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kyupol at 4:18PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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Based on my experience doing webcomics, I've often run along the "boring parts". When I mean boring parts, its the stuff that I dont wanna draw... but if I dont do those pages, a later part of the story wont make any sense.

In my case, the boring parts included extra panels/pages for fight scenes and the 'blabla' pages (most of it is dialog).

Any experiences on this?
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usedbooks at 4:28PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I love dialog! I find it fun to write and read. It's a challenge to figure out how to phrase things in a concise, complete, and natural way. My only problem is trying to keep the picture part interesting. It can be kinda tricky, but if you draw people talking while doing something (exercising, cleaning, wrapping gifts, playing video games...) and varying the panels and the focus, it works out nicely. If the "talking" pages (or any others) feel boring, then I know I did a bad job planning the layout and pacing.
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cs3ink at 4:39PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I can honesly say I love drawing everything. I especially like the challenge of making something mundane intriguing. Fight scens are easy (well, at least for me), as are monsters, & scifi. They offer few challenges (though they are fun). Three characters sitting around the base of a tree (the current scene in Broken Things ) chatting about nothing in particular... Now *there's* a challenge!

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mlai at 4:56PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I also think there are no boring parts to draw, if your script and screenplay was thought out.

Rule of thumb: If it was boring for you to draw, then it'll probably be boring for the reader to read.

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Valid Soul at 6:46PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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The most difficult thing for me is the spriting, as it's a long and painful process. Then you have to put in the special effects and all that, which makes for a hassle. It gets better with sound effects and dialog writing, though.
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Priest_Revan at 6:53PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I really hate colouring. It takes forever (well, it feels like forever)...

I also have to always keep the same colour scheme and everything. It's always a lot of uploading and copying and all kinds of crap.
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fern at 7:02PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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The bloring part for me is when I'm done with the page. Hell, the only reason I make comics is so I won't be bored.

By the way - boring should be replaced with bloring.
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keithmccleary at 7:03PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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The boring part? Rendering. (I'm a 3D artist who needs a faster computer.)
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JillyFoo at 7:51PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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Yeah I'm just getting to a boring part in one of my comics...

I don't think it's that boring to draw per say. It's just harder to get the director angles of the scenario in my head as easy as the exciting scenes because I think about the exciting scenes a lot more. Thus plan them more.
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Jonko at 8:42PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I hate drawing cars... CARS, the bane of my existance!!!!! When there's a car and a building in the same panel (I just had one of those) there is usually about a 3 week delay in an update because I'd rather do homework than draw them. Yes, I really hate cars. But at the same time I don't want to give into photographs!! It's my comic it's my work! Ok I made my point.
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marine at 9:05PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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Theres nothing boring in penis. Something happens everyday.

The boring stuff is when I'm doing unfunny stuff or using lame material, but its funny in that its not funny. Or it becomes funny when I get flame e-mails from it.
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DAJB at 11:48PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I'm sure all you clever artist types have seen this before but, when it comes to making dialogue pages visually interesting, there's no better guide than this:

Wally Wood's 22 Panels that Always Work

So, no more excuses for ten pages of talking heads! Other techniques include mixing up the dialogue with action. Either have the characters doing something while they speak or cut two scenes together, one exposition, one action. Both should make those pages more interesting to read and more interesting to draw.

Similar principles apply to fight scenes. If you have three or four consecutive pages in which Character A pummels Character B, why should anybody stop to look at them? Try to include dialogue that advances the story or - if that's not possible - cut back and forth to another scene that does.


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SarahN at 12:41AM, Oct. 2, 2007
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Usually I get bored the most when drawing a bunch of minor characters exchanging dialogue for too long or remaking old pages.
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Gavin at 4:10PM, Oct. 2, 2007
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The boring part for me is scanning everything in and most of the photoshop work.. including lettering. Gah.

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JustNoPoint at 4:40PM, Oct. 2, 2007
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I get bored fast drawing an establishing shot. And backgrounds in general. Just thinking about drawing it bores me =P I just have such little interest in drawing those, unless they are in the process of exploding or something.

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lothar at 6:01PM, Oct. 2, 2007
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i hate the part where i have to erase all the pencil lines and i usually try to do it realy fast and end up sweting all over the paper and crunching it up !!! that part sucks !!! theres no other part i can think of that's boring , maybe waiting for DD to load ..
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mlai at 6:27PM, Oct. 2, 2007
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DAJB, thanks for posting that link. I downloaded that picture for future ref.

Yes even action pages can be boring if nothing seems to be happening. I found that out recently. You don't realize it until you don't update more than 1 page every 2 days.

FIGHT current chapter: Filling In The Gaps
FIGHT_2 current chapter: Light Years of Gold
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marine at 4:21AM, Oct. 3, 2007
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I also snatched the 22 panel layouts for future reference.
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spacehamster at 7:00AM, Oct. 3, 2007
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I love writing dialogue, but I hate drawing long dialogue-only sequences. A good way to get around this is to always try and have your characters do something while they're talking, but it's still a dialogue sequence. Either way, though, I get a great sense of satisfaction out of completing them because they're part of the story, after all, and comics is a storytelling medium. If I just wanted to draw pinup scenes... I'd do that.
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Darth Mongoose at 3:54PM, Oct. 3, 2007
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I always think that fight scenes will be the most fun to draw, but they're often not. The unconventional bits of fights, like when the character does something totally weird, those are fun. Dialogue is great fun! Exposition not so much, but I love drawing stuff like Sarin and Juliet arguing, it's like doing a fight scene but there's no contact, it's all space, expressions, eye contact and body language.
One of the most exciting and challenging pages I've ever done was probably page 1 of chapter 5.

http://www.drunkduck.com/FanDanGo/index.php?p=203394

I mean, it's actually, in essence, just a lady on the phone! I spent ages designing the house, researching old rotary telephones, and I put in some techniques I've really only just started to get the hang of, like depth contrast. Drawing the Telephone panel was actually really fun to do! Hahahaha!

Pages don't have to be boring. You have to try to make them interesting. Even if they are 'blah blah' pages.
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Exzachly at 4:53PM, Oct. 3, 2007
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For me pretty much all drawing is the boring part. The LPC style is not a fun one to draw in...
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Gavin at 5:42PM, Oct. 3, 2007
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lothar
i hate the part where i have to erase all the pencil lines and i usually try to do it realy fast and end up sweting all over the paper and crunching it up !!! that part sucks !!! theres no other part i can think of that's boring , maybe waiting for DD to load ..


I had this problem for a while. I'd say work with thicker paper, and turn on the air conditioning when you draw.

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angry_black_guy at 10:46PM, Oct. 3, 2007
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i hate the part where i have to erase all the pencil lines and i usually try to do it realy fast and end up sweting all over the paper and crunching it up !!! that part sucks !!! theres no other part i can think of that's boring , maybe waiting for DD to load ..


scotch tape is the saviour of the hand drawn world :D

I enjoy action just as much as dialog. Whenever I get bored, I try to do little fun things in my panels like add little side comments or draw small details in the background. I noticed when I occupy myself with something completel random, I usually have more fun.

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dueeast at 10:15AM, Oct. 4, 2007
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I have such mixed feelings about "the boring parts," because that's usually where the necessarily transitions between scenes or the build up of relevant information or character interaction for a later scene.

On the one hand, I love getting to the main point of the scene or the story, especially if it's something that's been building for a while or something I've really been looking forward to showing/exploring. On the other hand, once you get there, it's not always going to be the end of the book/chapter right there. There's somewhere to go with the story but it may not be quite as exciting as what you'd just finished drawing.

For example, I had been looking forward to a scene where Doug visits his daughter, Sapphira, unaware that she and her old friend, Lindsay, stayed up partying and are hungover messes. He arrives, misunderstandings happen between him and Lindsay and it's a pretty hilarious 4-page scene. But once that was done, we still had 5 pages to go to get to the conclusion of Book Three.

I had to take a couple of days and readjust my brain to wrap around the two upcoming scenes which ended up merging into the final scene which cliffhangered (did I just coin a phrase again?) the book. I wasn't as excited about it as the previous scene but it was so important that I just turned it into a challenge and made my way through it.

It all depends on how you handle it, I suppose. :)
Allen S., co-author/artist
Due East

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