I've been meaning to make this thread for months now. Back in October my BFF FOR LIFE Tater Salad sent me Persona 4 (complete with art book!)

I rarely play RPG's, specially JRPG's as I find them to be too similar. Not only that but bubbly over the top voice acting is a major turn off, and it seems to be the norm for JRPG dubs. Not to mention my last true experience with JRPG's was Xenosaga (and I dont think I need to explain what was wrong with that game).

Persona 4 is not just a great game, but the only RPG I've pour 80 hours into, solved every puzzle, completed every task, and maxed every character for. This game owns. The voice acting is spot on, never becoming too over the top, yet cartoonish enough to add a sense of brevity. It's really a game I think everyone should pick up and try at least once.

Since then I also picked up Persona 3 FES with my extra birthday monies (also with art book cause for 30 bucks you're an idiot to not pick up the best deal for this game). I was surprised that it's actually better than Persona 4. Though it has a much darker tone and sense of utter danger, the characters are every bit as interesting, the acting is ever more spot on, and the gameplay is just as great. Plus beating the shit out of STREEGA just gives you a smug sense of self satisfaction.

I cant reccomend these games enough. It's like a dating sim with importance mixed with some adult version of pokemon. Both games will net you close to nothing, in fact buying both with their respective art books will cost you about as much as buying a brand new PS3 or Xbox 360 game.

Any game that lets you summon Satan in order to fight the greek goddess of darkness is awesome. 10/10 555 Golden Man Babies Seal of Approval

Before picking up either game, here are some helpful tips

Persona 4:
Max out every social link to avoid getting one of the many lame endings.
Do grinding on rainy days for additional bonuses, while using every other day for S. Link grinding.
Dont put Taro into the TV like Yosuke's retard ass wants you to. The resulting cut scenes are terrible and filled with dread.

Persona 3:
Max out the online game S. Link and then go to the lounge after the final boss for one of the best follow-ups to an S. Link pretty much ever.
Pray as much as you can early on to max out your attributes, you cannot date SEES members until certain ones are met.
Mitsuru is a bitch. This isnt a tip it's just fact.
Robots apparently have sex by touching computer chips. I guess thats a tip if a hot robot ever lives with you.
At one point Tartarus will seemingly end (you'll know when this happens). It has not actually ended. Return after the next full moon unless you want to get stuck clearing 50 some floors on your last day.
Unlike P4, you do not need to max every S. Link to get a "true ending".

Now go buy these games.

A Persona thread?

okay you are now my best friend ever. those games are amazing.

I played P3:FES before P4, and honestly I think P4, at least in the gameplay, is better. It isn't nearly as dark, but all of the problems that Persona 3 had were fixed so well in Persona 4. like the whole controlling the other characters thing.

"no you can't control the other characters you'll just have to rely on their dumb as hell AI. hey Mitsuru, don't bother healing the MC, just use Marin Karin again! because it totally worked all those other times."

and the other characters in Persona 4 seemed a lot less 2-dimensional than the ones in Persona 3.

lefarce
Robots apparently have sex by touching computer chips. I guess thats a tip if a hot robot ever lives with you.

fffff I maxed out Aigis' link JUST to see that scene. I was torn between going "awwww" and laughing my ass off.

While Aigis' thirst to learn about human culture and ultimatly sexuality is arousing and amusing, we all know Yukari is the games true "hyper mega slut". Always liked Fuuka though. She has this deer caught in the headlights charm.

Kinda like this :V



I didnt mind the auto-battle system in P3 too much. So long as you knew who to keep around and when to use them, they would generally act the way you want. Although I'm glad someone else had the same problem with Mitsuru casting Marin Karin constantly. My star team was always Mitsuru (made her heal to fire so she was pretty much untouchable, and would later wipe the floor with Jin), Akihiko, and Aigis.

P4 my powerhouse was Chie, Yosuke, and Teddie :3

Playing through P3 on New Game+ with a maxed out protagonist, satan, and the best weapon you can equip yourself with is making me feel pretty smug. I dont know why but about a month ago I got an urge to just go back and play the games again.

Played both games, and they were definitely nothing short of awesome. I personally prefer 4 over 3 if only because I like to have complete control over my dudes.

also

Someone
Persona 4:
Max out every social link to avoid getting one of the many lame endings.

I don't think you need to max every social link, just talk to whatever ones are maxed out at the end of the game to get the true ending.

I did that and I got nothing. : \

Either way, getting all S. Links and the real ending did give me a smug sense of self satisfaction.

EDIT: I think at the very least you need to have your party's S. Link's maxed, otherwise they wont take a deathblow. Course I'm just gussin'.

I've been playing P4 recently under the situation where I play and my friends watch. One of them forbid me from playing over the summer though so they don't miss anything. So, I've been at the sauna level for the past 2 months.

I need new friends.

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/07/24/persona-continues-its-adventure-on-ps3/#more-36045 [playstationlifestyle.net]

This article better be true because I will buy that game in a heartbeat. Persona 5 on the PS3?


FUUUUUUCK YESSSSSSS

EDIT: Although it does have a lack of resources and may be total bull, I would like to be left alone with hope and wishful thinking (hey, ignorance is bliss).

lefarce
EDIT: I think at the very least you need to have your party's S. Link's maxed, otherwise they wont take a deathblow. Course I'm just gussin'.

I didn't have Naoto maxed out and she still took a blow for me in the true ending, so you don't have to have your party maxed.


Also, PSP Persona 1 coming out in September. Granted, P1 and P2 are completely different from P3 and P4, but they're still fun.

I've been hearing rumors about Persona 5 for a while now, but nothing concrete. I understand Atlus is actually working on a new MegaTen game, but it's not Persona and it's for the DS.

I dont know then. I was told by several people that I had to max every S. Link to unlock it, so that's what I did. It's still worth it though. The first ending was just really bad. Even if you're unaware of the true ending, it just feels like you've only accomplished something minor, and that nothing has really solved it's self. Although it may have something to do with the whole "mystery" being a crash course in common sense.

IIRC there is a megaten game that's been in the works for the PS3. Could be Persona 5, but most likely a more standard edition to the series. While it's true that there has been nothing solid in terms of a P5 annoucement, at least this one specifically mentions it. The others have been "oh well we're producing a new megaten title on the PS3" which has been taken as "MEGATEN MUST MEAN PERSONA!"

Persona 1 sucked pretty hard btw. Not even in story, graphics, and overall presentation. The gameplay was just awful and from what I understand little of it besides the cutscenes are getting changed. I'll probably buy it because I'm a whore for these games, only to get dissapointed all over again. Really the series is much better if you play from 2 upward, forgetting that 1 ever happened.

EDIT: Naoto was foxy, but holy fuck did I ever want her an Rise to shut up.

I heard that the battle system had been revamped, but I can't remember where, so I'm not sure if it was reliable. I also know that aside from cutscenes, they also have a new soundtrack, menu style, and localization.

I'm pretty sure most of the PS3 MegaTen game rumors are just that. They started back when the PS3 first launched, and there's still been no evidence whatsoever that such a game exists.

LIZARD_B1TE
I heard that the battle system had been revamped, but I can't remember where, so I'm not sure if it was reliable. I also know that aside from cutscenes, they also have a new soundtrack, menu style, and localization.

I'm pretty sure most of the PS3 MegaTen game rumors are just that. They started back when the PS3 first launched, and there's still been no evidence whatsoever that such a game exists.

I really do hope a megaten game is in development for the PS3, even if it is just wishful thinking.

And if it has all of that revamped I might get it. I just hope you still dont walk around in first person, cause that was just the dumbest shit ever.

lefarce
I just hope you still dont walk around in first person, cause that was just the dumbest shit ever.

That parts the same, actually.

lefarce
Persona 1 sucked pretty hard btw. Not even in story, graphics, and overall presentation. The gameplay was just awful and from what I understand little of it besides the cutscenes are getting changed. I'll probably buy it because I'm a whore for these games, only to get dissapointed all over again. Really the series is much better if you play from 2 upward, forgetting that 1 ever happened.

Although my opinion isn't as harsh, I'm inclined to agree. The first Persona borders on barely comprehensible. I remember playing it as a teenager, more or less enjoying it (and it's pretty hard to boot) but most of my fascination came by a sensation that I was trying to riddle out a Rosetta Stone of sorts. The characters are kind of shallow and the combat is definitely dry compared to the modern era of Persona games. And that last boss... c'mon, 'Super Guido'? Terrible. I couldn't stop laughing. And graphically, the game wasn't even good for the era.

Still, I held it as a memorable, if bizarre game.

(I want another Nocturne, dammit! Bloody masterpiece is what it was.)

Persona 2 meanwhile is leaps and bounds over Persona 1. Joker was a badass opponent, and the only major fault was the menus within menus within menus. I still favor the more recent PS2 era games though, and I hope Persona 5 sticks to the S. Link system (I see no reason why it wouldnt).

I have to admit, I never tried any of the new Personas because I had played Persona1 back in the day, and it wa so awful, so borderline unplayabled, that I just dropped any interest in the franchise. In fact, I remember hearing that they'd gotten up to 4 (somehow never hearing a thing about 2 or 3) and just being shocked that they actually made a sequel to that piece of crap, let alone 3. It was kind of the same feeling I got every time one of those "____ Movie" films come out: if the last one was so bad, who would approve of another one?

Now everyone's all over the Persona series like a hobo on a ham sandwich, and I just feel left out.

The games have gotten a lot better since Persona. Really I'm more shocked that they're releasing that game on the PSP as opposed to Persona 2, which was not only better, but missing one version in the US.

Any game that lets you fight a Lance of Longinus wielding Hitler is awesome.

Chernobog
Although my opinion isn't as harsh, I'm inclined to agree. The first Persona borders on barely comprehensible. I remember playing it as a teenager, more or less enjoying it (and it's pretty hard to boot) but most of my fascination came by a sensation that I was trying to riddle out a Rosetta Stone of sorts. The characters are kind of shallow and the combat is definitely dry compared to the modern era of Persona games. And that last boss... c'mon, 'Super Guido'? Terrible. I couldn't stop laughing. And graphically, the game wasn't even good for the era.

You do realize the english localization was a horrendous Macekre [tvtropes.org], right? From tvtropes's description:

TV Tropes
For one thing, they lightened the skin tone of most of the character to make them look more ''Caucasian''. Worse, they completely changed the race of one character, turning him into a jive-talking black guy. They also removed an entire ten-hour Bonus Dungeon because they thought it would be too hard for western gamers. Also, despite the fact that every character and town are given American names, they didn't bother to edit out the scenery that makes it blindingly obvious that it's set in Japan. Shinto shrines in New York, anyone?

Just because someone made a shitty translation to Revelations: Persona doesnt excuse it's crappy gameplay. It was a bad game in Japanese, it's a bad game in English. A video game is playability first, story second. Revelations: Persona was borderline unplayable.

Secondly Tvtropes is Smug Bastard's Guide to Writing Terminology. Its great if you want to sound smart, but it helps to understand what those phrases mean in practice rather than study. Just because they say a writing technique is bad does not mean it is. In fact every bad technique has good uses, it's up to the talent of the writer to allow the positive to overcome the negative.

Here is one good example: in FLCL, when "this is the correct way to write mackerel" appears on the bottom of the screen. In japan the words "blue" and "mackerel" are similar, but like fuck will an American pick up on that without some pretty lengthy eplaination. So instead, the dialog was changed to an argument about weather the blue robot in question is in fact a robot or cyborg ("because robots are different than cyborgs" ).

Revelations: Persona was translated in a time where the majority didnt get it, whereas now we do. It's a case of retrospect. Yes, now listening to some character's jive talk is borderline racist, but what they did was actually a smart move back in the day that more than likely helped push more copies out into the public. Whiney nerds with their interbutts get all spergy over it later because it's not true to GROLIOUS NIPPON

LIZARD_B1TE-Chan dont be such a baka ^_^

supa kawaii desu ne ka @_@;;


EDIT: Dont get me wrong, for the most part I agree with you, the translation was pretty bad. The thing about Persona was that there was a lot worse with it than just the culture shock is all. Also you're not one of the "whiney nerds", I'm mostly refering to whoever wrote that chunk you quoted from tropes, not you. vOv

Double posting because I would like to get away a bit from the topic of Persona 1's astounding crapiness. It's not very fun to just rant.

I just bought Nocturn today, although I have to wait a week for Amazon to get it here. Thing is, I keep hearing it's rare, but really great. I picked it up for 30 bucks, and am wondering if I got a good deal. I have no idea how much it typically goes for, but I keep hearing "a lot".

Apparently, a used copy is $40 at Gamestop, so I'd so you got a deal.

Also, my earlier post was a response to Chernobog's criticism of the story, not the gameplay. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

EDIT: and sorry about this, but the smug bastard in me just won't let that tvtropes comment slide without linking to this [tvtropes.org].

LIZARD_B1TE
Apparently, a used copy is $40 at Gamestop, so I'd so you got a deal.

Also, my earlier post was a response to Chernobog's criticism of the story, not the gameplay. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

EDIT: and sorry about this, but the smug bastard in me just won't let that tvtropes comment slide without linking to this [tvtropes.org].

Ah, no I guess it wasnt clear enough for me, but I suck at noticing stuble shit, so I'm sure it's more me than you. Also I'm glad I got a bit of a deal. My friend kept screaming at me for two days to buy it "BEFORE IT GOES UP TO 80 BUCKS HOLY SHIT".

Also look at this Tvtrope article I'm not going to read. I take classes at college to learn how to write, I dont read bs wikipedia articles on the internet (cause they really dont teach you much). Sorry broski. Ninja Edit: I'm guessing from the URL it's about how to use the various writing techniques properly, in which case thanks to reasserting something I already said/knew. At least you dont use it like a total idiot like most people.

SO ANYWAY :V

Nocturn. I hear this thing is mind blowingly hard. My pal is still stuck on Dante (imagine my surprise and schoolgirl like glee when I discovered he's in the game). Anyone wanna take bets on how many bosses I'll fight till I try to break my controller and someone's legs?

For the record, no boss in either Persona gave me trouble, except Shadow Yukiko, but only because I hadnt really done much in terms of fusing good Personae. I only really ever died in Tartarus and the TV World, and even then it was rare, or against the reaper. So if I managed to breeze through the Persona series, what are the odds I'll do well in Nocturn?

lefarce
Ninja Edit: I'm guessing from the URL it's about how to use the various writing techniques properly, in which case thanks to reasserting something I already said/knew.

Sort of. It's actually a fusion of two former articles they had called "Tropes Are Not Bad" and "Tropes Are Not Good". It was a response to your comment about "bad" writing techniques, since the article is pretty much about exactly that. You kind of gave the impression that you thought the site was all "THIS IS A BAD THING NEVER DO IT GRRRR!", which is why I posted it.

...Moving on.

lefarce
Anyone wanna take bets on how many bosses I'll fight till I try to break my controller and someone's legs?

7.

lefarce
For the record, no boss in either Persona gave me trouble, except Shadow Yukiko, but only because I hadnt really done much in terms of fusing good Personae.

I only had problems with Shadow Kanji. Then again, I played both those games on easy mode, because I'm a wimp.

Ah, I see. I dont think the site is all "GRR BAD", though I probably phrased that wrong. I just have the same issue with all wiki sites, not just TVTropes.
7 huh? I hear matador is a fucking bitch, and Dante spams you with extra turns, making it damn near impossible to take him down. I've been hesitating on buying the game for some time now due to the difficulty level, and the fact that it really just doesnt seem all that appealing to me. There's something about the graphics that just give me a headache, I think it's something to do with the way the cels are shaded, but I 'unno.

Eventually I caved and bought it, because I think it's high time I play a game with an actual learning curve. Lately I've felt no challenge from video games. Ghostbusters was amazingly simple. Persona 3 and 4 were a cake walk, Disgaea 3 past one little hurdle was also a breeze. I just dont think they make games like they used to.

Kanji never really gave me much trouble, although I think I was cutting it pretty close near the end of the battle. The final boss though was so simple that I was really shocked that I was at the end of the game. The same goes for Nyx Avatar in Persona 3. Although I still giggle like a little girl every time Aigis would put on that downs face of hers and go "HES DANGEROUS". Some of her expressions were really poorly drawn. Junpei was the best though. Junpei is always the best.

EDIT: One day I'll be able to spell. Then I show all of you. ALL OF YOU.

lefarce
I've been hesitating on buying the game for some time now due to the difficulty level, and the fact that it really just doesnt seem all that appealing to me. There's something about the graphics that just give me a headache, I think it's something to do with the way the cels are shaded, but I 'unno.

I thought about getting it, but I can't find a local store that stocks it. Although I am considering getting Digital Devil Saga.

LIZARD_B1TE

lefarce
I've been hesitating on buying the game for some time now due to the difficulty level, and the fact that it really just doesnt seem all that appealing to me. There's something about the graphics that just give me a headache, I think it's something to do with the way the cels are shaded, but I 'unno.

I thought about getting it, but I can't find a local store that stocks it. Although I am considering getting Digital Devil Saga.

Amazon still has it up for about 29 bucks. It ships right from Amazon, so you dont have to worry about a third party seller.

Persona 5 Article

Yeah, it's an obvious joke, but whatever

Boy that sure is some terrible fake concept art

So, since this topic at some point moved away from Persona specifically and to MegaTen in general, anyone here play IMAGINE?

LIZARD_B1TE
So, since this topic at some point moved away from Persona specifically and to MegaTen in general, anyone here play IMAGINE?

Yes. While it's not ouright bad, it is astoundingly boring. Very solid game, but I just could not get into it.

On that note, anyone pick up Devil Survivor for DS? It's not bad, I got it for the art style, and the battles are pretty fun too, but you've got some characters that are interesting(Atsuro, Naoya), and some that are just plain annoying(Yuzu's default response to any situation:"BUT I DONT WANNNAA FIGGHHTTT!" ).