BATWOMAN, all done on weekly basis and none of them are delayed !!

52 has taught us that minor characters can make great impacts if handled nicely.

And now we have Countdown going on, and again, minor characters are highlighted!

Can't wait to see where Paul Dini and gang steer this spine of 2007/2008 DCU.

And oh yeah, we have big-boobed blondies leading Justice League and Justice Society right now!
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marine at 1:25PM, May 11, 2007
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52 didn't teach us shit about minor characters, Annihilation did. Nova's now an A-lister, more so than ever in my book. It was an awesome "event" and much cooler than the faggotry of Booster Gold and Steel. I'd rather read about Drax The Destroyer and Thanos any day of the week. I'd also most certainly take Silver Surfer over any DC hero, even Batman.

You just don't get it do you? Marvel's a superior company by and large. They've not only got the best intellectual property's, but they have the better talent. Almost all of the artwork looks good enough, and the writing is always sharp. The continuity errors are there, and the sliding timescale makes things wierd. But you know what? Its comic books. Who the fuck cares. The Punisher's still a vietnam vet at age 30, and Spider-man crashes the internet in the same story line. Thats no where near as terrible as some of the moronic errors DC has produced.

They've also got a multi verse that never had to have continuity rebooted. Just read the Exiles to find out more about the multiverse. If you want an else worlds Marvel style, try the ultimate books. Or even better, the punisher MAX series. Its absolutely the greatest book being published, and has been since Garth Ennis started it. No other book has been as consistently awesome as the punisher max has. If thats not your thing, then the regular continuity's made of pure win.

It had three events running almost simultaniously, as well as releasing movies. Not just shitty movies like Ghost Rider eithar. Blockbuster record setting movies. Spider-man 3 will absolutely go down as the movie of the year. Is anyone but DC faggots giving two shits about The Dark Knight? No. Fuck no. But ask anyone about something like the Iron Man movie or The Punisher 2, and you're going to get nothing but edge of your seat "whens it coming out doodz?" responses.

And no one, no one has like DC's video games. Not even you Dickless Cocksucker fans can argue that point. As shitty as the Spider-man 3 movie game is, its leaps and bounds better than Superman's movie game. In fact, I'd say its probably one of the better games to be released this year. Need I mention more marvel based games? Marvel Ultiamte Alliance is one of the better games released last year, and with the DLC made available its only better now. The DC game that was a complete rip off of it and the X-men legends games was nowhere near as good or as succesful. Some other awesome marvel games:

The Hulk Ultimate Destruction
The Punisher
Spider-man 2
Ultimate Spider-man
X-Men Legends 1 & 2
Marvel Nemesis

The latest DC games have all sucked more ass than Boy George in his entire lifetime. As easy as concept as Batman should be to put in a game, their cunning attempts at being clever have failed completely. Batman Begins was a terrible game. Worse than spider-man 3's frustrating chase missions and other bullshit missions. The Punisher game is easily one of my favorite xbox games. Now I double fucking dog dare you to try and come back, because I'll just point out more of DC's failure, like Vertigo or how gay their main heroes are.
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ccs1989 at 9:54AM, May 12, 2007
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Oh come on guys, you're falling right into a comic fan cliche. "I'm a Marvel!" "I'm a DC". Blah blah blah. Especially you, marine.

Good comics are good comics. Both companies have produced shit and both companies have produced good stuff. Personally I'm more partial towards Vertigo and Image myself, but that doesn't mean I won't read DC or Marvel.

Now I'm not saying you shouldn't have company loyalty, because that's your choice, but just don't turn into a cliche that refuses to look past just company names and see that both companies are far from perfect but create some good stuff here and there.
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