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To good for "The Duck"?
Huxley at 6:48PM, April 6, 2006
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Well, I am getting to that point of skill where I think I am getting pro and I am about to publish my comic. But what do you guys think? When you guys
get pro and start to get paid to do your comics ( like some of you probably will ) do you think you are gonna abandon DD. Cause most of this stuff on drunk duck is very ameture to average except for a few I read (yami no tainai,I come from mars....) and not much is pro.

Some people I knew that were pro and visited drunkduck migrated over to pencil jack or just stopped all together. What do you think?
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PoisonedV at 6:53PM, April 6, 2006
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Fuck if I know, that will never happen to me. I suck.
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hpkomic at 7:00PM, April 6, 2006
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There was a discussion about this on the forum before it went kablooey. Too bad it's gone, had some nice points to it.
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Inkmonkey at 8:02PM, April 6, 2006
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Most professional publishers have an exclusivity to the work one does; for example, if you end up working on a Marvel title, then you're generally not allowed to post the same pages online.

Anyway, that essentially means your main project isn't going to be published online. Also, if you're doing professional-quality, published work, then it has a tendency to eat up a lot of time, which, of course, keeps you from getting any side-projects going at a decent clip. You end up with a lot of preliminary sketches and promotional art you could post at an art site (like Deviantart), but DD is built for posting sequential, story-based art.

So really, once you go "pro", as it were, you likely won't be able to post on DD just based on time restraints as much as anything.
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spambot at 8:50PM, April 6, 2006
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As long as I'm not under some crazy contract, I still plan to post stuff to DD. Everyone here has been really good to us and it would be a small way I could return the favor :)

I'm also doing that other comic "Space Waffles ".
We now have a podcast called The Random Pirate Comics Show!
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Ronson at 4:17AM, April 7, 2006
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I've published two books so far and will be sending a third to the printers in a week.

As long as Drunk Duck continues to be a great service, I don't think there's any need to move on. But maybe I don't think of this so much as a career as I do an intense hobby.

I think that regardless of skill, going professional is a very difficult road to go down. Mostly because there are literally thousands of people out there trying to do what you want to do.

As far as being too good for DD, I don't get it. If you see Culture Shock, or Gunerkrigg Court or anything by Monique MacNaughton, or Elijah and Azuu or Mad World, or Cat! or Cosmic Dash or Gene or Dasien or Pinky TA, or .... well, you get the idea. I could pretty easily list a hundred DD comics that equal or exceed "professional" comic artists.

I can understand wanting your own website and wanting to be on your own without any ties to anyone else. Or if you feel that you shouldn't be offering your art for free anymore. That's all understandable.

But the idea that you're too good for DD is - quite honestly - silly because we're a community of differently skilled artists and writers.

I will say that by and large most of us on DD do comics because we love the medium and because we're having fun. I think maybe that's the differences you have with your peers here, because you want something more.
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subcultured at 7:51AM, April 7, 2006
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I think of it as a hobby. I haven't really given it much serious though past that. I like to create stories because its fun for me. I get to transverse along my reality and ill take as many people who are willing to go along for the ride.

As for leaving DD, i left the first time because everything started to slow down, now that dd is faster im staying. Although most of my old comics are still hosted at www.nightgig.com, it's good to get some critiques on my latest work :D
J
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madscott at 8:37AM, April 7, 2006
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I'd just like to point out that there is a large number of people hosted on DD. Finding ones that you feel are proquality may take more then looking at the front page.

That's part of DD's charm. The little guy get's just as much attention here as the bigger books.

Return of the Exile is a great example of a Pro Book on DD. Exposure is Exposure and that sometimes means staying on DD and On your own site and being on comicgenesis... etc
Please Read MadScott
And Please Visit http://www.nightgig.com
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Ian Jay at 5:25PM, April 7, 2006
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On the one hand, there's no practical reason not to leave DD. There's great hosting, an easy-to-use interface, thousands of eager viewers, and a total lack of the elitism you find on many other comic hosting sites.

Of course, some outside of DD may say that DD's tight-knit community-style approach to hosting comics (replete with community comics, games, contests, and what have you) may actually restrain comics creators and prevent them from striking out on their own ventures and starting an individual site. But we all know that opinion is a complete and total lie. (Run, Huxley! Don't look back! It's too late for me, but you can still escape with your individuality, so IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY JUST RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!!)

~IJ
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marine at 7:49PM, April 7, 2006
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I'm releasing a penis book in probably this summer. Nothing too fancy, just two big story arcs (over 14 pages) and about ten or twelve one page stories, intermixed with poetry, photography, and fake advertisements for things like a buddy boy pound psp game or a Picasso the ninja turtle action figure. Probably be around 50-60 pages and I'll sell em really really cheap.

Not that I think I'm better then DD. I know I am. ;-) ;-)
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hpkomic at 2:05PM, April 9, 2006
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*slides 50 dollars under the table for Ronson's plug of Cosmic Dash*
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Hawk at 3:29PM, April 9, 2006
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Ronson is the greatest!

Now, I'm just wondering what this comic of Huxley's is that is ready to go professional. There's no link to it.
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Coydog at 3:54PM, April 9, 2006
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Aw gee, thanks for the mention :D

DD is a great community. I'll always be around, one way or another.
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Gibbo at 4:16PM, April 9, 2006
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Good question...

I don't quite get it though, surely the whole POINT of having a webcomic is that it remains free... I mean, all the top guys, who are really good artists, and have really popular comics (I'm thinking along the lines of Penny-Arcade, Ctrl-Alt-Del, Machall, Applegeeks etc.) still don't charge you to view their stuff.

As far as I can tell, the 'professional' aspect of it comes into being able to sell stuff like books or t-shirts or whatever.

With regards to remaining on DD, I can't see how the quality of the comic should affect any reasons for it being or not being hosted here... the decision to make should be whether you want complete control over your own website or not.
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subcultured at 4:23PM, April 9, 2006
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I like the aspect of free comics. :D
cause im too lazy to go to the shop or pissed off at the lateness and low quality of real comics.

plus, i have no comic money :(
J
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Coydog at 6:23PM, April 10, 2006
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I like the aspect of free comics. :D
cause im too lazy to go to the shop or pissed off at the lateness and low quality of real comics.

plus, i have no comic money :(


I can count on the fingers of one hand the comics I've actually bought in the last five years.

Yes, IMO things ARE that crappy.
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subcultured at 7:07PM, April 10, 2006
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God bless the internet.
free stuff for all :D
and quality to boot!
J
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Huxley at 7:12PM, April 11, 2006
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Yeah thanks for all of the supplies.
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MDC at 2:12PM, April 14, 2006
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If I ever got a published comic, I would never abandon DD. I mean, come on; I'd have one published comic but that doesn't mean I want everyone to start paying for my original online comic. I know what thats like, its happened to alot of comics I read...and now I don't read them anymore. Who cares if you'd make money off of them, its about the enjoyment in writing them.

Thats my opinion, anyway...
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Huxley at 8:15PM, April 14, 2006
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Cough I mean replies.
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ccs1989 at 6:56AM, April 15, 2006
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Well, I self publish, but I'm nowhere near the skill of a pro, and I doubt I'd ever leave DD (cause, y'know, that's where all the readers of my comic are).

The trouble is there are a lot of bad comics on Drunk Duck. But that's why we have 'Favorites' lists. So that you don't have to pay attention to any of the bad comics.

Anyway, on an unrelated note, mind showing us some of your work?
http://ccs1989.deviantart.com

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subcultured at 7:18AM, April 15, 2006
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there seems to be a lot os sprites on dd, i wonder if people would buy a paper version of a sprite comic
J
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kytri at 9:20AM, April 15, 2006
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Wouldn't most sprite comics run into some serious copyright issues if they tried that?

Anywho as long as I'm still drawing Rift it will always be free online, and I'll probably do another webcomic when it's finished. I've never considered my art to be of professional quality but maybe by then it will be.
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magickmaker at 5:14AM, April 16, 2006
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If I ever get a job at Marvel, which I hope happens someday, I would still post my comic online because, frankly, my comic works well on the internet and I would feel bad for charging people to see it. That's my first comic. For my second comic, which I wouldn't mind seeing done by a different artist, I would kill to have Marvel or even DC publish.
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ccs1989 at 6:56AM, April 16, 2006
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If I ever get a job at Marvel, which I hope happens someday, I would still post my comic online because, frankly, my comic works well on the internet and I would feel bad for charging people to see it. That's my first comic. For my second comic, which I wouldn't mind seeing done by a different artist, I would kill to have Marvel or even DC publish.


They probably wouldn't let you, or you wouldn't have time to do a webcomic on the side.
http://ccs1989.deviantart.com

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Blitz at 11:09AM, April 17, 2006
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I know that when I finally get rolling, Y2K is going to be professional quality within a couple months, mark my words. Even so, I don't really think DD is a place for "amateurs". It's just a webcomics community - of course the number of poorly-done comics is going to greatly exceed the nice ones.

I'll probably always keep a DD mirror.
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Eirikr at 4:00PM, April 21, 2006
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If I went pro, I probably would move onto better sites (Or my own site), but I would post on DrunkDuck as well as the new site. That way, everyone's happy.
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sandy at 9:43PM, May 16, 2006
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Blitz
I know that when I finally get rolling, Y2K is going to be professional quality within a couple months, mark my words. Even so, I don't really think DD is a place for "amateurs". It's just a webcomics community - of course the number of poorly-done comics is going to greatly exceed the nice ones.

I'll probably always keep a DD mirror.


I think it looks okay, the colors could use some more shadow and highlighting, to bring more dimension into the work. And it would help to see some stuff with manuscript in it. Even perhaps a storyline would suffice.

For me, I am going to publish independently come the end of the summer. I've got more work to do, including the front cover of the book. I did one but I wasn't too happy about it so I redid everything including the front cover logo which I like much better now. Black and white is the only thing I'm allowed to print in but I do intend to go full color in another year or so. *Expense of printing. Ouch.* But I do work with colors a lot better than black and whites. Ozone even said it, and she's right.
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