SteveMyers22
And the results of my experiment?

People, even the outraged ones that MADE THREADS about the topic (which of course I gave 1-star rankings to!), still didn't use the ranking system.

Yeah, sometimes gaming forums can get rather dull. Thank you for reading my ramblings.

Great ramblings! Now we know who to finger if the bandit strikes again!

blntmaker
The DD community isn't THAT vindictive. Is it? IS IT?!?!?!

This is the internet, which brings out the most evil aspects of people. If you tell someone off, they get mad at you, then you have to retaliate. Its the same thing with gangbangers, if you kill one theres, they have to come back and kill two of yours, which just escalates things to the point of no one knowing why you're even fighting.

Of course, I don't forget anything (I write important things down) so I've held grudges against people for years. A guy thought he was better than me when he got a reservation at darcia's and I couldn't. I decided it was a bad idea to have enemies, and so I decided to dance for him.

The rating no longer determines rank?????

Why didn't someone tell me this sooner? From now on I can rate honestly, without fear of reprisal "1" attacks!

I don't think a one to five rating has enough variation to properly judge a comic. When I first started on Drunk Duck I'd rate comics I liked at a "4" if I thought it could be improved. But admitedly I think there is a certain conotation that "4" tends to have: namely "It's OK but I didn't care for it."

marine

I just love the clip! Right before the guy hacks Jared Leto to death...AMERICAN PSYCHO! Christian Bale was great - glad Leonardo DiCaprio turned down the role!

I think we should take out 2, 3, and 4 altogether. Alot of people just use those numbers when they want to be an ass. For those who truely use them to give helpful crit... well, we all know how well that works.

Deny all you'd like, but we all know that right now it's:
5 - it's good
1 - I hate it
or
2/3/4 - I like nitpicking

The 1 through 5 scale works... in an ideal internet. Personally I think a 1 to 3 scale would be better.

hat
The 1 through 5 scale works... in an ideal internet. Personally I think a 1 to 3 scale would be better.

There's really no need for a luke warm in-between number. If you don't like or dislike, then why rate? And why numbers at all? Why so many too much thought. What's the point? Having taught classes, I hate grading. I'm not going to sit around pondering over a proper "grade," which itself is subject to the whims of the populous (where some view a 4 as "great but not perfect" and others view it as "you suck, but I'm being polite" ). It's meaningless.

If you want some way to gauge quality, a simple thumbs up vs. thumbs down (or like/dislike) would be effective. And less degrading for the artists too. The less values you have, the less "stinging" the lowest rating is. And if they aren't numbers, it feels less like a "grade" and more like personal opinion.

If nothing else, ratings should have an even number of responses (2 or 4 or 6 -- though more is worse, IMO). "Center" numbers are useless in a true (and voluntary) system. They mean "I didn't feel one way or the other about this." And if you don't care, why rate it at all?

hat
I think we should take out 2, 3, and 4 altogether. Alot of people just use those numbers when they want to be an ass. For those who truely use them to give helpful crit... well, we all know how well that works.

Deny all you'd like, but we all know that right now it's:
5 - it's good
1 - I hate it
or
2/3/4 - I like nitpicking

The 1 through 5 scale works... in an ideal internet. Personally I think a 1 to 3 scale would be better.

Great point! You either love it or hate it. FIVE is used because...well..it just sounds so damn official. Kind of like on a scale of 1-10 - the whole FIVE STARS is just perfection...or an overall thumbs up!

I like the "someone once gave me a 3" stories on here...Anyone else have a "2/3/4" story?

Not personally, but I've seen plenty of times when a well made comic that usually gets alot of praise gets a 4 for "misspelling 'because'", which is insane because that same rater will go to a crappy comic and give it a 5. It happens all the time, they target comics that are popular or that they know is well made, then they just tear the page apart sniping out small things that really don't matter. They go to your page looking only for mistakes so they have an excuse to give less than a 5.

I'll have a rant:
Rating systems suck. They're a BAD idea. People rarely rate on "quality" anyway. What you get happening on comics, or news items, or movies, or whatever has a ratings system, is "fans". These fans actively try and rate what they like UP and what they don't like down. Or even what they perceive as "competing" with what they like.

At DD almost no one rates a 5 because they're afraid of being sniped if they rate someone lower. That happened a little bit initially, but most people do it because everyone else does it and they think that's what you're supposed to do (as I've said). Which doesn't matter either way.

Only an idiot rates 5 because they think they'll be sniped. If you're doing that, you're a tool. Sorry to tell you that, but you are.

Rant over...

Well guys (2 posters above me), none of that matters now because ratings no longer determine rank, right?

So I can give 1's and 2's where-ever I want, honestly. If the author gets hissy and comes to my comic just to post 1's on every page, well then THANKS! you just boosted my comic by visiting every page! I won't give low marks unless I was ready to give a critiquing lecture, though.

Even if somebody honestly doesn't like your stuff and gives you 1's, he's still boosting your comic for every 1 he gave you, like everyone else. And other ppl who liked your stuff will return regardless of how many 1's are posted.

I rate a 5 all the time because I only comment when I really like something. Even when I want to offer a suggestion about something that could be done better or differently in my opinion, the comic as a whole has already won me over 100% in order for me to take the time to sit down and think of ways to improve it. So I rate a 5 because those who get it have earned it- I have enjoyed something thoroughly and I feel it deserves my attention.

So it's basically the reason why I have never given a 1 or a 2-3-4 ;)

I've only gotten one 4 among all the fives, and I didn't really understand what I was to improve, but the person didn't answer back. She was (I think it was a 'she') quite nice in her comment though, so that's fine :) It does sort of stick out unpleasantly though, i must admit.

A five always helps you push on, whether there's criticism in the comment or not. It shows the commenter wants to help, not rant. Which may be unfortunate that the rating below five is not received objectively, but the way things stand at the moment, I doubt it would easily ever be.

That certainly makes me feel proud of Modern Day Witchdoctor, Tantz :)


I'm kinda the same way, I either leave a five or a nothing, thats how I roll.

I all be throwin off the numbers on hotornot.com

So I can give 1's and 2's where-ever I want, honestly. If the author gets hissy and comes to my comic just to post 1's on every page, well then THANKS! you just boosted my comic by visiting every page!

Trust me you don't want that. It would probably get out of hand and start a huge flame war, and people would visit for the fighting, not the art. That's assuming you like people visiting for your art.

boosting your comic

So if I came and gave your comic a 1, I'd "boost" your comic? You lost me there, how does that work? If you're talking about pageviews, I think it's one pageview per person a day no matter how many pages (not 100% sure, but it appears that way). I'd consider it spam if they did it on every page, especially if they bring along their friends to 1 you as well. You could have an admin remove the comments, but I don't want a bunch of white boxes on my page.

At DD almost no one rates a 5 because they're afraid of being sniped if they rate someone lower. That happened a little bit initially, but most people do it because everyone else does it and they think that's what you're supposed to do (as I've said). Which doesn't matter either way.

I agree, I think of it as common courtesy, like leaving tips. So why leave a less-than-5 and at generate some negative energy to the page? Which is also why I thought a 1-3 rank would be better (or even just 1-2).

1. There wouldn't be a flame war because I wouldn't waste the time and energy fighting over something which does not affect ranking. Gave me a 1? Fine, let me read your comment. Comment is inane or outright trolling? Ignored, no response necessary.

2. It boosts my comic because he (and his friends) just gave me a page view. But I wouldn't consider such page views worth my time so it's not as if I'm gonna go out and seed 1's all over in hopes of generating such views.

3. To me, a 5 is a really great comic. Something I can't really find fault with using my meagre critiquing senses. For example, stuff by Iowabarbiedoll. So most comics on DD would get a 4 from me. I'd give myself a 4 on most of my pages.

Now that numbers don't affect rank anymore, ppl should really loosen up and take numbers for what they are. See it as a summary of what the reader's reaction is. There's no inherently nasty intentions behind them because they can't hurt the comic's ranking.

On Silent 5s:

I see silent 5s as a way of commenting when you have nothing to say. Like you want to tell them "Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!eleven!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!! This is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!11!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!!1" ect. But do not want to look like an idiot. Or you want to say simply "Good job", but do not want to look like a jackass who only has the time or attention span for two words. Thus, a silent 5 is a way of telling the creator they did a "good job" or that the comic is "totally awsome" in a more sofficticated way.

Of course this does not apply to the people who are just too lazy to write a real comment or feel they do not have time for it. :P