I'm never going to be able to eat a bagel the same way again after that post...
:P
Debate and Discussion
Sexual Fetishes: "sick" or "normal"
coinilius
at 5:09AM, Jan. 21, 2006
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ccs1989
at 9:57AM, Jan. 21, 2006
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-Henry David Thoreau, Walden
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Mazoo
at 2:13PM, Jan. 21, 2006
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Ian Jay
at 5:17PM, Jan. 21, 2006
Dang it. Bagels were my favorite food. WERE my favorite food.
~IJ
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Linh
at 5:33PM, Jan. 21, 2006
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SpANG
at 8:41PM, Jan. 21, 2006
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blackaby
at 11:33AM, Feb. 13, 2006
Well there are a lot of sexual fetishes to choose from, and some are more normal than others...
For necrophilia, they should really make little cards like they do for organ donors. Just thinking about it, I'm almost tempted to put some clause into my will.
"My French vase collection goes to my little neice Collete, and my body will be donated to that creepy George bloke who always hangs around the cemetery..."
For necrophilia, they should really make little cards like they do for organ donors. Just thinking about it, I'm almost tempted to put some clause into my will.
"My French vase collection goes to my little neice Collete, and my body will be donated to that creepy George bloke who always hangs around the cemetery..."
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magickmaker
at 5:48PM, Feb. 13, 2006
I have a friend (I know when a person says that, they're usually talking about themselves, but I'm not), who is sexually aroused by antique furniture. He does not want to have sex with the furniture, but for god knows what reason, it invokes that reaction in him. Is he a pervert? I don't think so.
(I have have another friend whose aroused by spoons, but she's kinda weird anyway...)
(I have have another friend whose aroused by spoons, but she's kinda weird anyway...)
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blackaby
at 9:34AM, Feb. 14, 2006
...wasn't there that website about that woman who made love to guillotines? And ended up dumping them for the Great Wall of China?
I wish I was kidding.
I wish I was kidding.
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Duhawoah
at 8:46PM, March 8, 2006
Its. basiclly been said like 2o times but yeah... IT would depend on the fetish like someone said breasts is a fetish thats fine. But like the Bondage crap where people are getting raped by horses and beaten with sticks. Thats uh. Sick. (I.E. Snuff )
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Whiskers
at 9:59AM, March 10, 2006
Aurora MoonChameloncholicyeah, which is why I listed the above reasons about the family members caring and minding that you were pretty much violating thier dead loved ones.
Does the body mind? It is after all.. dead. And I think we can pretty much all agree it doesn't care anymore.
But that's an arguement against the family. What if it's some random person that died, and uh, had no family? Then there really wouldn't be an arguement 'n at, y'know?
With necrophelia, it pretty much just come down to the person doing the screwing and how willing they are to contract any diseases from a corpse. ;-; Poor necropheliac....
(my fetish, 'cause you all need to know, is omg hot actun wit 2 guyz lol!!11 Or two girls. >.>)
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jude_boi
at 7:04AM, April 12, 2006
mike z.Aurora Moonmike z.what, you don't have anything for women? like find a certain part of them sexy? nothing for men?
I don't have a fetish, unless buttered bagels at breakfast is a fetish.
then I would say you're proably the first asexual man I've met. ;-)skoolmunkeemike z. wrote:That depends on what you are doing with them.
I don't have a fetish, unless buttered bagels at breakfast is a fetish.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I love women....
...can I get a bagel on the side though? Thanks sweetie, now uh, could you....could you bite into it? Ya, eat that dirty bagel....
oh yeah....that's it....that's the stuff....ohOOOHOOhh yeah!... work it baby. Okay, run your tongue across it....ohohohohohoho...that's so hot......let that hot butter drizzle all over your lips, baby, yeah you know daddy likes that....oh yeah....rub it in for daddy......ya that's right, eat out the middle!.......uhuuuuhhhhhhhh...oh you're such a dirty bagel girl.....AH... OHHHHH...Oops. :oops:
....
....
Okay, go away now. I need some time with the bagel.....to uh, talk. Can you leave a cigarette by the door?
Uhhhh....ummmmm....whoa....strange, but what ever gets you up. Unless it's REALLY bad.
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jude_boi
at 7:09AM, April 12, 2006
I don't get the S&M/B&D, necrophylia is gross, pederasty well...ahem!
Asians. Damn it all, i have an asian thing. However, any gilr as long as she's hot will do it for me.
But i prefer asians. And Latinas.
Asians. Damn it all, i have an asian thing. However, any gilr as long as she's hot will do it for me.
But i prefer asians. And Latinas.
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Anonymous
at 10:38AM, April 12, 2006
SpANG!
It doesn't even have to be a part of the body at all, which is the definition I used in my post.
Example: shoe fettish
mmmm shoes......
I don't think i'll ever be able to eat a bagel again.
just think of the necrophillics who don't use protection, there are some nasty diseases that you can catch from dead bodies, why do you think embalmers wear gloves?
And aurora moon, if you can come without a vibrator then you need a new man, ill agree that its mostly for fun, but what about love? "making love"
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isukun
at 1:50PM, April 12, 2006
why do you think embalmers wear gloves?
I'm sure the toxicity of the chemicals they use has nothing to do with that.
.: isukun :.
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Jillers
at 2:54PM, April 12, 2006
Really, any fetish, whether you agree with it or not is fine. It's normal.
It becomes ABNORMAL when that behavior becomes maladative:
Maladaptive to one's self - inability to reach goals, to adapt to the demands of life and
Maladaptive to society - interferes, disrupts social group functioning.
Pedophilia, for example, is maladaptive to society, as is necrophilia - if only because of the effect it will have on the other person and their family.
Snuff is completely maladaptive, as it ends in death.
To get into any legality about it, children, comatose patients, dead bodies, and some mentally handicapped people (all dependant on what type of mental defect they have and how it affects them and how autonomous they can be) cannot give permission to have sex, and therefore having sex with them is wrong.
Why?
Because children aren't old enough to have learned about sex and/or make a well informe decision about it. Comatose patients are not aware of what's going on. Dead people are, in fact, dead (besides, there are very few people anywhere that don't veiw a dead body as something almost sacred), and mentally handicapped people (again, depending) like children, cannot make a well-informed decision.
Likewise anyone who is drunk or under the influence of drugs, since their thinking is impaired.
I've alwasy wondered what people thought about beastiality - I mean, I think it's gross and sick - but if the humans are consenting, and the animals are heat....?
I'm also really surprised at everyone's willingness to share their own fetishes. In that tradition, I'll add mine - BDSM (yes, like pain) Maledom/femsub, and I have an oral fixation.
It becomes ABNORMAL when that behavior becomes maladative:
Maladaptive to one's self - inability to reach goals, to adapt to the demands of life and
Maladaptive to society - interferes, disrupts social group functioning.
Pedophilia, for example, is maladaptive to society, as is necrophilia - if only because of the effect it will have on the other person and their family.
Snuff is completely maladaptive, as it ends in death.
To get into any legality about it, children, comatose patients, dead bodies, and some mentally handicapped people (all dependant on what type of mental defect they have and how it affects them and how autonomous they can be) cannot give permission to have sex, and therefore having sex with them is wrong.
Why?
Because children aren't old enough to have learned about sex and/or make a well informe decision about it. Comatose patients are not aware of what's going on. Dead people are, in fact, dead (besides, there are very few people anywhere that don't veiw a dead body as something almost sacred), and mentally handicapped people (again, depending) like children, cannot make a well-informed decision.
Likewise anyone who is drunk or under the influence of drugs, since their thinking is impaired.
I've alwasy wondered what people thought about beastiality - I mean, I think it's gross and sick - but if the humans are consenting, and the animals are heat....?
I'm also really surprised at everyone's willingness to share their own fetishes. In that tradition, I'll add mine - BDSM (yes, like pain) Maledom/femsub, and I have an oral fixation.
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jude_boi
at 5:51AM, April 13, 2006
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Aurora Moon
at 5:02PM, April 13, 2006
Lilika
And aurora moon, if you can come without a vibrator then you need a new man, ill agree that its mostly for fun, but what about love? "making love"
So far, I haven't actually met an guy who I was not only pyshically attracted to, but emtionally attracted to yet... in fact I actually haven't met any guy in person yet that I was actually pyshically attracted to.
in fact, I think I might be an lesbain, but so far haven't found any willing girls in North Dakota to expert with to comfirm that.
so for now, I'll just stay asexual and get off on using vibrators. oh, and wearing skintight latex/vinyl outifts. mmmm, sexy.....
I'm on hitatus while I redo one of my webcomics. Be sure to check it out when I'n done! :)
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magickmaker
at 5:13PM, April 16, 2006
Huh, sexual fetishes, eh? Well, as long as everyone else is going...
Homosexuality (Weirdly, it doesn't matter whether it's guys or girls.)
Women with Power. Not in an S&M way, but in a Dark Willow/Phoenix type way.
This thread has been revived so much because, for some odd reason, people like sex.
Homosexuality (Weirdly, it doesn't matter whether it's guys or girls.)
Women with Power. Not in an S&M way, but in a Dark Willow/Phoenix type way.
This thread has been revived so much because, for some odd reason, people like sex.
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ccs1989
at 5:56PM, April 16, 2006
"Some odd reason"? Geezus christ, it's one of the primal urges aside from the need for food that has dominated the human race from the begining for one reason: pleasure. People live life for pleasure (or, you know, if you use lighter terms, 'happiness') and sex sorta embodies that. Of course people like it.
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"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours."
-Henry David Thoreau, Walden
"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours."
-Henry David Thoreau, Walden
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Blitz
at 7:32PM, April 16, 2006
Tater Salad
Dolphins are the only animals besides humans that will have sex solely for pleasure, not just for mating.
But do they have fetishes?
Anyway, I'm dull and boring and don't care for anything eccentric in sex.
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magickmaker
at 6:27PM, April 17, 2006
The whole "for some odd reason" thing was a joke. I know people like sex.
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Linh
at 12:31AM, April 18, 2006
On a side note, both species (bonobos and chimpanzees) descended from the same ancestor as humans. Bonobo DNA is actually more similar to human DNA than that of chimpanzees. Scientists even speculate that their unusual sexual behavior may be similar to that of early humans.
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ozoneocean
at 3:41AM, April 18, 2006
Yeah, but most, if not all Bonobo "sexual" activity is nothing more than a simulated ritual. I've seen chimps perform the same kind of activity upon the resolution of a conflict. Hyenas ALSO perform "simulated" sexual acts, weather male or female.
In fact, quite a few different types of animal do that sort of thing, or something related to it in an affectionate way. What I’ve heard mostly about dolphins is that their mating mostly involves the males ganging up and ‘raping’, or at least having violent group sexual intercourse with a single female. That doesn’t sound so nice to me.
The DNA thing is also a bit skewed. The DNA of most mammals is pretty bloody similar. I mean, we even share DNA with the common household flea! You could say that one of the reasons we share such similar DNA with chimps is because we happen to look the same (because we’re possibly adapted for similar environments), rather than the other way around. Until you can ever prove "common ancestry" you’re stuck with that. And I think Bonobos are not closer to humans than chimps anyway, because they’re not much more than a subspecies of Chimp.
In fact, quite a few different types of animal do that sort of thing, or something related to it in an affectionate way. What I’ve heard mostly about dolphins is that their mating mostly involves the males ganging up and ‘raping’, or at least having violent group sexual intercourse with a single female. That doesn’t sound so nice to me.
The DNA thing is also a bit skewed. The DNA of most mammals is pretty bloody similar. I mean, we even share DNA with the common household flea! You could say that one of the reasons we share such similar DNA with chimps is because we happen to look the same (because we’re possibly adapted for similar environments), rather than the other way around. Until you can ever prove "common ancestry" you’re stuck with that. And I think Bonobos are not closer to humans than chimps anyway, because they’re not much more than a subspecies of Chimp.
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jude_boi
at 6:44AM, April 18, 2006
ccs1989
"Some odd reason"? Geezus christ, it's one of the primal urges aside from the need for food that has dominated the human race from the begining for one reason: pleasure. People live life for pleasure (or, you know, if you use lighter terms, 'happiness') and sex sorta embodies that. Of course people like it.
Dude sex is such a basic need for the average adult. It's a powerful thing, it is!
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kyupol
at 8:21PM, April 18, 2006
I like getting choked between a hot girl's thighs... or between her boobs...
Or doin it with clothes on or half-naked... especially a HJ while I'm still wearing pants... or an attempted BJ while wearing underwear. Or tying up a rope on her neck and walking her around the place like a dog.
I also like spanking each other... :twisted:
Or doin it with clothes on or half-naked... especially a HJ while I'm still wearing pants... or an attempted BJ while wearing underwear. Or tying up a rope on her neck and walking her around the place like a dog.
I also like spanking each other... :twisted:
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Linh
at 9:50PM, April 18, 2006
ozoneocean
Yeah, but most, if not all Bonobo "sexual" activity is nothing more than a simulated ritual. I've seen chimps perform the same kind of activity upon the resolution of a conflict. Hyenas ALSO perform "simulated" sexual acts, weather male or female.
In fact, quite a few different types of animal do that sort of thing, or something related to it in an affectionate way. What I’ve heard mostly about dolphins is that their mating mostly involves the males ganging up and ‘raping’, or at least having violent group sexual intercourse with a single female. That doesn’t sound so nice to me.
The DNA thing is also a bit skewed. The DNA of most mammals is pretty bloody similar. I mean, we even share DNA with the common household flea! You could say that one of the reasons we share such similar DNA with chimps is because we happen to look the same (because we’re possibly adapted for similar environments), rather than the other way around. Until you can ever prove "common ancestry" you’re stuck with that. And I think Bonobos are not closer to humans than chimps anyway, because they’re not much more than a subspecies of Chimp.
I don't know what you mean by simulated ritual, but bonobos do seem to enjoy sex. They do it for many things, not just conflict resolution. Often there seems to be no reason other than pleasure. Other animals don't French kiss and perform oral sex.
As for DNA. Actually, we share some parts of our DNA with every other organism on the planet. But the point is that bonobo DNA is more similar to human DNA than any other animal, even chimps. Around 98% or something. Bonobos and chimpanzees are different species, btw.
I think the scientific community is pretty much set in the belief that humans, chimps, and bonobos descended from a common ancestor, until someone comes up with evidence to the contrary. Sure, you could say that chimps have similar DNA because they look the same or live in the same environment, but that would be extremely unlikely. DNA affects more than just looks. Similar environments rarely induce similar changes in DNA, especially in different species. Usually, different mutations in both species result in different ways of adapting. It would be quite the coincidence for both species to undergo the same random mutations.
So DNA turns out to be a good guide post in determining ancestry. The more similar the species' DNA, the closer they probably are.
Anywaysss, sorry for hijacking the thread. Back to posts about people's sick fantasies... =P
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ozoneocean
at 11:40PM, April 18, 2006
Well I've done the reading from different sources and They are pretty much the same creature. Bonobos are chimps. There is no way they are more alike genetically to humans than they are to Pan troglodytes chimps. They're both considered different species of chimp, so they’re not a subspecies, you’re right there.
Current radical thinking (not generally accepted), seems to be that "chimps" are more alike to humans than they are to apes. Current thinking on genetic similarity to humans and chimps puts it at 97%.
And I mean "ritual" in that it's often not sexual activity, but only the appearance of sexual activity. They act it out as gestures of appeasement, or just some kind of weird social interaction rather than always actually engaging in intercourse, or even seeking it out purely for pleasure. This is a case of humanising animal behaviour a little too freely!
And I feel that the motivation for doing that is to justify such behaviour as “natural†in humans by having an animal example to cite. That strikes me as a little pathetic, not by the people in the forums who’ve mentioned it, but by those who actually champion it. Surely we are intelligent enough and secure enough that we can accept such behaviour as perfectly normal without having to search for analogues and justifications.
As for freaky HUMAN sexual behaviour, it depends in the individual and what they see as normal. Clearly, a lot of you aren’t entirely comfortable with your own sexualities, or you wouldn’t be referring to a lot of what you enjoy as “freaky’ or fetishes. ;)
Maybe you guys need to refer to Bonobos after all…
I once had a hippy, drug taking, friend who was into yoga, believed in aliens, had travelled all around the world, etc. And yet he wouldn’t have sex doggy style with his girlfriend because he thought that would make him gay.
So there you go, it depends on the idividual.
Current radical thinking (not generally accepted), seems to be that "chimps" are more alike to humans than they are to apes. Current thinking on genetic similarity to humans and chimps puts it at 97%.
And I mean "ritual" in that it's often not sexual activity, but only the appearance of sexual activity. They act it out as gestures of appeasement, or just some kind of weird social interaction rather than always actually engaging in intercourse, or even seeking it out purely for pleasure. This is a case of humanising animal behaviour a little too freely!
And I feel that the motivation for doing that is to justify such behaviour as “natural†in humans by having an animal example to cite. That strikes me as a little pathetic, not by the people in the forums who’ve mentioned it, but by those who actually champion it. Surely we are intelligent enough and secure enough that we can accept such behaviour as perfectly normal without having to search for analogues and justifications.
As for freaky HUMAN sexual behaviour, it depends in the individual and what they see as normal. Clearly, a lot of you aren’t entirely comfortable with your own sexualities, or you wouldn’t be referring to a lot of what you enjoy as “freaky’ or fetishes. ;)
Maybe you guys need to refer to Bonobos after all…
I once had a hippy, drug taking, friend who was into yoga, believed in aliens, had travelled all around the world, etc. And yet he wouldn’t have sex doggy style with his girlfriend because he thought that would make him gay.
So there you go, it depends on the idividual.
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jude_boi
at 6:35AM, April 19, 2006
kYuPoL
I like getting choked between a hot girl's thighs... or between her boobs...
Or doin it with clothes on or half-naked... especially a HJ while I'm still wearing pants... or an attempted BJ while wearing underwear. Or tying up a rope on her neck and walking her around the place like a dog.
I also like spanking each other... :twisted:
whoa...two years ago I would of been repulsed...now i just,"What ever gets ya up."
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jude_boi
at 6:38AM, April 19, 2006
Personally, i don't think animals have the same capacity to enjoy sex as humans do. Animals have sex to reproduce; that is out of necessity. Humans are the only ones i have ver seen do it merely cause they can.
Of course, that doesn't explain why dogs hump legs...
Of course, that doesn't explain why dogs hump legs...
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