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kyupol at 10:19PM, Dec. 14, 2007
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@Ninja Wedding

- I dont get it why most of it looks like it was drawn by a beginner while you can draw pretty decently. Theres like a couple comics there with good drawings.

Perhaps youre concealing your true ability to draw. Part of being 'ninja' eh. lol!

Humor is ok. Its not bad but its not something that makes me rotflmao.


Rating: 3/5 (just considering the humor)
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Priest_Revan at 10:00AM, Dec. 18, 2007
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BKSH: This comic looks pretty cool:

Pros: Well drawn characters, fight scenes, and backgrounds. Perspective is done right, and the overall layout is cool. The story seems to be well set (and I didn't have enough time to go through the story at the moment).

Cons: Some people might question the anatomy of the characters... but it's really not that big of an issue. I think the lineart also needs a bit of a touch up.

I'd give this comic a: 4/5
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angry_black_guy at 12:54PM, Dec. 18, 2007
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I expressed my interest about 2's a company in another thread but I'll elaborate:

It's a slice of life comic with good writing. Something rare indeed as "slice of life" is analogous with "boring and dry." I noticed that your strip has cleaner line art than the previous strips showing that your skills are definitely improving. My only suggestion would be to work on your layout. Gutters are your friend (those white spaces between panels) as it helps the eye differentiate between scenes. As it stands, it takes a few seconds to determine the difference between one scene and another.

But, -1 point for including furries. Furries can yiff in hell. No offense to you personally as an artist or writer, but I'll never get over my blinding hatred of furries... so you can assume this rating is actually one point higher than it is!

Pros: Clean, colorful art. Good writing. It's funny when it wants to be, surreal all other times.

Cons: Furries.

angry_black_dude's score: .9/2

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Nicotine at 4:14PM, Dec. 19, 2007
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@ Early Game Monster

Pros:
*I like the comical storytelling; a had a laugh while reading a couple of pages.
*There's something about the monster designs that's nostalgic to me. Reading this, I thought a lot about "Where the Wild Things Are".
*The dialogue is smooth; I like the colloquial speech, like on page 13

Cons:
*The speech bubble colors! Sometimes they hurt my eyes, like the red and magenta ones.
*The word size & font in the speech bubbles seem to be a little too small for me

Overally I find this likeable, even if it's not exactly what I would read. Keep up the good work :D.

3.5/5

EDIT:
@Brock - I took a couple of hours, went through the whole latest chapter, and fixed up the words so that they sounded closer to Middle English. I didn't completely change some things because then it would be too hard for people to read, seeing as some words are obsolete now.

As for the pointing out things, the current chapter is the only one where I do that, in order to add to the silliness/humor.

[..]
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Brock at 4:47PM, Dec. 19, 2007
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Presence:

It's obvious that a lot of time has been put into your pages. From the writing to the art, you take great care and it comes through. The colors are very pretty, so kudos for that. Your character designs are also quite spiffy.

There are a couple of things, however, that really stand out as problems. First of all, the constant labeling of emotions, objects and places is distracting and unnecessary. If you haven't drawn or composed your art well enough that we can't tell what's going on without your label, then you need to redraw. Also, the old english speak is a neat trick (especially in rhyme) if done well, but it's not here. You don't quite have the language down well enough to make it sing. There are syntax, grammar and spelling mistakes all over your pages. Try reading some Shakespeare or King James Bible to get a better feel for it. It's not as simple as stick "Thee" and "Thou" in there.

Rating: 2.5/5
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Ziffy88 at 8:47PM, Dec. 19, 2007
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superfogeys

Good art, some decent gags...main complaint the words. It seems that the text is very long. Maybe too word which can be bad for a web strip.

love the villians profile. I love black leather clad women too :)

4/5

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Emeraldas at 1:46AM, Dec. 20, 2007
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Ziffy88-
The only thing I could suggest would be to make your pictures just a bit smaller. It doesn't quite fit on the screen. Other than that, it looks good. I appreciate the tone, and feel of your comic. Good job. ^^
4/5
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korosu at 5:06AM, Dec. 21, 2007
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Pierrot - The comic isn't very far along, but I like what you've got so far! The art is cute and the story looks pretty original. One thing you might want to do, though, is to ink the pages; that way, the art might be able to stand out more.

4/5
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cs3ink at 5:14PM, Dec. 23, 2007
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The art on Chimera has improved DRAMATICALLY. Wonderful stuff. Great use of tones, 7 the figure work, which showed promise in the beginning has matured to become quite good.

The lack of backgrounds really undermines the art, unfortunately. The setting is as much a character, & as important, as any member of the story. Without a backdrop, the story feels unfinished and lacks a great deal of impact.

The writing has improved as well, though I still don't feel as though there is any deliberate pace. It feels like it meanders a bit.

3/5

Later,
Chip
Creator of Terran Sandz and Broken Things , and now Dead . Check 'em out.
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crazyninny at 7:44PM, Dec. 25, 2007
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To cs3ink comic, Broken Things;

Pros: Loved the pacing of the comic, not too fast, but not too slow. The art and panaling fits the story very well.

Cons: Was confused when the trio was talking. Dan needs to was his hair. The beiging could of been a little better also.

Over all, 3.5/5
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Mondo_Funky at 1:37PM, Dec. 29, 2007
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Pros: I love your character designs, and your use of unusual angles gives the comic a unique, refreshing look. The story is funny, interesting, and well-written.

Plus, Messiah Dude owns.

Cons: It's sometimes difficult to tell what exactly is going on (coloring might help this), and the word bubbles look a tad ugly and out-of-place. Writing the dialog on the artwork, or finding a different program to add text would help out immensely.

4/5
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seventy2 at 6:46PM, Jan. 1, 2008
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pro: the humor is absolutly humorous...and funny....( i dont have a thesaurus)
the desings are simple and the page is never crowded
cons: cons.....cons... any more funny and i could have died from laughing...


4/5 cause it just wasnt funny enough to kill me....
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cs3ink at 6:16AM, Jan. 2, 2008
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I really dig the enthusiasm, but...


The art needs work. There are almost no backgrounds. The anatomy is almost always off, as is the clothing. The artist needs to draw more from life & less from Naruto.

The storytelling is really rough. I would suggest studying the art of sequencial storytelling. There are several good books to chose from.

The writing show... promise, but again shows a lack of understanding of the medium. The dialogue & plotting are very hit & miss.

This looks like the effort of someone just getting started, so, if they stick with it, most, if not all, of these issues should improve.

1/5

Later,
Chip
Creator of Terran Sandz and Broken Things , and now Dead . Check 'em out.
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Ziffy88 at 11:36AM, Jan. 4, 2008
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Broken things has beautiful art. The pacing is perfect the slow and small moments really help compliment the writing. The characters have a unique voice and great dialog. The conversation during lunch did get a little confusing for me.

5/5
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lba at 8:46PM, Jan. 4, 2008
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You obviously have the potential to be doing really good work. But it kinda looks like you need to slow down a bit when you're drawing and really consider what you're doing with each page. I like the loose style, but I think just tightening things up a little might help. the lines look good but the spaces defined by them change a lot. There are a few pages where it looks like your characters are gaining weight and dropping it like none other.

I might also suggest just flat out tossing your text program. You've got this nice sketchy pen style that really sets a mood and you completely just set it at odds with your text. Even if your handwriting is a bit messy I think it would suit the comic better than the plain computer font.

Your writng isn't too bad. Maybe a little polishing on the flow of the comic in each page, but the overall storyline is pretty good and has a decent sense of continuity. I would suggest doing some quick mock up sketches before each page if you aren't already to just help you set out the page and make them flow better.

Overall, you've got something good here, but it needs more time and effort. Don't be afraid to get in there with backgrounds and details and spend some time planning it out.

3/5

http://www.drunkduck.com/Last_words/ Go for it. I'm not expecting rave reviews or anything.
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Valid Soul at 9:36PM, Jan. 4, 2008
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The art is simple, but quirky and fun. It helps shape the feeling you're going for with your messages. The comic's very good, the drawing could just use a little bit of cleanup. But for what it's worth, it's very unique.

4/5
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makingcomicsstudios at 6:52PM, Jan. 5, 2008
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As a personal preference I'm not into SPRITE comics as they're called. I'd much rather see someone attempt their own drawings at any skill level rather than seeing bits and pieces of video games mashed together. I tried to look beyond the fact this was a SPRITE comic in hopes that there was something in the order of events and dialogue that made it unique. I just didn't get the whole presentation. Perhaps its because I'm an old fart.

1/5
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Ziffy88 at 7:45PM, Jan. 5, 2008
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Post apoc earth men in space soldiers in a mostly abandoned San Fransisco fighting zombies. Hostage situation and a traitor is needed to prevent to many deaths. lots of set up lots of promise nothing noteworthy hopefully it will pay off.

3/5
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trevoramueller at 10:17AM, Jan. 9, 2008
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I make this post with the intention of not hurting anyone's feelings, but to give some honest constructive feedback and hopefully help the work and encourage the artist to push themself to the next level:

The Other Me is kind of funny with the dialogue (and it's good that you separate the characters text by giving them unique fonts), but the artwork is kind of plain. There's no real depth to the world in which the character inhabit, or even in the space that they appear in. With a lack of shadows, the characters also sometimes get lost on the page. The black and white artwork are fine, and the sketchy look of the characters works for now (but eventually you may want to consider giving the character more a finished and refined look and feel), but it can be difficult to figure out where the conversation or action is taking place without a background.

My recommendation would be to put some shadows into your background, find a way to help your characters stand out against the current stark-white backdrop that tries to hide them. Shadows are easier than drawing backgrounds sometimes. At least one of the panels on a page should help the reader establish location and time (day / night). Continue using the different fonts to identify the characters dialogue (because it really works if you have a character off panel talking). And beyond that, be sure to keep at it! :D

overall: 2.5 / 5

It's been a while since I've asked for some honest feedback, so please don't hold back. The more constructive you can be, the better - but also just let me know what seems to work and what does not. I'll let whoever reviews pick which comic they want: Temple or @$$hole!
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Steely Gaze at 1:05PM, Jan. 10, 2008
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I'm rating @$$hole .

Pros: Great shading; wild stories; well-written dialog. Overall, the pros here show a lot of talent, especially in the storyline areas. I also like the artwork a lot; the style compliments the bizarre situations perfectly.

Cons: Too many in-jokes. Seriously, this is really the only real flaw I could find. Sometimes, it feels as though the artist is telling a story but that you would need to understand the many, many movies, television shows, and even sometimes the artist's actual life just to get some of the gags.

Overall: 3.5/5. This is a solid comic that can be incredibly funny at times, but can also be frustrating when you don't understand some of the jokes being used. It definitely deserves to be read before any decision is made by the individual reader.
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Exzachly at 3:25PM, Jan. 11, 2008
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Review of a roll of the dice :

Ok. The art is decent, it doesnt take away from anything, but the art definitely can't carry the comic alone. My criticisms of the art would be that the profiles of the bodies really need some work, and that you should try to include some different angles other than the chest-up shot you use so often.

The dialog is also about par. Most of the dialog was the characters saying things that were necessary to move the plot forward. There is a sprinkling of humor there too, very light and benign humor, which for that very reason I couldnt get into (one exception here ). None of the dialog is really that inspired, but it is very brisk and easy to read through, which is nice.

Ok, the rest is really where the problem lies. I don't understand what this comic is really supposed to be about. It looks like this comic is about a guy who gets a crush on a girl who works at a D&D hobby store. But then there's also a completely nonsequitur arc about crossdressing thrown into the mix. For me, this arc is really out of place. Not only is it completely at odds with the mood of the rest of the strip, but it takes place far too early, before the main story gains any momentum at all we are distracted by this sub-plot. It makes the comic seem aimless.

Also, I would say that character development is overlooked in this comic. The only attempt to do so is in the first couple pages, where the character flat out tells the audience what type of person he is.... Rule #1 of writing: Don't tell, show. Show us that the character is prudish, introverted, and lonely. Make us sympathize with him, THEN introduce the love character. Show us who the cross dressing friend is, give us a reason to like him, THEN have something happen to him. Otherwise the audience wont care about what's going on, because you've given them no reason to.

Score: 2/5 - Not horrible, but missing on some of the storytelling elements.
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jgib99 at 7:25PM, Jan. 11, 2008
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Last Place Comics

This comic is really funny. The strips range from Humorous to frickin' hilarious. I especially dig Dr. Ninja and the business time strip had me laughing my a$$ off. Your comic is quite impressive for the usually hit or miss world of comic strips. The artwork is pretty decent, especially in the more recent pages.

My rating for Last Place Comics is 4/5.
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Valid Soul at 8:35AM, Jan. 12, 2008
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How Unfortunate is a great comic which has an unorthodox story, the villains take the center stage. Well, at least a regular ordinary cop that becomes assimilated into everyday villain life. The art really works well with this comic, and it just gets progressively better through each page. The characters are believable and it's cool to see a little humor thrown in to help gloss the comic as a whole. Overall, a very good comic.

4/5
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cs3ink at 8:58AM, Jan. 12, 2008
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I don't like Sprite comics. So I'm predisposed to rate then as less than zero.

That being said, American007 pushes the genre further than any other sprite comic does. VS puts a heck of alot of work into the book, pushing the rendering in directs that re-define the genre.

The writing is less innovative, but still tends to be on the strong side. Still not my bag, but I very much respect his craft.

From the perspective of sprite comics, I'd rate it 7/5.

Judged as part of the whole of DD, 3/5.

Later,
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lba at 5:33PM, Jan. 12, 2008
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Dead has definately got something going. It's dark and gritty yet still humorous at the same time. The artwork is somewhat sketchy and expressive which lends itself well to a darker plot. The whole comic seems pretty heavily art driven; the text and speech almost seem like the kind of internal thought footnotes found in Sin City yet Dead is a complete different entity from other things. Nonetheless the text really helps add a detached feel to the character.

There are still a few parts where some of the art needs a little clean up. Mostly small details like the hand in page 8 seems a little stiff and flattened. Overall though the artwork is solid.

4.5/5
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seventy2 at 4:01PM, Jan. 14, 2008
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my grandma always had farside sitting around the house....i grew up loving one panel comics...
your artstyle and sometimes sadistic humor is an echo of Gary larson, and also those t-shirts with the monkey that's always doing something stupid....
my favorite is that you can do it with one panel...you know you got something funny when you can do that.

4/5
because i'm biased to someone who can make me laugh in one panel....
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Sidwarrious at 12:44AM, Jan. 15, 2008
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Ah Seventy2 you've been an avid reader of my comic and I've checked out yours on more then one or two occasions and so now to say my piece. Ninja Wedding isn't bad. It's not great, but very middle of the road right now. The humor isn't terrible and neither is the art. In some pages I think you really outdo yourself and then others seem like they were done bad on a dare. But I'm not big on art, to me writing is what makes a comic because a comic can always be redrawn to look better, but bad writing is bad writing and your pacing and writing aren't bad. Well, your pacing is. NW could be cut almost in half and the story would remain completely intact. It's almost like it would be better if it was released in chapters and you could look at a page and go "Hunh, look at that" and move on, but the update as a singular page is more like "Ok, so that's it?". There's a lot of time spent on unneeded angles and shots. The good humor offsets this from time to time but on pages when the art was bad and an unneeded shot is thrown in then you offset the joke by having a bad panel.

Overall I like it and have thought many times of doing you a guest comic once Mercs' current work is done and I get some free time. But right now just work on your pacing and making every page count more, because right now you're like Family Guy. There's alot you could do away with and not miss. But I can't wait to see you grow further and maybe the comic could become a real thing o' beauty.

3/5
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Brock at 1:44PM, Jan. 15, 2008
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Mercs -

Okay, first off, I am NOT the target audience for this. This is a comic that EARNS its "M" rating in the worst way. If you like liberal use of the "F" word and lots of graphically censored sex, then this is for you. Not for me though. My rating can't help but be affected by it, so I think it's only fair that I point out that I found this comic deplorable.

Now, as for things like storytelling and artwork...I wish I could say it was the saving grace of a comic like this, but it's just not. The art is sparsely rendered and is, at times, so sparse that I'm not even sure what's going on or where the characters are. Panels are tossed on the page and it's hard to tell what order any given page is supposed to be read in. As for dialogue, the characters talk in a kind of "shock speak" that could be interesting if done well, but usually just comes off as offensive. There are some decent character designs going on here, but they're so inconsistently rendered that I have hard time thinking back and picturing what any of them looked like.

Sorry, Sidwarrious, this comic just was not my speed.

Rating: 1/2 out of 5
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Katch at 11:49PM, Jan. 15, 2008
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SuperFogeys managed to make me laugh uncontrollably until my sides hurt, and that was from the first two strips, i think it's brilliant, old super heroes and villains~
your art is lovely, very nice lines and you've got an original idea (as far as i've read)
too many words? bah~!! titanic speech bubbles are there for a reason =O

good show =} 5/5
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Ziffy88 at 7:25PM, Jan. 16, 2008
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Pretty art nice layouts

writing wise too early to talk about the story but my complaints are the lettering, you like me need an editor. Some of your lines are missing words. I can understand what they're saying.

A bit early to call 4/5 (in other words give it a try)
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