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The Worst Looking Wii Game Ever.
Terminal at 1:17PM, Aug. 23, 2007
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All of us know that the Wii isn't a graphic powerhouse.

This image seriously makes me wonder if Midway is really going to release this, much less call it a game. The game in the above screenshot is from Cruis'n, you know, those old arcade racing games that are long forgotten now but were fun on the N64. Apparently, Cruis'n is getting a sequel that will be exclusively on the Nintendo Wii.

I always loved the Cruis'n series, but this, this is just embarrassing.
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marine at 1:44PM, Aug. 23, 2007
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Spider-man 3 on the Wii

Spider-man 3 on xbox 360


Its lot more of a gap, similar like comparing a sega/snes game to a nes game back in the day.

Its like all the wii has is its gimmick.
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fern at 2:31PM, Aug. 23, 2007
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EA tends to usually focus their concentration on 1 particular system, at least it has with Madden 2008 when it comes to system versions .

And Midway is Midway... I'm surprised they haven't announced bankruptcy but as for the long run of the Wii... I'm not worried since Nintendo will continue its dedication to preserving and bringing their classic characters such as Samus in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and its glorious 60 FPS and 480p resolution.

It's a start... Right?
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isukun at 6:37AM, Aug. 24, 2007
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480p is hardly glorious in this day and age. Also, moving towards more FPS friendly controls while stripping the game of any sort of multiplayer component is not what I would consider to be a good move. The new Metroid seems more like a step back to me, but Nintendo's been doing that a lot lately.
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vgman at 7:16AM, Aug. 24, 2007
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Why is every one hating on next generation consoles?

Granted, the graphics for the wii (or at least that game) are horrible but thats what you get for not putting out enough money for an Xbox 360 or a PS3. In any case I hate raceing games (and pretty much games of any sport) so this dosent bother me.
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Hawk at 8:28AM, Aug. 24, 2007
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People who really let poor graphics bother them will probably just have to settle on the idea that the Wii isn't for them. I plan to get a Wii and then one of the other two consoles (probably Xbox360) so that I can get the good graphics AND my Nintendo favorites.
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Inkmonkey at 8:36AM, Aug. 24, 2007
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The truth of the matter is that it's entirely possible to make a very good looking game on the Wii, granted the programmers work with its limitations, instead of programming the game like any other. The biggest problem is going to come from multi-platform games, where the resolution is simply "dropped" when transferring to the weaker system, instead of tweaking the graphics to optimize its performance. Personally, I think Nintendo was correct in prioritizing keeping costs per system down and focusing on gameplay potential over graphical strength. Does it mean ass-ugly games down the line? Sure. But let us not forget the lesson of Katamari Damacy: you don't need high-end graphics to deliver a great gameplay experience.

The nice thing about the graphical differences is that it will help you to keep track of which companies actually give a damn about their products. A game that looks like crap is probably going to play like crap, but a game that is graphically unimpressive but still looks good is more likely to deliver a solid gameplay experience (or at least one that the developers spent some amount of time on).
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strong414bad at 4:51PM, Aug. 24, 2007
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I never really worried about the graphics. A great game with bad graphics is still a great game, and a horrible game with great graphics is still a horrible game. Sure, it's nicer to have better graphics, but it isn't worth paying more to get a 360 or PS3.
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Terminal at 6:23PM, Aug. 24, 2007
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Frankly, I don't care about visuals, but this, this is one of my favorite racing series ever. Granted it wasn't the greatest racing games ever, but they were still fun. It's disappointing to think that Midway is just re-branding an old arcade game (The Fast and The Furious) and releasing this garbage.

They could have atleast tried and made something that takes advantage of what the Wii can do. I wouldn't be surprised if this game fails horribly and has no waggle control.
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Rusty Knight at 8:47PM, Aug. 24, 2007
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The Wii's selling point is the fun factor (Which sadly doesn't carry it). When I buy a PS3, it's worth the 600 dollars, becaues you're paying for a top of the line machine. When I pay for a Wii, I'm paying for something to screw around with. Especially considering the Wii has alot of games that are just 60 dollar minigames...
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Lord Shplane at 1:32PM, Aug. 25, 2007
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I don't really care much about graphics either. The main reason I don't like the Wii is because of whole 'Wiimote' thing. They just make games for the gimmick they've got going, and fail to give a shit about storyline, graphics, etc. (basically anything but the controls, and those are generally annoying anyway). The only Wii game I've played and liked so far is Twilight Princess. I'll probably like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but that's just because you can use the old Gamecube controller to play it.


And if I see one more fucking minigame collection, I'm going to kill someone.
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Eagle at 11:28PM, Aug. 25, 2007
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Those graphics actually make me sick.

Looks like a really old Sim City graphics or something. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with poor graphics. Like I love the old Die Hard games and such and they have terrible graphics.

But yeah, this just looks embarrassing.
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isukun at 4:17AM, Aug. 26, 2007
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The graphics aren't even what bugs me the most about the Wii, it's the lack of processing power. This generation isn't going to be defined by intense graphics. The new systems came out and so far, nothing really sticks out as a major jump from the last generation. What is already making a difference this generation is more immersive worlds due to better physics calculations, more advanced level scripting, and better AI. The Wii can't really deliver any of these things and stands to hold back any multiplatform title.

It also doesn't help that the controller doesn't seem adequately designed for most games. Controls seem either too simple or too complex, with no inbetween.
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nrbonner at 7:34PM, Aug. 28, 2007
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people don't buy the wii for graphics they buy it for the kind of gameplay only wii has. besides the wii isn't really focused on really-hardcore gamers (even if all of the people at Nintendo say it is). it started strong but it has done hardly nothing since its launch. (It's the same for the PS3. The PS3's only really good game is Resistance.) the Wii is just like a GC with special features.

i happen to be one of the fans who waited in line on launch day for the wii, and happen to be disappointed with it. i just bought a Xbox 360 (elite) about 2 weeks ago (and am loving it,) but i still like the wii. over all all of the next-gen systems have done pretty poorly in delivering many good games. but if anyone plans to get next gen systems get a 360 and wii because its about the same price as a ps3 (its a little more than a ps3 since the price drop) that way you can get both good games on the wii and the 360 without losing graphics or the classic series from nintendo (and you get the best online multiplayer to boot)
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isukun at 4:11AM, Aug. 29, 2007
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I don't find the "gameplay" to be all that unique. The controls are gimmicky, sure, but about 90% of the time, that's not a positive thing on Wii games, particularly since motion sensitive control seems to be so spotty most of the time. The actual gameplay isn't all that different in most games and the design on the controllers often makes things more difficult than they need to be (making games actually less fun).

I don't find any of the systems offering much in the way of good games. The only thing I've had the desire to play extensively on the 360 is Earth Defense Force 2017 (surprisingly addicting for a budget title). Beyond that, though, they're stable of supposedly AAA titles have been pretty boring. I also have to admit that this holiday season, I'll probably be filling out my PS3 collection more than my 360 collection. Several games are coming out that are either exclusive or just better on the PS3 (or at least come with better extras). As for the Wii, they have a pretty weak showing this season. Just Mario and Smash Brothers and I'll probably pass on both. I haven't liked Mario since it went 3D and I absolutely hate it when developers dumb down fighting games, so I'll be waiting on Smash Brothers until I either get a chance to try it out on someone else's machine or I get some reliable opinions from people I know outside the game news media.
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Poke Alster at 11:45AM, Sept. 19, 2007
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I agree wii graphics arent great, but most games are good
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Puff_Of_Smoke at 3:58PM, Sept. 23, 2007
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Super Smash Brothers Brawl... that's gonna be a great game... for the wii...

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption... Not as good as Metroid Prime 1 but it's still fun...

Wario Ware for the wii is good aswell...

Cooking Mama was fun too:P

...Brain Age wii degree is fun...

Super Mario Galaxy is most likely to be a fun game...

Pokemon Battle Revolution... that's fun.

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It just goes to show that any nintendo game that has no characters in super smash bros. will suck.
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Terminal at 4:19PM, Sept. 23, 2007
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It just goes to show that any nintendo game that has no characters in super smash bros. will suck.


Explain Scarface and Farcry.

Sucky games suck because of their developer, not because it's not nintendo.
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Puff_Of_Smoke at 7:54PM, Sept. 23, 2007
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It just goes to show that any nintendo game that has no characters in super smash bros. will suck.


Explain Scarface and Farcry.

Sucky games suck because of their developer, not because it's not nintendo.


what? no! I didn't mean nintendo sucked! they're awesome! but I hardly ever see any good non-nintendo-character-related games...
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isukun at 12:46AM, Sept. 24, 2007
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Recently, I've been seeing a lot of lackluster nintendo character-related games.
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Kohdok at 6:37AM, Sept. 24, 2007
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Recently, I've been seeing a lot of lackluster nintendo character-related games.


Yeah, and we all know how Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, and Jak and Daxter are all doing well these days .

Yeah, one thing I noticed about the Spiderman images is the Wii one has Spiderman hovering high above the city, where the 360 image is really close. Of course resolution is going to drop when rendering buildings from several hundred feet away rather than about 20 feet away (relatively) Get me two images of the same place, then we'll talk.
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isukun at 4:15PM, Sept. 24, 2007
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Yeah, and we all know how Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, and Jak and Daxter are all doing well these days


So, if other people make bad games that makes it okay?
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8BitLegend at 1:18PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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Escape from Bug Island, easily.

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marine at 10:27PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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It just goes to show that any nintendo game that has no characters in super smash bros. will suck.


Explain Scarface



I liked the xbox version. Decent GTA game with money making. Who doesn't love making money? And you get to kill CHEECH. And the taunt button can cause bursts of laughter. Not a 5/5 game by FAR, but still a fun game. Who didn't think GTA Vice City would've been cooler with Scarface in it? If only the rockstar guys had developed this one, it could've been as good as The Warriors or some of their other games.
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Priest_Revan at 10:55AM, Oct. 3, 2007
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1. Yes, those graphics for that game are horrid (yes, terrible).
2. I highly doubt that's what the game is going to look like in the end (and if it does look like that by the end, then lets just be happy that Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid, and SSBB look a lot better than that).
3. Why do graphics really matter that much. I mean, yeah, graphics are nice to have, but I can still go back and play the first Mario Kart and be more than happy. Graphics are only one part of the game, and if we based any game on graphics alone, then a lot of really good games would never be played (look at the good monster hunter for the PS2. The graphics weren't great, but the game was good).
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Gordon CSA at 7:48PM, Oct. 3, 2007
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I don't mind the dumbed down fighter-ness of SSB, its its own genre really.
What I can't imagine is how they're gonna adapt the controller to the game. Motion sensing seems pretty useless for 2d games in general, unless its a lot more unique, like that Loco Roco.

Also I don't think the controller really helps for 'immersion' in games like metroid. When your holding this plastic chunk and waving it around, it really feels more 'wow this isn't real' than if my brain is just feeding controls right into the controller through my thumbs. ;) For me at least.
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isukun at 2:44AM, Oct. 4, 2007
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I don't mind the dumbed down fighter-ness of SSB, its its own genre really.


I'm not speaking of the series in general, just Brawl.
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Hawk at 10:33AM, Oct. 4, 2007
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How is Brawl more dumbed-down than previous installments?
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Rich at 11:24AM, Oct. 4, 2007
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3. Why do graphics really matter that much.


They do matter in the way that we expect things to at least reach a certain standard. Usually when graphics utterly fail to even meet the very low standards of the usual console generation, it shows laziness, which often infests the entirety of the game, not JUST the graphics.

After all, beauty may only be skin deep, but ugly goes clear to the bone.
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isukun at 8:16AM, Oct. 5, 2007
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How is Brawl more dumbed-down than previous installments?


Dumbed down controls, more items which seem to be designed specifically to throw game balance out the window. It's mostly the controls I have an issue with, though.
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