lefarce

Lord Shplane
Ok, what games are you looking forward too?

At this point?

MGS4
Assassins Creed
Super Smash Bros Brawl.

That's it. Video games have been mighty sucky lately, with the exception of The Orange Box.

Was on my list.

Ewww, that's on the PS3? I'm taking that off my list.

lefarce
Ewww, that's on the PS3? I'm taking that off my list.

MGS4=PS3 exclusive.

Lord Shplane

lefarce
Ewww, that's on the PS3? I'm taking that off my list.

MGS4=PS3 exclusive.

MGS4 is the ONLY good thing about that system. MGS4 is better than the cancer curing aspects of that 600 dollar paperweight.

Also, if Sony is so amazing, let me ask you something.

PSP?

lefarce
PSP?

The PSP needed better advertising, instead of those fucking squirrels. I actually like my PSP, it's just that it needs more games.

Also, Monster Hunter Freedom was awesome. That game alone made the PSP worthwhile.

Perhaps curing cancer is the only posotive quality of the PS3.

genstru
Perhaps curing cancer is the only posotive quality of the PS3.

NO

The PS3 has plenty of good games, despite how much people like to say that it doesn't. It's capable of having FAR better quality games, if game developers will get off their asses and take advantage of it.

Also, you know the thing about it being expensive? The price will go down. The components are getting cheaper to make.

Lord Shplane

genstru
Perhaps curing cancer is the only posotive quality of the PS3.

NO

The PS3 has plenty of good games, despite how much people like to say that it doesn't. It's capable of having FAR better quality games, if game developers will get off their asses and take advantage of it.

Also, you know the thing about it being expensive? The price will go down. The components are getting cheaper to make.

True, but won't the components for the opposing system also lower in price at about the same rate? I don't see any scenario where the PS3 isn't still the most expensive system on the market.

And I agree on the PSP. It's an impressive piece of hardware, but has largely been ignored by developers in favor of the easier to program for DS, which I suppose I understand. It's crap as an MP3 player (the shoulder buttons really ruin it), but I think it's great how easily it does all those multi-media things. Still, Sony was stepping into unfamiliar territory, and hopefully the PSP 2 will improve on this system's shortcomings.

Inkmonkey
True, but won't the components for the opposing system also lower in price at about the same rate? I don't see any scenario where the PS3 isn't still the most expensive system on the market.

Yes, probably. But it's not so much the fact that it costs MORE than other systems as it is that it costs so much in general. If a 360 cost $200 dollars, and a PS3 cost $300, isn't that still quite a bit better than what it was before? Wouldn't you be much more inclined to buy one in that scenario?

Lord Shplane

lefarce
PSP?

The PSP needed better advertising, instead of those fucking squirrels. I actually like my PSP, it's just that it needs more games.

Also, Monster Hunter Freedom was awesome. That game alone made the PSP worthwhile.

I've owned one since it came out and I've only ever bought three games for it. Two of which I sold after a single play through for Halo 3 (which I don't even care for). Final Fantasy Tatics and my rom hacks are the only things that's making me hold onto it. It's not about advertising, I don't think. They just need more content.

lefarce
I've owned one since it came out and I've only ever bought three games for it. Two of which I sold after a single play through for Halo 3 (which I don't even care for). Final Fantasy Tatics and my rom hacks are the only things that's making me hold onto it. It's not about advertising, I don't think. They just need more content.

It's a combination of the two, actually. While there are good games on the PSP, there aren't enough of them, and the ones there are aren't advertised properly.

Also, I plan to get that FFT remake. It sounds pretty awesome.

I'm looking forward to Assassin's Creed. It's like Kingdom of Heaven, but good. And you get to be a Muslim stalker killing evil invading Christian white ppl and the evil Muslim traitors who help them. That's so politically incorrect it's just pure awesome, like 300 backwards. Ever since I read The Dream And The Tomb, I've been waiting for something like this that doesn't suck.

It's not a PS3 exclusive. *Gives PS3 birdie.*

mlai
I'm looking forward to Assassin's Creed. It's like Kingdom of Heaven, but good. And you get to be a Muslim stalker killing evil invading Christian white ppl and the evil Muslim traitors who help them. That's so politically incorrect it's just pure awesome, like 300 backwards. Ever since I read The Dream And The Tomb, I've been waiting for something like this that doesn't suck.

It's not a PS3 exclusive. *Gives PS3 birdie.*

It'll look prettier on the PS3 though, won't it?

Lord Shplane

mlai
I'm looking forward to Assassin's Creed. It's like Kingdom of Heaven, but good. And you get to be a Muslim stalker killing evil invading Christian white ppl and the evil Muslim traitors who help them. That's so politically incorrect it's just pure awesome, like 300 backwards. Ever since I read The Dream And The Tomb, I've been waiting for something like this that doesn't suck.

It's not a PS3 exclusive. *Gives PS3 birdie.*

It'll look prettier on the PS3 though, won't it?

I think that really depends on what system it was developed for. As I recall it was originally developed as an Xbox game, so graphics and such will be optimized for that system, and simply ported to the PS3, which usually results in some loss of graphics.

Inkmonkey

Lord Shplane

mlai
I'm looking forward to Assassin's Creed. It's like Kingdom of Heaven, but good. And you get to be a Muslim stalker killing evil invading Christian white ppl and the evil Muslim traitors who help them. That's so politically incorrect it's just pure awesome, like 300 backwards. Ever since I read The Dream And The Tomb, I've been waiting for something like this that doesn't suck.

It's not a PS3 exclusive. *Gives PS3 birdie.*

It'll look prettier on the PS3 though, won't it?

I think that really depends on what system it was developed for. As I recall it was originally developed as an Xbox game, so graphics and such will be optimized for that system, and simply ported to the PS3, which usually results in some loss of graphics.

Not if the developers do it right when they move it over. Oblivion wasn't originally designed for the PS3, and it looks better on it.

Oh, and people have said that the PS3 version of Oblivion has more glitches? Well, it doesn't. I haven't encountered any glitch that caused me to not be able to complete a quest or anything like that, and I'm level 39 and the leader of the Fighters Guild, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, and the Arena Grand Champion, so it's not like I haven't been playing long enough to see them. In every guide I've read on the internet they've been like "DON'T DO ANY OF THESE FIVE THINGS OR YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FINISH THE QUEST AND YOUR 360 WILL EXPLODE!!!" I've done severel of the things they said not to do, and it didn't cause any problems.

I've only seen 3 glitches so far, and only one of them is common. The common one is enemies getting stuck in walls. I've had it happen around five times. The next one is that after the Fighters Guild mission where you get high and kill a bunch of "goblins" that turn out to be people, when I went back to the town later the people were floating backwards offscreen and phasing through a hill instead of lying on the ground dead. And... I really can't remember the other one. I know there was another one, but I can't remember it.

Lord Shplane
The next one is that after the Fighters Guild mission where you get high and kill a bunch of "goblins" that turn out to be people, when I went back to the town later the people were floating backwards offscreen and phasing through a hill instead of lying on the ground dead.

lol! That actually sounds more entertaining than the glitches I found on Morrowind.

Perhaps curing cancer is the only posotive quality of the PS3.

Free online that works and doesn't require friend codes is a big plus. Having the lowest failure rate of current consoles is a big plus. I have a 360 and a Wii and while the 360 has been turned on every now and then to play Warriors: Orochi (a port of a PS2 game) and once to play through Halo 3 the Wii has done nothing but collect dust for the past two months. In the meantime, my PS3 game collection is expanding, while I find myself gradually selling back the Wii and 360 games.

True, but won't the components for the opposing system also lower in price at about the same rate? I don't see any scenario where the PS3 isn't still the most expensive system on the market.

Actually, a lot of competing systems have ended up matching prices after the first couple of years. Xbox started out more expensive than the PS2, but eventually dropped to the same level as Sony's system. There is no reason the PS3 couldn't do the same in a year or two. It will really boil down to how badly Sony wants to regain the lead and how much Microsoft wants to make a profit this generation.

It's an impressive piece of hardware, but has largely been ignored by developers in favor of the easier to program for DS, which I suppose I understand.

Actually, most developers are shunning it because of the rampant piracy on the system leading to poor software sales. The homebrew community is actually pretty strong for the system and I hear it isn't all that much harder than developing software for the PC. Most consoles also have dev kits which make development a lot easier. I've seen a lot of programmers who basically say the difficulty of working with hardware on the console market is usually a non-issue when choosing platforms since dev kits take a lot of the burden off of the programmers.

I'm disappointed in this gen's consoles. A white rehash, a black paperweight, and a gray box full of faulty parts that require purchase of even more parts that are faulty.

I am mostly upset with the black paper weight and the gray box o rocks.

I've got the white rehash, and I'm pretty happy with it. I'm not really a hardcore gamer, so I don't have much interest in games like Metal Gear, Assassin's Creed, or the Final Fantasy series, so the other options are just more expensive things used to play games I don't like. The only games coming out for the other systems that are making me wish I had them are Rock Band and Brutal Legend (a Rock n' Roll epic from the Psychonauts guy).

Blind Nintendo Fanboys using "a lack of games" to defend their own system is beyond hypocritical. Inkmonkey has a much better approach, although I don't find most current and upcoming games on the Wii inherently more casual than games on other systems.

LIZARD_B1TE

Lord Shplane
The next one is that after the Fighters Guild mission where you get high and kill a bunch of "goblins" that turn out to be people, when I went back to the town later the people were floating backwards offscreen and phasing through a hill instead of lying on the ground dead.

lol! That actually sounds more entertaining than the glitches I found on Morrowind.

It was. I lol'd repeatedly.

isukun
Blind Nintendo Fanboys using "a lack of games" to defend their own system is beyond hypocritical. Inkmonkey has a much better approach,

Yes to both.

isukun
although I don't find most current and upcoming games on the Wii inherently more casual than games on other systems.

The Wii has around eight million minigame collections, and those are about as casual as it gets.

Lord
The Wii has around eight million minigame collections, and those are about as casual as it gets.

PS3: Lack of Games
Wii: Only Minigames.

Both are used by fanboys on both sides.

Terminal

Lord
The Wii has around eight million minigame collections, and those are about as casual as it gets.

PS3: Lack of Games
Wii: Only Minigames.

Both are used by fanboys on both sides.

I will admit that the PS3 doesn't have as many games OVERALL as the other systems, but it has about the same number of good ones.

I would have bought a PS3 but then my friends convinced me how bad it was so I never bought it.

genstru
I would have bought a PS3 but then my friends convinced me how bad it was so I never bought it.

Do your friends have one?

Probably.

genstru
Probably.

Well find out. Because if they don't, then me and Isukun are more qualified to comment on it than they are, and we both love the thing.

My only complaint about the PS3 is that I'm not getting my money's worth. Like I said before, I want what I payed for. I don't care much about graphics or HDTV, I care about the content of games... so far, the only game that I enjoyed was DiRT and Splinter Cell.

With the Wii, considering the cheap price, I got my money's worth. I didn't expect much buying it... and was pleasantly surprised. Sure, I only turn it on to play with the internet since there has been a huge drought of games and sure, the last game I played on the Wii was Scarface, but the enjoyment I got from the games I've played was enough that there is no nagging thought in my head that says, "I wasted $250 dollars on this?"

What everyone seems to be forgetting is that video game consoles are just that, consoles. If I wanted media center, I'd use my PC. I don't care what it can do or the power it's capable of, I care for what it does to console my entertainment.

I will admit that the PS3 doesn't have as many games OVERALL as the other systems, but it has about the same number of good ones.

Actually, I generally find the Wii section in just about every store I go to to be smaller than the PS3 section.

PS3: Lack of Games
Wii: Only Minigames.

Both are used by fanboys on both sides.

True, although the supposed focus on casual gaming and the large quantity of minigame collections on the wii from the launch of the system isn't entirely false.

Wii Sports
Wii Play
Mario Party 8
Wario Ware
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (Party Mode with 50 minigames)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (Party Mode with 40 minigames)
Rayman Raving Rabbids (which is also getting a sequel)
Carnival Games
EA Playground
Tamagotchi Party On!
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Cooking Mama (also on board for a sequel)
Cranium Kabookii
Game Party
Indoor Sports
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Wii Fit

and that isn't even listing games in Japan that are likely to come out here (plus there are a couple more that I know of, but I'm unsure of the names). Granted there are other genres which are in abundance on the system, but you also have to take into consideration that Wii Sports (which isn't a pack in over there) and Wii Play have outsold any other game on the system in Japan, including Zelda and Metroid. Of the eight top selling games worldwide for the Wii by the end of July, five were minigame collections. If anything, Wii has earned that stereotype.

I will admit that the PS3 lineup isn't stellar at this point, but the stereotype is more a creation of the Xbox fan community due to the year head start. Developers have had more time to test the waters and push out more titles on the 360 (reguardless of their quality). The problem I see with Nintendo fans using the same argument is that the Wii isn't in any better position with a near simultaneous launch with the PS3 and the same lacking software library. Quite honestly, though, as an owner of all three systems, I can't say that any of them have software libraries which have really "wowed" me at this point. I find the most disappointing to be Microsoft's simply BECAUSE they had that year head start and squandered it.