I do not consider Jackson's trilogy to be inferior to the books, seeing as how they're 2 separate mediums and shouldn't be compared in such a fashion. Comparing movies to books only leads to elitism such as the one the author of Pinky demonstrated, going so far as to miss out on the theatrical release of LOTR 3.
I beg to differ. I don't think it leads to elitism. Elitism means that you shun a medium merely on principle. That would be really very wrong indeed. Plus I really don't think Ozone is elitist. After all, he did try two out of three movies, saw they were not to his tastes and decided not to watch the third one. Nothing wrong with trial and error, right? That is not elitism, that is assertion. To watch a movie merely because it is hailed by everyone as a masterpiece when you think otherwise would mean weakness of character to hold your own opinion, especially after you have actually sampled the thing. Comparing books and their adaptions to film is very constructive. After all, it is what creators need to elevate their creation to stand on the same level (or even higher, if they can manage it) than the original source. That can only be achieved through comparison.
If you think I'm being obsessively antagonistic, it's because the elitism demonstrated in this thread has loud echos of the prejudice faced by the comics/manga medium in America, and by the older generation. It's extremely annoying to a comics/manga lover/artist such as myself.
I do think you were venting some things here that may not necessarily have been entirely pertinent to this discussion, yes. :) That's fine, really. But the source of your anger (shunning manga as a medium) is really not the same with critiquing or stating opinions on a single
a medium such as film-making. In the case of the comparison of the novels and Jackson's movies, the point was not to shun adapting books to film as a whole, but whether this was achieved effectively (and to what purpose/level) in this particular case
. This is a matter of opinion, of course; but whether for or against any statement pertaining to this discussion, no opinion on this issue constitutes elitism. Elitism requires sweeping AND
absolutist remarks about a whole category, which is not the case here.
Now, regarding your real gripe: It is definitely wrong to shun manga, and those who are really dedicated to art
know not to. However, as my personal opinion, I think this shouldn't be that annoying to you if those turning up their nose to manga are not actually forbidding you to enjoy (reading or drawing) what you like. If you like manga, no American or representative of the older generation will stop you from enjoying it, correct? What others like should not be really that much your concern. Especially if the comments are confined to pejorative remarks with no real value as to the artwork concerned. This of course is a digression of the thread's topic, and there are others discussing manga and discrimination against it or lack thereof.
You may agree or disagree with the above. But it's what I feel.
There is nothing to agree or disagree with, really. Do you think there is? :D