it seems that after 12 years of development hell and numerous start over...they finally gave up on ever making a new duke nukem game.
RIP
going away - The Game Room
RIP Duke Nukem
Custard Trout
at 12:44PM, May 7, 2009
Ha, I was just about to make a thread about this.
The most hilarious thing about this is that it took this long for their funds to run out. Why did they even bother continuing after the first decade?
The most hilarious thing about this is that it took this long for their funds to run out. Why did they even bother continuing after the first decade?
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Hawk
at 1:18PM, May 7, 2009
I'll bet that even now, we haven't seen the last of Duke Nukem. He's got too much of a name. Sure, right now Duke Nukem is a joke of the videogame industry, but I think it's only a matter of time before some developer feels that a Duke Nukem game that acutally gets released would make big bucks off the fame and novelty factor alone. It might not be made from the assets of Duke Nukem Forever, or even be named that, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it.
And with 3DRealms going bully-up, the odds of them selling the Duke franchise to make this a possibility are good. I think it's a good idea, too. Duke Nukem Forever is a huge debacle, and now, no matter how good a game it was becoming, it probably couldn't live up to a decade's worth of expectations. It needs a fresh start from a different company.
And with 3DRealms going bully-up, the odds of them selling the Duke franchise to make this a possibility are good. I think it's a good idea, too. Duke Nukem Forever is a huge debacle, and now, no matter how good a game it was becoming, it probably couldn't live up to a decade's worth of expectations. It needs a fresh start from a different company.
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ozoneocean
at 11:37AM, May 8, 2009
subculturedumm... That's not what happened man. The game is at the same stage it's been for years: a title that people still claim to be working on.
they finally gave up on ever making a new duke nukem game.
3D realms has folded, that's what the real story is about here.
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Hawk
at 2:14PM, May 8, 2009
I don't know.... they've been showing a lot of Duke Nukem Forever assets recently. Now granted they could have a whole trunk full of artwork and not have worked on the game, but certain screenshots indicate that some parts of the game were pretty far along.
Duke Nukem Forever screenshots and artwork
Not to mention video footage like what Subcultured posted, or footage I saw on an internet video show.
It's not a case that 3DRealms was pretending to work on it. Maybe it was on hold for some of the time. But it's more like they were poorly managed. Just when you thought they were pretty far along in development, they'd switch engines. They went from their own proprietary engine to the Quake 2 engine, then the Unreal engine, then I lost track after that. I wonder who was calling the bone-headed shots that stretched development out that far.
Duke Nukem Forever screenshots and artwork
Not to mention video footage like what Subcultured posted, or footage I saw on an internet video show.
It's not a case that 3DRealms was pretending to work on it. Maybe it was on hold for some of the time. But it's more like they were poorly managed. Just when you thought they were pretty far along in development, they'd switch engines. They went from their own proprietary engine to the Quake 2 engine, then the Unreal engine, then I lost track after that. I wonder who was calling the bone-headed shots that stretched development out that far.
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mishi_hime
at 4:01PM, May 8, 2009
I don't think this is news. I think we all knew this already...
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ozoneocean
at 11:11PM, May 8, 2009
HawkYeah, I know they were sort of working on it, what I meant was that the news wasn't about the end of the game, Sub was wrong in that. It's about the end of 3D realms.
I wonder who was calling the bone-headed shots that stretched development out that far.
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Product Placement
at 12:32AM, May 9, 2009
Ha ha. I heard this on the radio the other day.
I really wasn't that surprised.
It's a distinct possibility... although a remote one that 3D realms will attempt to sell the unfinished game to another game developer but normally that kind of progress takes years and years.
Remember how long it took to make a sequel for Fallout 2?
I really wasn't that surprised.
It's a distinct possibility... although a remote one that 3D realms will attempt to sell the unfinished game to another game developer but normally that kind of progress takes years and years.
Remember how long it took to make a sequel for Fallout 2?
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ozoneocean
at 2:23AM, May 9, 2009
Product Placementheh, It'd be good if they did come out with it. The time is mostly irrelevant to me, as long as they kept in the raunch and the humour, that'd be all that mattered.
Remember how long it took to make a sequel for Fallout 2?
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bbr
at 6:10AM, May 10, 2009
Was there ever any doubt that about duke?
After this long, did anyone really expect it to ever get released?
Well, according to a former employee they never even intended to finish it, just keep you thinking.
After this long, did anyone really expect it to ever get released?
Well, according to a former employee they never even intended to finish it, just keep you thinking.
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ozoneocean
at 7:06AM, May 10, 2009
bbrOh, you mean this?
Well, according to a former employee they never even intended to finish it, just keep you thinking.
http://gamingisstupid.com/2007/12/17/the-chair-story-original/
lol!
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Product Placement
at 3:22AM, May 12, 2009
I'm now reminded of this experimental pilot made by few game critics.
It's no secret that Yahtzee was no fan of 3DRealms.
P.S. It's almost 4 minutes in and then pops up again and again over the video.
Hmm.... I'm gonna make a new topic about this video.
It's no secret that Yahtzee was no fan of 3DRealms.
P.S. It's almost 4 minutes in and then pops up again and again over the video.
Hmm.... I'm gonna make a new topic about this video.
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ozoneocean
at 4:55AM, May 12, 2009
Here'a video of more recent work on Duke. It looks really, really good actually.
I hope there's someone to carry it through to the end.
My guess as to what happened was that the development just dragged their feet a bit for whatever reason and when technology and standards changed pretty rapidly they had to do expensive redesigns to keep up with the times. And that must have happened at least twice, maybe 3 times. At the end they were probably being starved of the funding they needed to actually complete the thing because the parent company was annoyed by lack of progress and so members were only able to work on it on a limited bases. -That's a guess but it's not a unique scenario by any means. ;)
I hope there's someone to carry it through to the end.
My guess as to what happened was that the development just dragged their feet a bit for whatever reason and when technology and standards changed pretty rapidly they had to do expensive redesigns to keep up with the times. And that must have happened at least twice, maybe 3 times. At the end they were probably being starved of the funding they needed to actually complete the thing because the parent company was annoyed by lack of progress and so members were only able to work on it on a limited bases. -That's a guess but it's not a unique scenario by any means. ;)
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Product Placement
at 6:05AM, May 12, 2009
Yeah, they completely abandoned at least one game engine at some time in their development. The video looks cool. I enjoyed the silliness that was Duke Nukem 3D back in the days. If it's ever released I'll probably play it.
Of course since they've been waving the peace of meat that's labeled "we're developing a new Duke Nukem game" in front of us for so long that expectations may be a wee bit high. I'm just constantly reminded by something that Yahtzee said at one point: "I hope that 3DRealms understands that if this game doesn't turn out to be histories greatest contribution to human culture and a cure to at least one type of cancer, then I and every other reviewer on earth are going to saw it's bollocks off".
Of course since they've been waving the peace of meat that's labeled "we're developing a new Duke Nukem game" in front of us for so long that expectations may be a wee bit high. I'm just constantly reminded by something that Yahtzee said at one point: "I hope that 3DRealms understands that if this game doesn't turn out to be histories greatest contribution to human culture and a cure to at least one type of cancer, then I and every other reviewer on earth are going to saw it's bollocks off".
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lefarce
at 7:11PM, May 14, 2009
Even if the studio was still around I highly doubt we would have seen DNF for at least another five years. Apogee Software (3D Realms) isnt the best third party around.
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ozoneocean
at 9:08AM, May 15, 2009
ShinuZerolol!
It's been too long for me to care anymore :/
The time is pretty much irrelevant to me. I can wait "forever" (lol), not because I want it that much, just because I can. i'd be interesting to see. :)
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Hawk
at 9:34AM, May 15, 2009
Take Two is now plans to sue 3DRealms over the Duke Nukem Forever failure. Apparently they put some investment into the game and kept trying to spur 3DRealms to finally finish it, and we all know how that turned out. I can't blame Take Two for wanting their money back.
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Senshuu
at 3:04AM, May 16, 2009
I didn't know this many people actually cared about Duke Nukem.
A male friend of mine rented such a title a long time ago (he was 9). It looked awful.
I guess it was too great a name to simply let die. :B
A male friend of mine rented such a title a long time ago (he was 9). It looked awful.
I guess it was too great a name to simply let die. :B
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FoxmanZEO
at 6:07AM, May 20, 2009
'Who must do the hard things?
He who can.'
-Confucius.
He who can.'
-Confucius.
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Product Placement
at 10:12AM, May 20, 2009
Ok. It's official. We were just suckered into viral advertising.
God! I hate those!
God! I hate those!
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Product Placement
at 1:17PM, May 27, 2009
Posting this here because it was just that relevant.
Ok. Apparently DD doesn't accept The Escapist embeds either so here's the link instead.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/748-Duke-Nukem-Forever
Ok. Apparently DD doesn't accept The Escapist embeds either so here's the link instead.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/748-Duke-Nukem-Forever
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ozoneocean
at 5:45PM, May 27, 2009
Oh joy... Maybe he can tell me how bad a president George Bush Junior was. T_T
I suppose some people are entertained by that sort of thing PP. -_-
I suppose some people are entertained by that sort of thing PP. -_-
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