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What comic do you think is overrated?
patrickdevine at 2:40PM, June 16, 2009
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I actually envy you people who've read enough comics to find the overrated ones. The only comics I've ever read (published) have been things that I've liked.


This actually comes as a surprise to me-- I always assumed that you have a graphic novel super-library in your basement.
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Dark Pascual at 4:15PM, June 16, 2009
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Most anything Marvel does. Alot of what DC does, and blah, blah, blah. True independent comics is where it's at. Now Marvel in the 60's and 70's, could not be touched......sadly, it's all tripe now. Just the opinion of a comic book fan of 39 years.


Honestly...I think that many independent comics are also overrated... and pretencious.

I had the chance to read some cool stuffs, like Mouse Guard and the Flight Anthologies. But I never felt like the indie scene made things WAAAAAAAAAAY better than the Big 2 (4 if you wanna count Dark Horse and Image).

I never understood the "It' s mainstream and cool so it sucks" mindset...In my opinion, is as bad as both the "It's old so it sucks" and "It's new so it sucks" non-sense...

I guess that all can be resumed in "I don't like it so it sucks"...
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harkovast at 8:13AM, June 17, 2009
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I hate reading things that I like!
I only like reading things I hate!
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zaymac at 9:32AM, June 17, 2009
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I hate reading things that I like!
I only like reading things I hate!
Hate is fun, and makes you seem cool and edgy!


Cool! That means you hate Bear VS. Zombies!

I really need a few more people that openly hate my comic. Any takers?

It's a Grizzly Bear battling Zombies. Do you need to know more?
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Kristen Gudsnuk at 9:44PM, June 17, 2009
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I hate reading things that I like!
I only like reading things I hate!
Hate is fun, and makes you seem cool and edgy!


hark is showing his colors as some sort of bitter comic nazi!
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ifelldownthestairs at 3:37AM, July 7, 2009
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I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!! you crazy european bastard!! GIVE US OUR WAY OF LIFE BACK
you know why birds don't write their memoirs? because birds don't lead epic lives, that's why. who'd want to read what a bird does? nobody. that's who.
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elektro at 7:40PM, July 10, 2009
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Many people on the internet often mistake "overrated" with "crap". Now, many times those terms can overlap to describe something, but they do not mean the same thing. Take for example a comic I think is overrated: Black Hole. I read it twice, got the plot, think the art's nice at times, but it's just not my thing. It's not a bad comic, but it was overrated/overhyped to me before I picked it up and I was underwhelmed.
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JillyFoo at 6:30PM, July 20, 2009
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Many people on the internet often mistake "overrated" with "crap". Now, many times those terms can overlap to describe something, but they do not mean the same thing. Take for example a comic I think is overrated: Black Hole. I read it twice, got the plot, think the art's nice at times, but it's just not my thing. It's not a bad comic, but it was overrated/overhyped to me before I picked it up and I was underwhelmed.


Yeah that's it. It's not crap. It's just too many people think it's amazing!
For me... Lots of manga. Fruits Basket. So many girls at cons still like that anime/manga ,but it's not that good.

Naruto..Bleach...there's too much of it.

Peanuts in Minnesota is over rated. Ok he came from here, but can we move on to other comics in the newspaper?
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ozoneocean at 7:17PM, July 20, 2009
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This actually comes as a surprise to me-- I always assumed that you have a graphic novel super-library in your basement.
Ha! I have about half a shelf full of graphic novels.:)
 
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PPPchairman at 5:28AM, July 21, 2009
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THE DARK NIGHT STRIKES AGAIN- I loved reading the Dark Night Returns because Frank Miller really does make Batman into a total badass and finally seeing that pussy superman get his ass kicked in the end made me so happy. Anyway when I got done reading DK2 I was so pissed. I think Frank's artwork actually got worse and he spent most of the book just trying to cram in every superhero form the DC universe into this comic so Batman wasn't really any part of the story anymore. Not to mention the part that really pissed me off was the whole Robin being a villian cause Batman fired him thing. That made no god-damn sense especially since in the Dark Night Returns it still sounds like Batman and Robin are still friends.

WOLVERINE THE END- I'm not a big fan of Wolverine in the first place but I do really like the Wolverine Origins series and honestly reading this comic was torture. Almost none of it made a damn bit of sense. Wolverines brother finally pops out of no where to reveal that he has been stalking Wolverine for hundreds of years, none of the weapon x stuff is real that was just Xavier messing with him to keep them apart (which X admits too) and the only reason Wolverine's brother wants to reunite is so they can take over the economy with some kind of bomb/computer.

NARUTO- MY GOD! I really don't understand how people can read that garbage. The only good thing about it was that whole Haku/Zabuza story ark because at least that was original and a good ninja story while everything else was just the same repetive anime nonsense. None of it is really original and it makes ninja's look like a bunch of magical retards. And yes I'm a pirate fan but I respect my natural enemy enough to know they are a very real threat and shouldn't be taken lightly becasue of Naruto, like pirates shouldn't be taken lightly because of Jack Sparrow. Make 'em dance the Hempen Jig sez I.
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NickGuy at 1:01PM, July 21, 2009
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Not to mention the part that really pissed me off was the whole Robin being a villian cause Batman fired him thing. That made no god-damn sense especially since in the Dark Night Returns it still sounds like Batman and Robin are still friends.



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Bruce Wayne: "Not for seven years, Jim. You know that."
JG: "STILL, huh? I'm damn sorry about that."

its on the freaking 3RD PAGE OF THE BOOK.

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PPPchairman at 8:05AM, July 22, 2009
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Honestly, I just figured there was some small emnity between the two because Bruce quit not cause he fired him.
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trevoramueller at 11:55AM, July 22, 2009
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For The Temple of a Thousand Tears, I was just really digging alliteration at the time and it just rolled off the tongue. For @$$hole!, I was pooping at the time....

...no, seriously.
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skoolmunkee at 5:04PM, July 22, 2009
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I think you posted that in the wrong thread :]
   IT'S OLD BATMAN
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GracehFaceh at 7:09PM, July 22, 2009
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My sister is more of a print comic guru then me, though I do sneak them off her shelf 'cause I like the purtty arts. There are, however, several webcomics that I feel just don't deserve as much popularity as they have.

Twokinds: One of my old boyfriends was a loyal fan to this comic. Low and behold, he was a pervert and after I dumped him, he started telling everyone he was a furry. Multiply him by like a thousand and you have the reason why this comic is popular. Add some girls who like the kewl animes style. I can understand why one would start to read- it seems to have a fairly entertaining plot at first, but then it dead ends into a bunch of tasteless situations with some plot thrown in here and there. Don't get me wrong, the art is beautiful, but it's wasted on fuzzy, nippleless breasts.

Questionable Content: It's very... niche oriented I suppose. Everything is very indie. Bunch of 20-somethings talking about obscure bands, wearing quirky tee shirts, running a snarky coffee shop, having casual sex, drinking like crazy, and owning pervy robots. Oh how random of you sir.... Admittedly, I still have this is my favorites. So I guess there are a lot of people like me out there who can't stand the constant sarcasm but just need to know who Faye hooks up with! Or if Dora and Martin stay together! Or or or.. *zones off*

Marry Me: Started out good, with an interesting idea. Progressed very very slowly then took a random turn toward the end (yet still predictable) and now it's just quirky adventures of the cast! There's only an update once in a great while, anyway. People still stick around though and beg for more. I don't have that kinda patience I suppose. Personally, I think Dreamless is one of Bobby Crosby's better works.

Most Yaoi comics: Look, if you want to make a comic about a gay couple- do it. But for God sake, does it have to conform to the stereotypical mold? Two really pretty men, one's shy and wimpy while the other's strong and manipulating! Sex sex sex! No strong female leads for this comic, beside... the men ALREADY look like women anyway! Groan. I like my men with broad shoulders, thick torsos and hair on their chests, legs, and dare I say? Pubic areas. I'm not one for teenage girl porn.

There are probably others but I can't really think of anymore right now. That's probably the most hateful post I've written in a while. I need to go bathe in lucky charms.

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blntmaker at 9:24PM, July 29, 2009
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So I guess if I'm going to choose comics I think are overrated, I'd choose most of the syndicated comics in the newspaper. I've found that I'm no longer even tempted to try and read them. It feels like they know they've gotten a free ride. They're "in the club" and can get by on cheap recycled jokes.

I've been trying to figure out if the newspaper comics were better when I was little, or if I had a painfully low threshold for funniness when I was little. I still believe Far Side and Calvin were good comics, so I've convinced we have lost some funniness over the years.



I'm with you on this one, Hawk. Something happened after Charles M. Schulz died...even when Berkeley Breathed left the game the FIRST time - Then when Watterson stopped doing Calvin and Hobbes...we got, as Chris Rock said, "a bunch of substitute teachers". Although, I am partial to anything Wiley Miller's Non Sequitur and Garry Trudeau is turning a moderate corner with Doonesbury.

Side note, I think I've had it with X-Men. If they aren't thinking of a way to expand the franchise, the new writers are retconning the devil out of it. Maybe I'm old school, but I just miss when there were six or seven CONSISTENT X-Men who were THE UNCANNY X-MEN. With a slow addition of new ones every 50 issues or so. Now, its as big as a professional football league.

The original premise from the 60's - making the series about racial prejudice, was on point. In the 21st Century, they have to find other ways to keep it relevant beyond the youth angst, sensationalism, and the tortured soul with the metal claws...what's his name...Hugh Jackman.

:-).
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Dark Pascual at 9:52PM, July 29, 2009
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Hawk
So I guess if I'm going to choose comics I think are overrated, I'd choose most of the syndicated comics in the newspaper. I've found that I'm no longer even tempted to try and read them. It feels like they know they've gotten a free ride. They're "in the club" and can get by on cheap recycled jokes.

I've been trying to figure out if the newspaper comics were better when I was little, or if I had a painfully low threshold for funniness when I was little. I still believe Far Side and Calvin were good comics, so I've convinced we have lost some funniness over the years.



I'm with you on this one, Hawk. Something happened after Charles M. Schulz died...even when Berkeley Breathed left the game the FIRST time - Then when Watterson stopped doing Calvin and Hobbes...we got, as Chris Rock said, "a bunch of substitute teachers". Although, I am partial to anything Wiley Miller's Non Sequitur and Garry Trudeau is turning a moderate corner with Doonesbury.

Side note, I think I've had it with X-Men. If they aren't thinking of a way to expand the franchise, the new writers are retconning the devil out of it. Maybe I'm old school, but I just miss when there were six or seven CONSISTENT X-Men who were THE UNCANNY X-MEN. With a slow addition of new ones every 50 issues or so. Now, its as big as a professional football league.

The original premise from the 60's - making the series about racial prejudice, was on point. In the 21st Century, they have to find other ways to keep it relevant beyond the youth angst, sensationalism, and the tortured soul with the metal claws...what's his name...Hugh Jackman.

:-).


The thing is that the whole "They are mutant so that's why they have superpowers" is lazy to me.

I know that both Lee and Kirby did it on purpose. After all, how many people can be pushed into a chemichal pool by a radioactive spider from Krypton that killed mommy and daddy...But at least with DC heroes they TRY to give them a more solid origin about their powers. Not always will made sense, but at least there is an effort.

That's why I liked the concept behind "House of M" and "Decimation", there was too many mutants with a lot of powers...JUST BECAUSE.

I was checking the list of characters affected by both storylines and its HUGE...
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zaymac at 9:35AM, July 30, 2009
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Has anyone mentioned Player VS. Player yet?

I think I just hate and think its overrated because its creator is such a douchebag. I mean he's always ranting about syndicated comics and other webcomics being stale and not very funny.

Um... Irony.

I mean it's ok, but to me it still follows the same 4 panel gag strip format as most of the strips that he complains about in the newspaper.

I respect what he's been able to do, but sorry Mr. Kurtz, your strip is not the be all end all to webcomics.

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Mr Lostman at 9:40AM, Aug. 15, 2009
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Flapjack: It's a spoungebob rip-off with a shitload of textures dumped on it and half the charm, i will never for the life of me get why some grown adults think this is worthy of being called 'art' or 'funny'.

What the hell is this bullshit? Explain yourself!
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Saint at 9:51AM, Aug. 15, 2009
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I've only ever read Watchmen and Scott Pilgrim.



I liked them both.




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