is it just me or...



does the greater majority of all manga look like Speed racer?

how so?

I don't know.

just sort of all looks like speed racer.

uh, sorry, but I don't think that all manga looks the same that way...

after all, there is varying different styles of drawing and so on forth. can you show a example of an actual manga page where you think it looks like speed racer?

heres one...



then there is this one...


and then, of course...this one

okay, you're just trying to stir up shit. ingoring you now.

Aurora Moon
uh, sorry, but I don't think that all manga looks the same that way...

after all, there is varying different styles of drawing and so on forth. can you show a example of an actual manga page where you think it looks like speed racer?

I didn't say ALL
I said the Greater Majority...
there are a few exceptionally beeautiful cartoons and movies that I have seen, some that I happen to own.

Cowboy Beebop for one is Awesome.

yes, there are infinite art styles.

that is why I remain puzzled by the fact that so many look like speed racer?

Well manga and anime have a set of lose stylistic conventions about stories, character design, expression, emotions, situations etc, so it's inevitable that they all share a lot of traits in common with each other. But that doesn't mean there isn't also a vast amount of variation within manga and anime. The conventions aren't as limiting as they might appear to some observers, they're just quite visible if you look at manga and anime in a purely surface, superficial way.

Most media follows conventions of some sort, they're just not always apparent, and just because they're not immediately as apparent as they are in anime and manga doesn't make them unrestrictive, frequently the opposite is true; Mainstream Hollywood movies are a great example of this! Scratch the surface of any product of creative media and you will find the conventions... It doesn't make them bad, it's just what they have in common, what makes them recognisable as a subset... Look at Shakespeare for example: you can tell exactly what makes a Shakespeare play a Shakespeare play, they're all the same in some respects, but they're still all pretty notable works regardless of any similarities. Renaissance paintings or the works of the impressionists (for example) tend to share similar traits, which is why they're identified together (not just because of sharing a similar time period and location), but again; that doesn't make them bad. You don't look at a Degas painting of a woman in a bath and say "oh my GOD not another bloody Monnet haystack type painting, for f**k's sake, they're all the same!?" lol!

-But you could.

true...you could.

so by that rationale the art reflects the age/time frame in history.?

ozoneocean
Well manga and anime have a set of lose stylistic conventions about stories, character design, expression, emotions, situations etc, so it's inevitable that they all share a lot of traits in common with each other. But that doesn't mean there isn't also a vast amount of variation within manga and anime. The conventions aren't as limiting as they might appear to some observers, they're just quite visible if you look at manga and anime in a purely surface, superficial way.

Most media follows conventions of some sort, they're just not always apparent, and just because they're not immediately as apparent as they are in anime and manga doesn't make them unrestrictive, frequently the opposite is true; Mainstream Hollywood movies are a great example of this! Scratch the surface of any product of creative media and you will find the conventions... It doesn't make them bad, it's just what they have in common, what makes them recognisable as a subset... Look at Shakespeare for example: you can tell exactly what makes a Shakespeare play a Shakespeare play, they're all the same in some respects, but they're still all pretty notable works regardless of any similarities. Renaissance paintings or the works of the impressionists (for example) tend to share similar traits, which is why they're identified together (not just because of sharing a similar time period and location), but again; that doesn't make them bad. You don't look at a Degas painting of a woman in a bath and say "oh my GOD not another bloody Monnet haystack type painting, for f**k's sake, they're all the same!?" lol!

-But you could.

yeah, exactly. a lot of ressiance paintings look the same to me in terms of color, style, etc....even though the subject matter in the pictures are different. yet a lot of them were done by different artists when I take a closer look and try to guess who did what.

yet I won't say the ressiance pieces are dull and uninspired just because on the surface they all look the same.

because under the surface of simlarity, if you take the effort in taking a really good, closer look..... then you realize that each artist has thier own different methods and styles to that "look".

Oh, dear god!

...we are in the Age of Speed Racer!

Art and basically any product of creative media can tend to be catagorised in groups because we as humans like to do that ^_^
And then we make judgments on all based on a few sample reprsetatives of those groups. Again, it's just the human way. I've moved thos to comic discussions.

Why does it seems like this thread is useless?

Speedracer wasn't first though. If anything this is the age of Osamu Tezuka, because Speed Racer came after him, and his style is what all Japanese manga is based off of stylistically.

Also you can trace that back to Disney.

In the end though everything does not look like Speed Racer. Go check out Berserk and Hellsing.

Wow, the age of Speed Racer...
...Wait, wasn't that like, twenty or thirty years ago?
Is it just me, or are all people who think all manga look the same completely unable to tell the difference between manga and anime?
Time for a quick Japanese lesson. Repeat after me, kiddies:
"MANGA MEANS COMICS."
"ANIME MEANS ANIMATION."

Personally as somebody who's been a manga reader a long time, when I first tried to read American superhero comics, I thought they all looked the same. People with little oblong heads, little eyes, square jaws. enormous torsos and wearing skintight everything. Took me some time to get used to the subtle differences between artists and styles, and now I can tell them apart a lot better.
You could easily say 'Is it just me, or are all DC comics Batman?' or, 'Is it just me, or all all newspaper funnies Charlie Brown?' Heck, take it a bit further and I could say, 'Is it just me, or do all Hip Hop songs sound the same?' Of course they don't if you're a fan of that style, because you notice the differences. People from outside my immediate family can't tell mine and my mother's and sister's voices apart on the phone, but my Dad and brother can. It's the same thing with art and music and...well, pretty much anything. The more you understand something, the better you become at noticing small details, an the more the small details matter to you.

So yeah, all anime looks like Speedracer if you're not somebody who regularly watches anime, becaue you look at it and just see big eyes, small noses and soft-featured faces and characters with slim, long-legged physiques. But an anime fan can not only distinquish vstly different styles, say 'Azumanga Daioh' compared to 'Great Teacher Onizuka' but subtley different styles too, like 'Azumanga Daioh' compared to 'Uchuu no Stellvia', because we see subtle differences in eye-shape, the colours chosen, the way characters gesture etc.

go into any book store in Japan and you will see prolly 300 tons of manga ! a lot of it looks similar , sort of , there is definetly a lot of the same kinds of stories going on , but also there is a huge variety of subjects like stories about baseball and golf and office dudes doin office stuff, and one about bees fighting in wars and a whole saga about some dogs doing something !
and btw
SPEED RACER RULZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Speed Racer.

I also like variety...it is the spice of Life.

it is all good.
I especially like the bad engrish translations...

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Darth Mongoose
Wow, the age of Speed Racer...
...Wait, wasn't that like, twenty or thirty years ago?
Is it just me, or are all people who think all manga look the same completely unable to tell the difference between manga and anime?
Time for a quick Japanese lesson. Repeat after me, kiddies:
"MANGA MEANS COMICS."
"ANIME MEANS ANIMATION."

Personally as somebody who's been a manga reader a long time, when I first tried to read American superhero comics, I thought they all looked the same. People with little oblong heads, little eyes, square jaws. enormous torsos and wearing skintight everything. Took me some time to get used to the subtle differences between artists and styles, and now I can tell them apart a lot better.
You could easily say 'Is it just me, or are all DC comics Batman?' or, 'Is it just me, or all all newspaper funnies Charlie Brown?' Heck, take it a bit further and I could say, 'Is it just me, or do all Hip Hop songs sound the same?' Of course they don't if you're a fan of that style, because you notice the differences. People from outside my immediate family can't tell mine and my mother's and sister's voices apart on the phone, but my Dad and brother can. It's the same thing with art and music and...well, pretty much anything. The more you understand something, the better you become at noticing small details, an the more the small details matter to you.

So yeah, all anime looks like Speedracer if you're not somebody who regularly watches anime, becaue you look at it and just see big eyes, small noses and soft-featured faces and characters with slim, long-legged physiques. But an anime fan can not only distinquish vstly different styles, say 'Azumanga Daioh' compared to 'Great Teacher Onizuka' but subtley different styles too, like 'Azumanga Daioh' compared to 'Uchuu no Stellvia', because we see subtle differences in eye-shape, the colours chosen, the way characters gesture etc.

ok ok, all good points.

Save for one...

All hip hop...it really is the same.
they just keep reediting sound samples and dubbing them over the same track.

it is really an International Security project to make Club bunnies into zombies.
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Go Speed Racer.