We've all heard their names vaunted in the forums. They are every nerds bread and butter. You know who they are.

I actually like a a lot of these characters, it's just, well, they're a little bit tedious at times. For example, I think the most over blown character is either Batman or Wolverine. Both powerful forces of good, to be sure, but still... they seem to be overdone, a bit.

I hate Cable.

Luckily it seems everyone hates Cable these days, so I don't have to worry about the glowy-eyed bastard much anymore.

Morpheus and Thessalie. I love Sandman, but egads how I hated those two. Especially Thessalie. She so didn't deserve her own series.

Wolverine, Batman, Gambit (oh, how I loathe Gambit).. the list goes on! But that's all I can think of at the moment...

Gambit or Wolverine.... Atleast Wolverine was cool for a while. Oh and Phantomex, yes Grant we know you are taking the piss out of 90s psuedo fashionable superheroes but he is still a showey prick.

I think Wolverine is still holding onto some semblance of coolness...if it weren't for Smallville, would anyone still care about Superman?

Yes. A lot of people would care about Superman. As a matter of fact, most Superman fans that I speak to on a regular basis consider Smallville to be the least significant of available Superman media.

Like all comic character with that much history, both Batman and Superman have potential to be great characters.
I love when Tim Sale and Jeff Loeb get to write Batman. I loath when Frank Miller does recently. All-Star Batman and Robin is just so... crap.

A good Superman story usually focuses more on the internal struggle, yet has some cool external ones going on as well.

Yeah, Batman The Long Halloween and the follow up Batman Dark Victory were some of the best comics I've ever read. Unfortunatly Loeb's 'Hush' didn't seems as good to me. I guess although Jim Lee's art is awesome, it just doesn't go with Loeb's style or doesn't bring anything new to the table.

...I liked Hush... plus the Riddler turned out to be the co-mastermind, which is just awesome...

~IJ

Well, I haven't finished Hush yet, but the first volume seemed pretty sub-par story wise.

Well, it picks up the pace in the second volume. Besides, it's freakin' Batman; no offense, but we're not talking Tolstoy here. Anything off of the well-worn "bad guy does something-- Batman beats him up-- everybody relaxes-- bad guy escapes again" plotline can be seen as an improvement.

~IJ

PS: I do hope I haven't ruined the ending for you... still, you won't believe who or what "Hush" is...

Batman. Especially at drunkduck with all the comics he's in here.

Ian Jay
Well, it picks up the pace in the second volume. Besides, it's freakin' Batman; no offense, but we're not talking Tolstoy here. Anything off of the well-worn "bad guy does something-- Batman beats him up-- everybody relaxes-- bad guy escapes again" plotline can be seen as an improvement.

~IJ

PS: I do hope I haven't ruined the ending for you... still, you won't believe who or what "Hush" is...

They sorta didn't answer that question. I mean, I guessed who they eventually said Hush was in the first book (a certain expression tipped it off) but it seems like they also left it unresolved. Bleh, stupid 'epic' storylines. Joseph Loeb was his best when he worked with Tim Sale.

Wolverine. You just can't kill this guy! He got disentegrated, thrown into a sun. Hell, he even sliced off parts of his skin for food when he was living in the mountains for a while! There has to be somekind of a limit to a mortal's regenerative chromosone.

Spider-Man has been pretty overblown for awhile.
New powers? A new suit? That doesn’t sound like a marketing gimmick at all! Where do I sign up!

I have ALWAYS hated Superman. Always, in every format. Yes, he was amazingly strong and saved the world, but that was really it. There was no inner dimension to make his character more rich and exciting. There was the kryptonite, but I always found that kind of stupid. Perfection bothers me, and I felt they made him too unblemishable. Spiderman and Batman were always more interesting to me.

And of course, there's always Space Ghost :wink:

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE GHOST!

~IJ

Loki Coyote
I have ALWAYS hated Superman. Always, in every format. Yes, he was amazingly strong and saved the world, but that was really it. There was no inner dimension to make his character more rich and exciting. There was the kryptonite, but I always found that kind of stupid. Perfection bothers me, and I felt they made him too unblemishable. Spiderman and Batman were always more interesting to me.

And of course, there's always Space Ghost :wink:

Which Superman stories have you actually read? It sounds like not any good ones. The best superman stories focus on the internal struggles he faces.

I haven't read any comics with Superman where he faces inner conflict. I've read the very first five Superman comics, the later ones with Supergirl, and a few where he fought giant robots.

Since he gets all eight of his powers, (super speed, super strength, super breath, super hearing, flight, invunerabilty, heat eyes, and x-ray eyes. Does he have any more?) from a yellow sun, if he was, say, under a green sun or blue sun, would he get totally different powers? If our sun was closer to earth, would his powers get enhanced?

Frankly, while I am in many ways an uber-nerd, I just don't give a care about 99% of superhero comics in america. I used to like Flash, but after a while, I was just feeling "Wow he can run fast, woop de doo. Oh, now he's fighting a 12 ft. tall murderous gorilla, wheee."

I wouldn't have such a problem with Superhero comics if they didn't have a stranglehold on american comics. Seriously, sometimes I don't want to read about some guy saving the world.

In regards to your question, then, I believe almost all super heroes are overblown. That's just my opinion though.

magickmaker
I haven't read any comics with Superman where he faces inner conflict. I've read the very first five Superman comics, the later ones with Supergirl, and a few where he fought giant robots.

Since he gets all eight of his powers, (super speed, super strength, super breath, super hearing, flight, invunerabilty, heat eyes, and x-ray eyes. Does he have any more?) from a yellow sun, if he was, say, under a green sun or blue sun, would he get totally different powers? If our sun was closer to earth, would his powers get enhanced?

Uh oh, don't let DC hear you.

"Superman: Blue Sun"