I always thought Eunice is an androgynous guy name. It's a girl name?
It sounds exactly like the kind of wimpy name a bespectacled nerdy little boy would have. Name like that attracts bullies like flies to ripe bananas.
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mlai
at 1:42PM, April 24, 2007
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KC3Tlifevirus
at 2:38PM, April 24, 2007
I won't lie. Eunice reminds me of a guy name. I also thought you were a guy because of one of your I Come From Mars characters you had for your avatar long ago, I believe.
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mlai
at 3:53PM, April 24, 2007
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deletedbyrequest03
at 6:14PM, April 24, 2007
EDITED: Ouch, yeah, I was wrong. Ooops. Eunice P's not a guy. Sorry about that.
Girl's manga:
Boy's manga:
lol :D
Girl's manga:
Boy's manga:
lol :D
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KC3Tlifevirus
at 6:34PM, April 24, 2007
Oddly enough, that's ridiculously true. For manga, anyway. You probably hit every major trend there is in that genre.
Yep, I'm a guy. I assume you saw my sig. And thank you for the comment. =)
I've had this same message in my sig for about a year, actually. Yet, over the months, it's interesting how there were always a handful of people who still managed to think I was female.
mlai
OH NOES!! KC3T is male!!!
But your avatar is so cute~~! :D
Yep, I'm a guy. I assume you saw my sig. And thank you for the comment. =)
I've had this same message in my sig for about a year, actually. Yet, over the months, it's interesting how there were always a handful of people who still managed to think I was female.
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ozoneocean
at 11:55PM, April 24, 2007
DancingChaosBuuuut she's NOT! lol!
I always knew Eunice P was a guy. It just said it in his art. This is becaaauuuuse...
She has you fooled with her style. Unlike some others (who I won't name), she is a genuine teraific female heartist who works at forming beautiful art pieces ;) ;)
Indeed I think many of us could say this: I <3 Eunice :)
I'm sure SpANG would agree with me at least.
Besides, Eunice is quite an old traditional English girl's name, none of you know that???? (Eunice.P isn't an English person though)
Perhaps you're thinking of "Eustace", as in "Eustace Scrubbs" who appears in CS Lewis's Narnia books? (the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, The Silver Chair, The Last Battle...). That's a boy's name!
-the "E" is silent... The names are pronounced You-Niece and You-Stuss respectively ;)
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deletedbyrequest03
at 2:18PM, April 25, 2007
ozoneoceanDancingChaosBuuuut she's NOT! lol!
I always knew Eunice P was a guy. It just said it in his art. This is becaaauuuuse...
She has you fooled with her style. Unlike some others (who I won't name), she is a genuine teraific female heartist who works at forming beautiful art pieces ;) ;)
Indeed I think many of us could say this: I <3 Eunice :)
I'm sure SpANG would agree with me at least.
Besides, Eunice is quite an old traditional English girl's name, none of you know that???? (Eunice.P isn't an English person though)
Perhaps you're thinking of "Eustace", as in "Eustace Scrubbs" who appears in CS Lewis's Narnia books? (the Voyage of the Dawn Treader, The Silver Chair, The Last Battle...). That's a boy's name!
-the "E" is silent... The names are pronounced You-Niece and You-Stuss respectively ;)
I know. I was wrong. I admit my mistake :)
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Eunice P
at 9:47PM, April 26, 2007
Funny indeed. DC mentioned most of the stuffs I drew under boy's manga. X3 That proves I'm a guy. lol!
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ConroyConroy
at 10:06PM, April 26, 2007
Like many have said before me, "This isn't always the case" But it seems to me that most womens artwork/comics are all caught up in the figures and the "prettiness" of drawing. Men are more gritty and energetic in their artwork. Women seem to produce the more quiet and pretty and (I don't know how else to put this)kinda plain artwork, and a slower paced storyline. There are lots of exceptions, especially from what I've seen on DD. But I've scoured the web for a while, and I can usually pick out the females right away no matter how masculine a point of view they take.
Guys are usually faster paced in thier stories, and thier artwork is super loud and exciting and just awesomely gritty and bold.
I think character developement is generally even for both men and women, I think that just goes down to personality and interest. I can't say that women are more interested in character developement than men or visa versa. But I have noticed that men usually have less character developement (AGAIN, not always the case!!!) with their female characters. And ladies usually make their male lead characters the ideal(sometimes almost unrealistically ideal) in what they believe great/interesting men should be like.
That just the tip of the iceberg on how I usually figure out whether they're men or women. I guess that just goes to show you how hard it is to tell for me.
I've greatly generalized here, but I'm usually spot on when it comes to figuring it out.
Guys are usually faster paced in thier stories, and thier artwork is super loud and exciting and just awesomely gritty and bold.
I think character developement is generally even for both men and women, I think that just goes down to personality and interest. I can't say that women are more interested in character developement than men or visa versa. But I have noticed that men usually have less character developement (AGAIN, not always the case!!!) with their female characters. And ladies usually make their male lead characters the ideal(sometimes almost unrealistically ideal) in what they believe great/interesting men should be like.
That just the tip of the iceberg on how I usually figure out whether they're men or women. I guess that just goes to show you how hard it is to tell for me.
I've greatly generalized here, but I'm usually spot on when it comes to figuring it out.
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chaosgoat
at 3:55AM, April 27, 2007
When I first started at this one art forum, posting my work for critique, no one knew what gender I was. It took months (and me telling someone) for everyone to realize which gender I was.
I don't think you can tell someone's gender by their art. I say gender, rather than sex, because that is a personal identification rather than a biological term. Unless the artist is creating gender-specific works (like Judy Chicago or Frida Kahlo), you really can't judge either way.
I don't think you can tell someone's gender by their art. I say gender, rather than sex, because that is a personal identification rather than a biological term. Unless the artist is creating gender-specific works (like Judy Chicago or Frida Kahlo), you really can't judge either way.
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mlai
at 12:28PM, April 27, 2007
Juno Blair draws really nice cars. Like Gunsmith-Cats-level nice cars. It's rare for women to draw nice cars. Moving at 80 mph.
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deletedbyrequest03
at 2:04PM, April 27, 2007
Eunice P
Funny indeed. DC mentioned most of the stuffs I drew under boy's manga. X3 That proves I'm a guy. lol!
Sorry, sorry lol!
Yay! We have a "we're girls but no one believes us" club!!!
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Evil_Snuffkin
at 6:05PM, April 27, 2007
I think you're more likely to be able to tell an artist's gender by their story rather than art style but even that can be pretty uncertain.
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Red Slayer
at 7:31PM, April 27, 2007
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KC3Tlifevirus
at 10:38PM, April 27, 2007
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patrickdevine
at 2:46PM, May 4, 2007
Generally I would say no, though sometimes there's tell-tales here and there that give me a good guess. Typically when I see a female character with impossibly big jubblies "guy" is usually my first guess. When I see characters with detailled, shiny hair "girl" is my first guess. I'm right sometimes but there's times when I'm wrong too. Lot's of people get it wrong... some more polite than others. I read an interview with a female comic artist where she said somebody told her "Wow, I didn't know a girl drew this... it's actually good!"
She told him, "Fuck you very much."
I just wish I could remember the name of that artist because she seems cool!
She told him, "Fuck you very much."
I just wish I could remember the name of that artist because she seems cool!
http://www.iprc.org [iprc.org]
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CharleyHorse
at 7:53AM, May 6, 2007
I can always detect the artist's gender from the artwork, and I have a fifty percent success rate to prove it.
Ouch!
Okay, so most of the time I can't tell gender from the artwork itself - though sometimes it is fairly obvious. Usually, however, I can pinpoint gender from the writing style. I just can't put my finger on precisely how I make this distinction through these writing samples.
To resort to stereotype, however; when we look at the soap-opera style toons and strips it usually reveals the approaches as either the touchy-feely and relationship intense on the emotive scale thingy versus the angst-ridden, woe-is-me, harsh or unhappy solutions results. Heh-heh, I'll leave it up to you to decide which gender - in my estimation - most often embraces which stereotype approach to sequential art storytelling.
I ain't telling!
Charleyhorse
Ouch!
Okay, so most of the time I can't tell gender from the artwork itself - though sometimes it is fairly obvious. Usually, however, I can pinpoint gender from the writing style. I just can't put my finger on precisely how I make this distinction through these writing samples.
To resort to stereotype, however; when we look at the soap-opera style toons and strips it usually reveals the approaches as either the touchy-feely and relationship intense on the emotive scale thingy versus the angst-ridden, woe-is-me, harsh or unhappy solutions results. Heh-heh, I'll leave it up to you to decide which gender - in my estimation - most often embraces which stereotype approach to sequential art storytelling.
I ain't telling!
Charleyhorse
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Juliechan
at 4:17PM, May 6, 2007
I'd say a good nine times out of ten you CAN tell...^^;; I know some people who you can't but....if nothing else I can judge just by how they draw women.
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kyupol
at 9:31PM, May 7, 2007
I almost passed off as a girl.
Yeah. I could be part of the sex sting ops with me pretending to be an underage chick... and then boom! Pedofiles go behind bars. lol
Yeah. I could be part of the sex sting ops with me pretending to be an underage chick... and then boom! Pedofiles go behind bars. lol
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deletedbyrequest03
at 8:32PM, May 8, 2007
Yeah, storyline does it, too. For most manga on DD, I could tell if a guy or a girl did them. And people still think I'm a guy XD Is my storyline guyish?
I think a girly storyline revolves around love, hawt men action, cutsie chibi magical girl, the whole "I once fell in love but everything messed up so now I'm in pain" sort of deal, all men a ass-holes, the main character must disguise him/herself as the opposite gender to join a camp/university/school/anything that has any (apparent) significance whatsoever, and I'm damn adorable and there's nothing you can do about it.
Also, if the main character's a female and their not ditsy femme (and their boobs don't shoot out like rocket launchers), a girl most likely made it.
Guy storylines revolve around complete random BS comedy, sexy females, sometimes female action (but I don't see it as much as Yaoi), violence with little storyline (DBZ lol), "my life sucks and all the chicks hate me", "my life sucks and I live in a house full of chicks which include the genius girl, the insane girl, the hawt girl, the kiddy girl, the girl that likes me, and the girl that likes to beat me up" (which represents about 43289473 different anime like that), the fantasy which makes the main character(s) look for an item which everyone is interested in so they can beat the shit out of each other until one of them has it, and the D&D arrangement of warriors (warrior, thief, mage, ranger, etc).
Well, that's just the majority. If you can come up with something else, I'm proud of you.
I think a girly storyline revolves around love, hawt men action, cutsie chibi magical girl, the whole "I once fell in love but everything messed up so now I'm in pain" sort of deal, all men a ass-holes, the main character must disguise him/herself as the opposite gender to join a camp/university/school/anything that has any (apparent) significance whatsoever, and I'm damn adorable and there's nothing you can do about it.
Also, if the main character's a female and their not ditsy femme (and their boobs don't shoot out like rocket launchers), a girl most likely made it.
Guy storylines revolve around complete random BS comedy, sexy females, sometimes female action (but I don't see it as much as Yaoi), violence with little storyline (DBZ lol), "my life sucks and all the chicks hate me", "my life sucks and I live in a house full of chicks which include the genius girl, the insane girl, the hawt girl, the kiddy girl, the girl that likes me, and the girl that likes to beat me up" (which represents about 43289473 different anime like that), the fantasy which makes the main character(s) look for an item which everyone is interested in so they can beat the shit out of each other until one of them has it, and the D&D arrangement of warriors (warrior, thief, mage, ranger, etc).
Well, that's just the majority. If you can come up with something else, I'm proud of you.
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DamitaPerez
at 1:21PM, May 20, 2007
I beleive it's sort of based off the same way as writing. According to studies girls write with less sharp edges on their letter where as guys make very defined edges. Hard to explain... But I think the same goes for art as well. All of my guy friends draw rather pointed faces and bodies whereas my girl friends all draw rather vuluptuosly. (Sorry. Can't spell.)
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Neilak20
at 1:49PM, May 20, 2007
Eunice P
Funny indeed. DC mentioned most of the stuffs I drew under boy's manga. X3 That proves I'm a guy. lol!
I thought you were a girl when I first read your comic, then I got it in my head somewheres that you were a guy, and Now I'm back to thinking you're a girl. I'm confused, but I still like your comics ^_^;
People mistake me for a guy sometimes ~_~;
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dueeast
at 10:38AM, May 25, 2007
I wonder if Due East confuses anyone in the gender sense, about the artist/author, etc.-?
I personally think I draw females better than males, mainly because for years I drew more females than males in my superhero comics. For many moons, I got along with women much better than men, in friendships and life in general. And I think that clearly influenced my art style. So does that mean some people would mistake me for female? That and the fact that every other frame is not bloodshed and action...or gratuitous innuendo shots.
I do get a lot of input from my wife, as she is the co-writer, so that could add to the confusion.
Then again, my comments on each page are not exactly "girly" stuff, so that might give it away that I'm male.
In the end, this just ends up being a shameless plug, doesn't it? ;)
I personally think I draw females better than males, mainly because for years I drew more females than males in my superhero comics. For many moons, I got along with women much better than men, in friendships and life in general. And I think that clearly influenced my art style. So does that mean some people would mistake me for female? That and the fact that every other frame is not bloodshed and action...or gratuitous innuendo shots.
I do get a lot of input from my wife, as she is the co-writer, so that could add to the confusion.
Then again, my comments on each page are not exactly "girly" stuff, so that might give it away that I'm male.
In the end, this just ends up being a shameless plug, doesn't it? ;)
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iowabarbidoll
at 9:28PM, June 2, 2007
I used to be disappointed in myself if someone said I drew 'like a girl'. Which is really stupid becuase I AM a girl. I guess I somehow took that to mean that 'you don't draw as good as that dude', which is my own insecurity.
Yeah, I draw like a girl. More romance, less killing and cars, etc. etc... But I don't necessarily agree that women draw more female characters. Yes, I find women easier to draw. But BORING, too. ;-)
I'd much rather draw things like this.
Kind of like Ozone likes drawing Pinky's thong and 'cold weather indicators'. BWHA HA HA!!!
Oh, and this isn't a shameless plug, cause Talismen is DOA.
~B
Yeah, I draw like a girl. More romance, less killing and cars, etc. etc... But I don't necessarily agree that women draw more female characters. Yes, I find women easier to draw. But BORING, too. ;-)
I'd much rather draw things like this.
Kind of like Ozone likes drawing Pinky's thong and 'cold weather indicators'. BWHA HA HA!!!
Oh, and this isn't a shameless plug, cause Talismen is DOA.
~B
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mlai
at 6:52AM, June 3, 2007
I felt your art is like a mix of Archie and Don Bluth. If one had to categorize, then you do draw like a midwestern girl. There's a homey American-Pie feel to your art.
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ozoneocean
at 8:36AM, June 3, 2007
Mlai, you're weird... How can you know you're not getting that for her personality? Because that's a little specific for art alone.
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Terminal
at 10:23AM, June 3, 2007
I've spent my life drawing stuff or replicating artist's styles and not people. (Hey, there's a surprise.) Because of odd nature in all my comics, people confuse me either as a geeky girl or a strange guy. I like to think it's pretty obvious as to what my gender is, but every once in a while, someone does mistake me for the wrong gender.
Eh, matters not. :)
Eh, matters not. :)
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iowabarbidoll
at 10:30AM, June 3, 2007
Ozone- I LURVE your avatar!! MWHA HA HA!! So, you didn't know I was a girl, did you, Aussie dude?
Ha ha ha!
Mlai- ha ha ha!! Would the name "Iowabarbidoll" have anythign to do with your 'midwestern girl' comment? I shoulda called myself "Brooklynguy", I guess.
Thanks for the Don Bluth comment- I always liked his stuff... but Archie? Hmmm....? ^_^
A little down home, homey American pie moment from the Barbi.
~B
Ha ha ha!
Mlai- ha ha ha!! Would the name "Iowabarbidoll" have anythign to do with your 'midwestern girl' comment? I shoulda called myself "Brooklynguy", I guess.
Thanks for the Don Bluth comment- I always liked his stuff... but Archie? Hmmm....? ^_^
A little down home, homey American pie moment from the Barbi.
~B
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mlai
at 11:48AM, June 3, 2007
No, no, I got that from her art alone, not from the name Iowabarbiedoll.
Look at her art in Talismen. It's like... Archie + Elfquest. Without knowing anything about the artists/authors of Archie and Elfquest (and I don't), I'd think both of them are midwestern or southern Americans. I know Elfquest has a female co-artist.
Also, an Iraq War soldier figures heavily in the comic. While these soldiers don't just come from small country towns, their absence is felt much more keenly in said small communities. You won't see some NYC artist care as much about these soldiers tangentially to make him a character in a fantasy comic; either the soldiers aren't there at all, or they'll be used to make a central political statement.
Oh, and we saw a army base neighborhood. NOBODY from metropolitan areas like NYC would think of such a setting, unless for a specific reason.
Her art is so good, it's a little hard to say she's a she, definitively. That, I got from her name.
Of course, she didn't write Talismen(?). But I think she wrote Return of the Exiles(?).
Look at her art in Talismen. It's like... Archie + Elfquest. Without knowing anything about the artists/authors of Archie and Elfquest (and I don't), I'd think both of them are midwestern or southern Americans. I know Elfquest has a female co-artist.
Also, an Iraq War soldier figures heavily in the comic. While these soldiers don't just come from small country towns, their absence is felt much more keenly in said small communities. You won't see some NYC artist care as much about these soldiers tangentially to make him a character in a fantasy comic; either the soldiers aren't there at all, or they'll be used to make a central political statement.
Oh, and we saw a army base neighborhood. NOBODY from metropolitan areas like NYC would think of such a setting, unless for a specific reason.
Her art is so good, it's a little hard to say she's a she, definitively. That, I got from her name.
Of course, she didn't write Talismen(?). But I think she wrote Return of the Exiles(?).
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Anatak
at 1:28AM, June 5, 2007
Speaking of being associated with your avatar, I wonder if people think I'm some kind of psychopath that wanders around with a "face-mask" on all the time, lol....
As far as telling the sex of an individual based on their artwork alone, I'd say in their earlier drawing years when their influences are generally more visible it would be easier to make an educated guess. However, as people's skills increase they will usually develope their own unique style, and will of course get better at drawing people of both sexes with the same quality and level of detail. At that point, I'd say guessing is a waste of time, and damn near impossible. Of course it takes years and years and years to achive that level of skill...
As far as telling the sex of an individual based on their artwork alone, I'd say in their earlier drawing years when their influences are generally more visible it would be easier to make an educated guess. However, as people's skills increase they will usually develope their own unique style, and will of course get better at drawing people of both sexes with the same quality and level of detail. At that point, I'd say guessing is a waste of time, and damn near impossible. Of course it takes years and years and years to achive that level of skill...
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