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The Fourth Wall
Keneticlopx at 9:41AM, Feb. 14, 2009
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so if you were reading a comic and were thinking "hey this is great stuff" and then when suddenly a character breaks the 4th wall think "ah screw that it sucks now" and stop reading? just curious




Kind of but not exactly.
You don't usually have to stop reading, it's just sometimes doing that in a story can, like Sukani said, break the spell of the whole thing.
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Druchii at 7:09AM, Feb. 18, 2009
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I'll never do it just because I don't think it would work for my storyline, and for that matter, so many mediums especially webcomics do it, for good or bad, that I figure I don't need to add my own version into the mix.

That and anyone that types a run on sentence like I just did, doesn't deserve to break the fourth wall. :D
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Keneticlopx at 6:13PM, Feb. 18, 2009
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I do understand that most serious comics wont do it, and it is obvious that only comic STRIPS do it.
But there are some popular comics that break the fourth wall, i guess that's the point i'm trying to make. Comic strips that have been featured and the people actually read break it. I mean, some of them don't break it excessively, but some do. I guess that's what I really mean by "people" breaking it.
Most people do, it's just the unpopular ones we don't know of so it doesn't bother us. But when the popular ones do, then thats the mark...
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lba at 7:50PM, Feb. 18, 2009
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I don't personally have a problem with it, but in most of the Last Words strips I wrote, the characters tended to treat the "camera" as if it were another one of them and the viewer wasn't there but rather just seeing it through that person's eyes. So while they often addressed the viewer, they didn't usually draw attention to the fact that they live in a comic. I never consciously made a choice to avoid obviously saying "it's a comic!", but I kind of did avoid it anyway.

The few comics I did that directly addressed the 4th wall issue usually played on the format of webcomics and how we have to scroll down the page, like this one .

Most of all, I think it's just a matter of writing. Any subject can be crappy if it's written poorly. I think as a result of the nature of the 4th wall, it becomes more obvious when it's poorly written than say if you butchered a joke about chickens and asphalt.
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Keneticlopx at 3:45PM, Feb. 19, 2009
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Yeah, writing, it all depends upon that.
Even If your entire comic is there to break the wall, it can be redemted by good writing.
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Daiconv at 8:39AM, Feb. 20, 2009
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I'm really not too fond of the forth wall being broken. I think it's a cliche of webcomics that's becoming popular. It's like how every cartoon in the 90's would have the characters stop and check their script in the middle of the scene.
without buttcheecks, it's just a hole.
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Drasnus at 9:17AM, Feb. 20, 2009
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You just insulted my comic.


Majorly.


:(
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Daiconv at 10:35AM, Feb. 20, 2009
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You just insulted my comic.


Majorly.


:(


wait, what? I can't tell if you're joking or not, but I wasn't trying to insult anybody, I was just stating my opinion.

It just seems to be a growing trend to literally wink at the audience constantly, and I'm not a fan of that.

Sorry if I offended you. Feel free to point out how ninjas in webcomics are a cliche that is becoming popular.
without buttcheecks, it's just a hole.
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Drasnus at 2:11PM, Feb. 20, 2009
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Drasnus
You just insulted my comic.


Majorly.


:(


wait, what? I can't tell if you're joking or not, but I wasn't trying to insult anybody, I was just stating my opinion.

It just seems to be a growing trend to literally wink at the audience constantly, and I'm not a fan of that.

Sorry if I offended you. Feel free to point out how ninjas in webcomics are a cliche that is becoming popular.

Much of the humour in my comic is that the character lives in a comic panel that behaves like a panel but is also a physical structure. I'm constantly making jokes about this.

An example of this.
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Daiconv at 4:46PM, Feb. 20, 2009
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Wait, let me clarify my previous statement:

I'm talking about comics where the main plot is constantly interrupted by the characters breaking the forth wall. I don't like that, especially when it's random and out of place.

...As opposed to your comic where the main plot is that the character is trying to break the forth wall. That's the point of your comic. That's completely different.
without buttcheecks, it's just a hole.
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Hawk at 4:01PM, Feb. 23, 2009
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I don't particularly enjoy 4th-wall-breaking. It's not very funny to me and used way too much. And I don't really plan to use it in my comics.
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Keneticlopx at 6:24PM, Feb. 27, 2009
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My very first comic breaks it, I just noticed that......Hehe, at least it's a funny one :P
And I think my most recent one might have....Hmmm.
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