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Importance of practice
JustNoPoint at 10:46AM, Oct. 10, 2007
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Above is the 1st page of my very 1st comic I started making when I was 12 years old.
I started making comics after I bought my 1st TMNTurtles comic.
It was pretty much a rip off. I later made a Ren & Stimpy rip off comic.

Then I decided to try to make something a bit more original and not based on something I watched.
I was not very good at drawing people so I looked to anime as my influence to draw.
I was/am a big fan of Ranma and that style looked pretty simple to draw to me so I tried drawing my human cast I came up with in that manner.

The 1st 2 characters I made up were Fenny and Sally
and here are the horrendous 1st renditions.


And here is how they look now.



I took about a 5-6 year hiatus from drawing much of anything from around 2001-2006 which I regret very much now. I was still working on story and character designs but had another hobby that was my main focus.

Anyway, now I am trying to get back the lost time. I put more effort into my art than I ever did before.

mlai
The obscene amount of voluntary effort I (and like-minded artists) had put into practicing drawing is a major reason why I'm very biased against ppl who say things like "story is as important as/ more important than art to me," or "I'll read it as long as it has a good story," or "I'm not drawing the comic for the sake of good art, I'm putting forth a message/ telling my joke/ telling a story." That makes me dislike that person immediately. It's like these ppl don't have a clue how much sweat and blood artists put into themselves to improve.


People that always rely on the "story is more important than art" aspect usually are not happy with their art. I know that applies to myself in a sense.
Many people are not patient enough to dedicate the proper time to art.

I like to draw. I like the challenge of taking on a certain pose or character design. I like to see if I can surprise myself. But if I had enough money I would draw the pages out and let another, much better, artist actually make the official pages.

To dedicate as much time to art as you and others do is a testament to your determination and drive. I wish I had put forth that much effort growing up.

So now I have a lot of road to catch up on. I want to improve on art and I want to actually get the story rolling. Not so much that the story is more important than the art. Since I'm using the art to tell the story... story > art is a silly statement.
If the story is THAT IMPORTANT then a person should write a book =P

Luckily you also have a real good grasp on story telling formulas. Many authors that pain for years to perfect their craft seem to forget to research story telling and characterization. Too busy honing their artistic skills, then can't make a comic properly.

And your line art may not be as good as it was... Because you developed and researched your CG and probably have been researching story telling and so many other aspects of comic making. As to make yourself a very well rounded comic creator. Otherwise you would be somewhere else making random art and stuff (theoretically =P)

Read "The Devon Legacy".
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bryan at 10:14PM, Oct. 10, 2007
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Well... personally, I think practice is very important and roughly practice 1-2hrs a day if I can swing it.

Here is an example, and the lapse in these is about 3 years:


I definitely think I've improved over time due to practice :)
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kyupol at 6:20PM, Oct. 11, 2007
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@JustNoPoint

omg... wow.

I wish I didnt forget to bring my old old artworks from my old house in the Philippines.

I have it all there. All the Brood Knight I've been doing since age 14. lol!

NOW UPDATING!!!
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Frostflowers at 5:07AM, Oct. 16, 2007
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This is an interesting thread to look at. :) I'm improving with practise as well, and though I can't find my oldest art (which was drawn on scrap paper back when I was 5 and excessively drooled upon), but I have got some art on my dA account from back in the beginning of last year.

Old stuff:
http://smokewithoutmirrors.deviantart.com/art/C-zar-scrap-30959858
http://smokewithoutmirrors.deviantart.com/art/Alchemist-25717462

Newer stuff:
http://smokewithoutmirrors.deviantart.com/art/Of-Fishmonsters-and-girls-66812734
http://smokewithoutmirrors.deviantart.com/art/Brown-Paper-Pirate-67299290
http://smokewithoutmirrors.deviantart.com/art/NaNoWriMo-Wallpaper-67457412

The difference is pretty radical - mainly because I've taken some lifedrawing classes since - and all I can say is that practise might not make you perfect, but it makes you one hell of a lot better. I do need to take more lifedrawing classes, though. I've got a long way to go.
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Phunin at 6:58PM, Oct. 16, 2007
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3 Years ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Enoki/Photo_2004_10_16_13_11_46.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Enoki/MangaPage3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Enoki/botb-realpage1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Enoki/Photo_2004_10_16_13_44_58.jpg

2 Years ago:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/Nenchi/coloring.jpg

1 Year ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/Enoki/Intropagecopy.png
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3617/gunneragain2copygt6.png [img300.imageshack.us]

First:

Last:


Don't have any uploaded art of this year, though, I know have have gotten better. All of the above aren't really, accurate of what I can do but yeah....... If you seen the thread from the website I went to and got the idea from, you guys would be jealous. It took only 3 years for one of the members to go from literally noob to pro -.-.
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mlai at 9:28PM, Oct. 16, 2007
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We ain't jealous of nobody. Cuz nobody ain't better than us.

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Phunin at 5:43AM, Oct. 17, 2007
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Getting from this:


To this:


In 4 years is reason enough to be atleast a little jealous to me -.-.

(pictures taken from polykarbonbbs)
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bryan at 1:54AM, Oct. 18, 2007
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mlai
We ain't jealous of nobody. Cuz nobody ain't better than us.


But what of THIS quote?!

mlai
Nobody is better than I.


This quote which may or may not be real...


Ok, ok, it's not real :(
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kyupol at 10:04PM, Oct. 19, 2007
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Phunin
Getting from this:


To this:


In 4 years is reason enough to be atleast a little jealous to me -.-.

(pictures taken from polykarbonbbs)


lol I feel so PWNED with regards to improvement rate. :(

Though I can guarantee myself... that I'd be able to hit that level if I do 6 months - 1 year of art courses straight at a private school (costs $$$ though) As in... with the same high level of motivation I had back during the 2001-2003 time period. That was when my art improved with a huge leap. During 2003-present... it improved though at a very very little rate. :(


NOW UPDATING!!!
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