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I really get frustrated with today's "news" channles/programs
ccs1989 at 2:33PM, April 30, 2007
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Fox News is the worst though. Some jerk on Fox News said to Ben Stein "I think I see a chain and sickle on your forehead" when Stein was talking about a way in which he disagreed with Bush. Ben Stein? He's an ardent Republican! They accuse him of being a communist! If that's not baised I don't know what is.


could I see some video link to that? I want to see that for myself.


Fox News was on at one of my Republican friend's houses when I saw this. I can't find the clip on youtube, but it occurred on a program where Neil Cavuto, a Fox News anchor, was talking to Ben Stein and then started shouting at him when Stein didn't agree with Bush about something to do with taxes.
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SpANG at 2:57PM, April 30, 2007
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Fox News is the worst though. Some jerk on Fox News said to Ben Stein "I think I see a chain and sickle on your forehead" when Stein was talking about a way in which he disagreed with Bush. Ben Stein? He's an ardent Republican! They accuse him of being a communist! If that's not baised I don't know what is.


could I see some video link to that? I want to see that for myself.


Fox News was on at one of my Republican friend's houses when I saw this. I can't find the clip on youtube, but it occurred on a program where Neil Cavuto, a Fox News anchor, was talking to Ben Stein and then started shouting at him when Stein didn't agree with Bush about something to do with taxes.

Yeah, basically Stein said it was a good idea for the richest Americans to pay more taxes. So Cavuto all but accused him of being a communist.

For the record, it was HAMMER and sickle, though.
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subcultured at 3:11PM, April 30, 2007
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the rich only care if they're personally touched by laws and wars.

reason why we should send rich kids to iraq and not on some cushy job. real fighting, the maybe bush will be pressured to not take too many risks with our armies. people aren't cannon fodder no matter how much or less money you make.
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Tundra at 10:52PM, May 3, 2007
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I love how much the Chaser's War on Everything pays out american news programs and Australian 'current affairs' programs. They're spot on.
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confusedsoul at 9:39AM, May 14, 2007
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Wow. American news is really a sore subject here.
One thing which really bugs me is how the media filters topics to suit them. A while back some unfortunate person was stabbed in the street, and for the next month pretty much the only deaths reported were on knife crime. The same thing happened when someone was mauled by a Rottweiler, only Rottweiler-related deaths were shown. People do die by other means!

I remember at one point on the BBC the main news item was something about the England squad losing (like that isn't surprising), which took up at least 20 minutes of reporting time. At the very end of the news, the newsreader suddenly remembered "Oh, and a couple of Iraqi's died in a car bombing."Granted it wasn't exactly like that, but when does football take priority over the loss of innocent lives?

Live reports really piss me off. One reporter went live to discuss the new rules regarding the disposal of household rubbish, and for some reason it was so absolutely necessary to be live and film the reporter standing next to a green bin in someone's front garden. There is no need for this, they're simply trying to expand the article in to something more interesting than it is.

The worst thing is the shameless plugging. I live in a fairly quiet area of England so the regional news is normally a few items long, but even on the main one the BBC uses the news to drum up interest in its programs. They make items like "England's schools are failing the children with a poor educational curriculum." Fair enough, it's news. Unfortunately its likely that the only reason its mentioned is because there just so happens to be a program about it later, normally mentioned at the end of the article with "and if you want to find out more, you can watch......" and they're even kind enough to tell you the time its on. If I wanted to watch that program, I'd watch it. I don't expect a news program to shamelessy advertise its own program listings rather than give any information which might be considered informative.
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dueeast at 5:48PM, May 15, 2007
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Let me share a little something:

I studied 4 years in high school and a couple of years in college to be a journalist. I was taught by a "fundamentals of journalism" high school teacher and I made my way to being the News Editor of our high school publication (the editor of the News section), which was no-nonsense "just the facts" reporting. When I got to college, I learned the way things really work in journalism: personal political bias from the main Editor's desk manages to filter its way down to every corner of the newsroom. It corrupts the ethics and leads to its own form of cronyism.

I more or less abandoned journalism as a career and focused on business school, comics and music. I still have practiced some of my journalism skills in e-zines, podcasts and the like but I never again considered it as a job. I've seen in the news networks and newspapers descending down the same paths as the editors I saw in college and I can hardly stand any of them now.

I get the vast majority of my news from Google and the internet.
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Kohdok at 10:29AM, May 21, 2007
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Anna Nicole Smith and Britteny Spears. I work at a Dollar General so I had to stock those kinds of magazines with those kinds of articles, including the *Shudder* National Inquirer. I soon discovered that many of the people I worked with seemed to agree when I said "Why should I about care what celebrities do?" But, month after month, those are the kinds of articles I'd see on the front pages. I even shamelessly asked this question to the people (About five per month) who bought those magazines, even though I have incentive to sell them, and I think I managed to change the minds of a couple of them. It's really quite depressing... I lost my taste for "news" at a young age. NPR, BBC, and the Daily Show are probably the only sources of news I can tolerate any more.

Also, the radio guy asking the question "Do you think Barak Obama poses a threat to the United States" is nothing but slander under the guise of showing how people are uninformed. How would people have reacted if the question had been "Do you think Barak Obama would make a good United States President?" It disgusts me how he could use such insulting terms.
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