isukun
I can say for sure, most of the the world around me is not brown. The muted earth tones you see in modern games isn't realistic, either.

But it IS more realistic than the neon colors of Mario.

And brown isn't the only color that shows up, it's just the most common one. Generally because the areas the people are in are mostly brown.

actually, color pallet is more often than not manipulated to set mood. All those wartorn shooter environments are pushed to certain color pallets because it gives a dismall feel, not necessarily because a village full of wreckage actually looks like that. Take games like Resistance, for example, the real world doesn't look like this . And it isn't just a problem with Resistance, Gears of War , GRAW , and even Call of Duty all do the same thing manipulating the color pallet in favor of mood and less for realism. Mario may be more cartoony, but the more vibrant colorpallet actually mirrors real life a little more closely than the more "realistic" games which mute everything or turn it to brown.

isukun
actually, color pallet is more often than not manipulated to set mood. All those wartorn shooter environments are pushed to certain color pallets because it gives a dismall feel, not necessarily because a village full of wreckage actually looks like that. Take games like Resistance, for example, the real world doesn't look like this . And it isn't just a problem with Resistance, Gears of War , GRAW , and even Call of Duty all do the same thing manipulating the color pallet in favor of mood and less for realism. Mario may be more cartoony, but the more vibrant colorpallet actually mirrors real life a little more closely than the more "realistic" games which mute everything or turn it to brown.

Actually, I thought the call of duty one looked pretty real.

um, I hate an object such as the "iron ball" in pokemon. yay, you get to lose speed and if you're a flying type, you can be hit by ground.

Actually, I thought the call of duty one looked pretty real.

Are you kidding me? Grass and trees are nowhere near that desaturated in real life, not the mention the high levels of brown/orange added to the green before it's desaturated. Hell, the leaves on the tree in the background are straight out brown, despite it being a healthy tree. Most of the environments in Call of Duty are heavily desaturated, plus the lighting is off (color-wise) and they use a bit too much fogging at short distances. I've seen screenshots where soldiers are walking through tall grass and the grass is grey . These are not natural colors.

In the case of Call of Duty, it's done partially to create mood and partially to make everything blend together. Even the color scheme on the character models is too desaturated.

Isukun's exactly right. You're just fooled into think it's more real.
As he says, the colours are like that for the purpose of creating a "mood".

Another thing of course is a simple psychological trick- you associate vibrant, saturated colour with cartoonish imagery, so for something that tones this down you think it's more realistic.

Personally, I found the colours in COD4 more cartoonish because of the unrealistic sameness and the outline sort of feel the graphics have. While with Battlefield 2, the bright colours in the sky and grass etc have a much more real feel to me.

isukun

Actually, I thought the call of duty one looked pretty real.

Are you kidding me? Grass and trees are nowhere near that desaturated in real life, not the mention the high levels of brown/orange added to the green before it's desaturated. Hell, the leaves on the tree in the background are straight out brown, despite it being a healthy tree. Most of the environments in Call of Duty are heavily desaturated, plus the lighting is off (color-wise) and they use a bit too much fogging at short distances. I've seen screenshots where soldiers are walking through tall grass and the grass is grey . These are not natural colors.

In the case of Call of Duty, it's done partially to create mood and partially to make everything blend together. Even the color scheme on the character models is too desaturated.

I walked outside and looked at the grass.

It's the same color as the grass in Call of Duty.

Are we seriously arguing about what color grass is?

I'd say either Shplane doesn't water his grass enough or he has eye problems... -_-

Yeah, why not talk about grass colours? It's a part of modern game design just like the rest. :)

On that subject, sometimes I think games just go way too far with detail. Especially win games like CODD4, Crysis, and Battlefield 2. Even with the absolute best computers and graphics equipment, you can still see that it's just detailed textures over relatively simple polygonal shapes,- just wall-paper over a crude polygon world. For some reason I'm annoyed at games that try too hard to fake it.

Maybe he spray paints his lawn. The only time I've ever seen grass that color is on a black and white TV.

I'm just saying, grass isn't usually too vibrant of a color.

Especially not the grass that people would be around on CoD4. It's not like they're on someone's incredibly well kept lawn.

You people are crazy, the grass in Call of Duty 4 is red.

( I hope someone catches that )

Actually, I live in Savannah, GA, out in the middle of the marshes and I can say for a fact that even the tall grasses the soldiers would be walking through are much more vibrant than what's in those screen shots. The grass here starts out brown at the bottom, turns to a reddish hue and then goes to a fairly bright yellow before finishing off with a dark brown tip. From a distance on a dry day, the grass looks like a very warm yellow, kind of like the background color in the DD logo. During the Spring and Summer, that grass turns a bright green. It's almost as bright as the color of the duck, but with maybe a touch more yellow in it. A well maintained yard can actually vary in color depending on what kind of grass you're growing. Still, for the most part, cut grass is actually darker in color than natural grasses. Blades of grass are a darker color at the root than at the tip. As grass grows longer, the ends turn more of a bright yellow/green.

isukun
Actually, I live in Savannah, GA, out in the middle of the marshes and I can say for a fact that even the tall grasses the soldiers would be walking through are much more vibrant than what's in those screen shots. The grass here starts out brown at the bottom, turns to a reddish hue and then goes to a fairly bright yellow before finishing off with a dark brown tip. From a distance on a dry day, the grass looks like a very warm yellow, kind of like the background color in the DD logo. During the Spring and Summer, that grass turns a bright green. It's almost as bright as the color of the duck, but with maybe a touch more yellow in it. A well maintained yard can actually vary in color depending on what kind of grass you're growing. Still, for the most part, cut grass is actually darker in color than natural grasses. Blades of grass are a darker color at the root than at the tip. As grass grows longer, the ends turn more of a bright yellow/green.

I've NEVER seen grass as green as the DD duck.

You must be looking at mutant supergrass.

Stop trying to debate with Isukun. He will pwn your brain. Even just arguing over the color of grass, you stand no chance against him.

So true Mlai

And the grass in my backyard isn't the colour of the DD duck, that's a darker green. Some of it is, but most list lighter, and yes: nice and vibrant. :)

I'm starting to think there must be high pollution where Shplane lives? Maybe the sun isn't very bright...?

All I know now is that I want to see pics of Isukun's marshes, they sound groovy ^_^

I had thought for sure that Isukun is a city slicker. Who woulda thunk that he's a Bayou Billy!

Ok then, on to something else.

One big thing I'm sick of is people thinking that games have to be "New" and "Innovative" to be good. So if a game follows the same successful formula it has since the first one in its series, it's somehow bad?

I'm also sick of the perception that a game being "New" and "Innovative" automatically MAKES it good. Just because it has something shiney and new doesn't mean that whatever is shiney and new about it is actually GOOD.

Lord Shplane
I'm also sick of the perception that a game being "New" and "Innovative" automatically MAKES it good. Just because it has something shiney and new doesn't mean that whatever is shiney and new about it is actually GOOD.

YES. HELL YES. THANK YOU.

People kept screaming at me about how great Shadow the Colossus was. 'It's new and clever and interesting!' they cried. 'Hey! I like new and clever and interesting!' I thought. When I finally got to play it, it turned out to be as exciting and innovative as watching paint dry. Sure, the paint was a nice colour, and the wall had a lovely floral pattern, but it was still dull.

Whooooo! I get to ride around a completely lifeless landscape for hours looking for a giant rock to fight! Yay! It's essentially climbing a moving wall!

Bleh.