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No Game Deserves a Score of 10.
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When you, as a reviewer, give a game a 10 you have just proven that you are worthless not only as a game reviewer but as a human being in general. In fact, you are required, by law, to delete your GameJournalismDiploma.PDF that you downloaded. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

Halo 3 is not a 10/10 game. Bioshock is not a 10/10 game. Anyone who is trying to tell you that it is, is a filthy lying idiot.

For a game to be a 10, it must be of unapproachable perfection. It must contain such perfectly executed code that it can only be engraved on discs made from the purest platinum. A disc that contained such code would be so bright that you could not directly look at it without your head exploding in a cloud of blood from the sheer potential euphoria that it emits. In fact, upon inserting said disc into the console, you would instantly ejaculate. If this does not happen, it's not a perfect game.

Also, playing the game would be a continuous 90 hour orgasm, which would be at least seven times more powerful than being fellated by Jessica Alba, Jessica Rabbit and Jessica Chobot, as well as Ada Wong simultaneously, while playing a 25x25 grid of Picross.

Also the game would be designed by Will Wright, Sid Meier, Alexey Pazhitnov, Hideo Kojima and Miyamoto; contain the characters Marcus Fenix, Cloud Strife, the "L" Tetris block, Yoshi and Kratos; have music by Howard Shore remixed by Paul Oakenfold then remixed again by DJ Jazzy Jeff; be directed by Peter Jackson, Ridley Scott, George Lucas and Stanley Kubrick and then fucked around by George Lucas again; be written by J.R.R. Tolkien in collaboration with Tom Clancy and Stephen King and then plagiarized by Clive Barker. The game would also start you off as an organism, which evolves through every possible stage of life including every human and alien civilization both known and unknown, with elements of stealth-action through each epoch using a shadow meter; has tactical strategy that is real-time with the option to pause play so you can queue up your spells, has deep puzzle solving elements where you can beat up hookers with bats with none of that platform jumping bullshit, include a deep well-rounded RPG experience in between frenetic first-person-over-the-shoulder-run-and-gun fireplay with hundreds of doves flying in slow motion. And the game is controlled entirely with two Wiimotes, one in each hand. And it's in Dolby Pro Logic II. And your girlfriend can play with you simultaneosly. And it's not too hard for her.

After completing such a perfect game, your Wii console would instantly explode emitting a powerful EMP which permanently disrupts all electronics, especially Playstation 3's and Xbox360's within a 900 mile radius. If this does not happen, it's not a perfect game.

Also, the game could only be reviewed by Matt Casamassina, who would, upon bestowing the ultimate 10 out of 10 score, and realizing with horror that there would be no further use for his continued existence, cause his own head to explode in a cloud of blood. It would be a sad day because we love that fucking guy.

Also, at that precise moment, radiating out of Reggie Fils-Aime would be waves of orgasmic satisfaction, the force of which would not only sink the entire country of China, and ridding the entire world of software pirates forever, but also sending Perrin Kaplan into massive, mouth-frothing conniption which also causes her head to explode in a cloud of blood, because Reggie is fucking awesome! That man eats doors!

As a footnote, if Peter Molyneux is at all involved, or if he is even within 39 time zones of the game being developed, the game instantly fails. In fact, the game could not possibly achieve more than a 3.5 out of 10.


...come to think of it, that would be a pretty awesome game.
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ozoneocean at 6:27AM, Sept. 29, 2007
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Haw, haw, haw... a 10 point rating system exists so that things can be rated from 1 -10 based on subjective evaluations by individuals... You're a bad reviewer if you never give a 10 especially if it's based on the idea that a 10 score is based on a fantasy, because that means in actuality your working ratings system is only 1-9.

But anyway, I'd give that game a 7. But only because I like 7s. Either that or a 3 because 3's are even better!
 
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Hawk at 8:54AM, Sept. 29, 2007
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I don't mind if a REALLY good game gets a 10. It should be rare though. I think there are a few games I would give a 10 to.... one of them is Resident Evil 4. But a "10" game would need that extra level of polish and ingenious creation that you don't commonly see in videogames.
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Lord Shplane at 11:53AM, Sept. 29, 2007
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I just love how he acted like a perfect game could only be on the Wii. The bastard.

As much as I like my PS3, I do acknowledge that the perfect game could possibly be for another system.
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mlai at 2:22PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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I just love how he acted like a perfect game could only be on the Wii. The bastard.

This is because as games become more complex, there is this mounting respect for the simple, addictive games which break the most fundamental new grounds.

The same trend happens in art and in comics.

And in concept, the system which would best support such simple addictive games would be the Wii.

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marine at 2:29PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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I'd give a ten to a couple games, some are easiar to argue for than others. Its all about personal prefrences, looks and style, gameplay, replayability, story and length, and probably some more stuff I can't think of right now. A lot of great games out there, but only two are going to win all the polls because of their fanboys, Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy 7. Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil 4 have a lot of fans, but they've got nothing on the rabid fanboyism of final fantasy and nintendo nerds. Also Halo has some goofy fanboyism that goes along with it.

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kennatsu at 2:44PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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If I was going to explain a 10 point rating system, I'd never give a game a 10 score since only a game created by a perfect, omnipotent diety would be able to recieve such a score. I stay far away from reviews that give 10 points (plus decimal places) to games. Hence I rely mostly on X-Play for my decision on buying games since they use a 5 point system without decimals. :)
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mlai at 6:08PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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The 10 is there to be used. It's not an imaginary number. We're talking about games, not the meaning of life. That's why that article is utterly stupid except as a piece of comedy.

If somebody said Pac Man or Super Mario Bros (original) or Street Fighter 2 or Starcraft (patched) deserve a 10, I wouldn't argue.

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angry_black_guy at 7:47PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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I can't think of a single publication that literally states a 10 as being perfect. Ratings are subjective and based on what's available at the time which is why a game 20 years ago would be rated completely different from a game now. If your scale was based purely on 1 being total garbage and 10 being supremely perfect, the scale of 1-10 would more accurately be .9999-9.999998. You're just rounding up for simplicity.

And the perfect game would exist on the virtual boy. there's no other alternative.

wait, the n-gage is a good runner up.

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marine at 8:19PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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A lot of games get tens and they say its the best or perfect.

I look at video game ratings with the same goggles as anything else. I don't belive their opinions at all.

Until I've played a demo or seen a video of a game, its not sold on me. For me theres three types of games, good games, great games, and shitty games. Nothing in between or else. That usually is the difference between renting it, buying it, or avoiding it.

Very rarely will I buy a game when it comes out. But I can name a few that I was sold on after just seeing a video of it in action, for example:



Soon as the chainsaw guy comes out, I had to have it. It was just so awesome looking and my gamecube was lacking an awesome game like this one, and it was jus an awesome game. How can you not love it?

Now a game I want to play, but am not necessarily going to pay sixty bucks for is Blue Dragon. Game looked pretty good in videos and magazines, and the demo played pretty great. I'm just skeptical for a couple reasons. Seems like the game is a little too much like the crappier anime shows and one of the main guys has an extremely annoying voice. I'll probably rent it. Another one that looked good but I won't buy, Overlord. It looked like a lot of fun, and the demo controlled pretty well, but I just don't see sixty dollars worth of entertainment in it.

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MrNelson007 at 10:20PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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Now a game I want to play, but am not necessarily going to pay sixty bucks for is Blue Dragon. Game looked pretty good in videos and magazines, and the demo played pretty great. I'm just skeptical for a couple reasons. Seems like the game is a little too much like the crappier anime shows and one of the main guys has an extremely annoying voice. I'll probably rent it. Another one that looked good but I won't buy, Overlord. It looked like a lot of fun, and the demo controlled pretty well, but I just don't see sixty dollars worth of entertainment in it.




Yeah. I'd pass on Blue Dragon. I got it, and it just doesn't appeal to me. It's 'walk from one movie to the next', and that gets boring fast. Plus the story didn't call out to me. Overlord, that's another story. Found that more than a little entertaining. Pikmin with some improvements that made it fun. Story disappointed me, but otherwise, good times.

Back on track, nothing's going to be perfect. Even for the time. Different people have different tastes, and no one game is going to have EVERYONE love it. I'd say the bigger issue is the fact that no one seems to use the lower half of their scale. The 10-point sites may as well only have 5, because you almost never see a 1-5.
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Terminal at 11:21PM, Sept. 29, 2007
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I just love how he acted like a perfect game could only be on the Wii. The bastard.

As much as I like my PS3, I do acknowledge that the perfect game could possibly be for another system.


Don't bring this 'lol wii sucks' bullshit into this thread.

The blog was clearly taken from a Wii blog.
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Lord Shplane at 1:33AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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*Sigh* dammit people, I was simply implying that the perfect game could possibly be for ANY system, and that the fucktard shouldn't have acted all like "lol, gaem can only b 4 wii bcaues wee am sytsam i liek!!!!11!!"

I even acknowledged the fact that it could be for any system. That includes the Wii, though the Wii is the current gen system that I least likely see it being for. Personally, I believe that the perfect game would be cross platform, so that everyone could play it on the system they like the most, thereby allowing it to be the perfect game for everyone.

Stop misconstruing my posts, I'm sick of having to write whole paragraphs just to explain things to you people.
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DAJB at 3:44AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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I have no problem with games (or movies, or comics, or anything else) being given a score of 10. But you do have to question reviewers' motivations sometimes. Sticking with the Halo series for now ...

Halo - many reviewers gave this a 10/10 when it was released. Don't get me wrong, it was a very good game but it's difficult to escape the conclusion that the real reason there were so many 10s flying around was because the launch of the original X-Box needed the hype.

Halo 2 - Compared to the original, the solo play for Halo 2 was was pretty much more of the same. It had a couple of interesting tweaks (dual wielding, sections where you played as the Arbiter) but nothing that justified how short it was. Nevertheless, it still garnered a bunch of 10 scores. If you read the reviews of the time, it's clear that reviewers were so taken with the multiplayer that they ignored the shortcomings of the main campaign.

Halo 3 - Again, more of the same. The bubble shields are fun but not essential to the main game. The graphics are certainly not up to the standard of, say, Gears of War, or even the latest Tomb Raider. But it will score 10 again, partly because of the multiplayer (again!) but also because reviewers now have a warm fuzzy feeling about the franchise in general. Giving it less than 10 would be like the betrayal of a loved one.

Games can get 10/10 for many reasons. You just have to remember that a reviewers' reasons might not be the same as yours.
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Terminal at 8:28AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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*Sigh* dammit people, I was simply implying that the perfect game could possibly be for ANY system, and that the fucktard shouldn't have acted all like "lol, gaem can only b 4 wii bcaues wee am sytsam i liek!!!!11!!"

I even acknowledged the fact that it could be for any system. That includes the Wii, though the Wii is the current gen system that I least likely see it being for. Personally, I believe that the perfect game would be cross platform, so that everyone could play it on the system they like the most, thereby allowing it to be the perfect game for everyone.

Stop misconstruing my posts, I'm sick of having to write whole paragraphs just to explain things to you people.


Understandable, but think we're not sick of hearing in every thread your hate for the Wii? I hate Blu-Ray but I don't go telling everyone.
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mlai at 10:27AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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The cross-platform game always caters to the lowest common denominator, and therefore has a lower chance to be the perfect game.

A game that becomes so popular that eventually it is recruited to become cross-platform... that's a different story.

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Terminal at 10:29AM, Sept. 30, 2007
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The cross-platform game always caters to the lowest common denominator, and therefore has a lower chance to be the perfect game.

A game that becomes so popular that eventually it is recruited to become cross-platform... that's a different story.


Basically, all "every platform including ColecoVision" type Electronic Arts game.

...and the Katamari series.
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Lord Shplane at 12:17PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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Understandable, but think we're not sick of hearing in every thread your hate for the Wii? I hate Blu-Ray but I don't go telling everyone.


That's not what I was doing. I was just saying that the guy was being stupid by saying that the perfect game could only be for one specific system.

mlai
The cross-platform game always caters to the lowest common denominator, and therefore has a lower chance to be the perfect game.

A game that becomes so popular that eventually it is recruited to become cross-platform... that's a different story.


Cross-platform games have been that way in the past... but that doesn't mean that all cross-platform games will be that way. My point is that I would not enjoy a Wii game, therefore it would not be the perfect game for me. Many people would not enjoy a PS3 game, therefore it would not be the perfect game for them. A large number of people would not enjoy an XBox 360 game, and it would not be the perfect game for them. In order for a game to be truly perfect, everyone would have to see it as the perfect game. And that could only happen if it was on the system that they prefer.
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Terminal at 1:41PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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The blog was clearly taken from a Wii blog.
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Inkmonkey at 2:01PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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Cross-platform games have been that way in the past... but that doesn't mean that all cross-platform games will be that way. My point is that I would not enjoy a Wii game, therefore it would not be the perfect game for me. Many people would not enjoy a PS3 game, therefore it would not be the perfect game for them. A large number of people would not enjoy an XBox 360 game, and it would not be the perfect game for them. In order for a game to be truly perfect, everyone would have to see it as the perfect game. And that could only happen if it was on the system that they prefer.


Yes, but the idea of a perfect game, as described in the blog clipping, is that, whatever the game is, it is truly, honestly Perfect in the truest sense of the term. This "Impossible Game" would have to be so unbeleivably better than anything else ever created, that people would not just enjoy it, but absolutely LOVE it, no matter what system it's on. Since that's not going to happen, that's why the rant is that no game would ever really deserve a 10 as the original poster defines it.

And FYI, Shplane and Terminal: if you two are going to keep arguing, take it to PMs.
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Bekefel at 2:08PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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Cross-platform games have been that way in the past... but that doesn't mean that all cross-platform games will be that way. My point is that I would not enjoy a Wii game, therefore it would not be the perfect game for me. Many people would not enjoy a PS3 game, therefore it would not be the perfect game for them. A large number of people would not enjoy an XBox 360 game, and it would not be the perfect game for them. In order for a game to be truly perfect, everyone would have to see it as the perfect game. And that could only happen if it was on the system that they prefer.


Yes, but the idea of a perfect game, as described in the blog clipping, is that, whatever the game is, it is truly, honestly Perfect in the truest sense of the term. This "Impossible Game" would have to be so unbeleivably better than anything else ever created, that people would not just enjoy it, but absolutely LOVE it, no matter what system it's on. Since that's not going to happen, that's why the rant is that no game would ever really deserve a 10 as the original poster defines it.

And FYI, Shplane and Terminal: if you two are going to keep arguing, take it to PMs.


You tell it to 'em honey!

--I mean yeah, you might think the way to a perfect game would ever exist if they realeased a collaboration of the Xbox, the PS3 and the Wii. Even then people would moan that Sony did a bad job of the graphics or that Microsoft didn't fund into it enough or something. You can't possibly make a perfect game in everyones eyes. Everyones perception of 'perfect' is different. One person in the world may think that Vampire Rain is the perfect game. Sure, they must be pretty retarded to think that. But you can just about know that somewhere, someone is thinking it.
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fern at 5:51PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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One person in the world may think that Vampire Rain is the perfect game. Sure, they must be pretty retarded to think that. But you can just about know that somewhere, someone is thinking it.


That's probably the same person who thinks Battlefield Earth is the greatest Sci-Fi movie of all-time.
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marine at 7:31PM, Sept. 30, 2007
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I think everybody that played or saw someone play a game like Gears of War or Resident Evil 4 and wasn't a complete pussy, loved it. Gears of War to a lesser extent, but it was still a damn fine game. The thing I didn't like about Gears of War was that you fight the same guys throughout the whole game. Only one real boss battle at the end. But dammit that was a great game. Resident Evil 4 was just shy of perfect. It was similar to Gears in that you basically fight the same guys over and over again, but throughout the chapters in Resident Evil they change costumes and weapons a few times. In gears of war, about three ways in a guy in a different costume with a different weapon (the very cool toruqe bow) shows up, but its still the same guy. Both games get really fun on their harder difficulty setting.

The new Zelda looked amazing, but all the puzzles and challenge was pretty easy. But as it is, the wii games I've played feel like mini game collections and not actually games. The wii version of RE4 wasn't as great as the Gamecube one. I think the wiimote is a complete gimmick and playing with it for more than a short amount of novelty or mini gaming is difficult.

From what I saw in the Blue Dragon demo, I was able to skip the story cut scenes. I'm a man who likes RPG battles and leveling my characters well over 9000 status. Thats why Final Fantasy Tactics was so great. And it appears that Blue Dragon has similar leveling up.
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mlai at 9:22AM, Oct. 1, 2007
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The best RPG ever, of all time, in terms of only the battle system, would be the Grandia series from 2 on up. Nothing comes close. Nothing from Square, from Enix, from where-ever.

Marine, I trust you have played Grandia 2, Xtreme, and 3. Correct? If you haven't, you need to (start with X or 3).

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Bekefel at 9:24AM, Oct. 1, 2007
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The best RPG ever, of all time, in terms of only the battle system, would be the Grandia series from 2 on up. Nothing comes close. Nothing from Square, from Enix, from where-ever.

Marine, I trust you have played Grandia 2, Xtreme, and 3. Correct? If you haven't, you need to (start with X or 3).


Ah Grandia 2. Pure quality right there.

Ryudo?
Please, please, you give me too little credit.
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Any game that disables the system it's being played on and then subsequently disables nearby electronics does not deserve a 10 rating.

That game sucks
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Any game that disables the system it's being played on and then subsequently disables nearby electronics does not deserve a 10 rating.

That game sucks
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Priest_Revan at 12:58PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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I think I have to agree with the original article.

No game, no matter how awesome, should be a 10/10. I mean, no game is pure perfection (even if I dream KOTOR is perfect everyway).

Every game has flaws, but I think if a game does get a 10/10, it should be compared to the games we have now instead of those that we hope and dream about coming out in the future (virtual reality).
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Hawk at 3:46PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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But if a 10 score should never be used and can never be reached, shouldn't they just be using a scale of 1 to 9? The 10 is there for a reason.
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Inkmonkey at 5:36PM, Oct. 1, 2007
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With that in mind, I figure that a "Perfect" game wouldn't be hindered by the 1-10 score. Ten would be the score for just a really good game, a perfect game would be, like 11.
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