subcultured
it's kinda weird to have exceptions...you know if ned holness looked more german than honduran, he couldnt get away with his jokes on cable

people would boycott it like crazy and call CC a racist network. but if it's a person of color people would just thing "ehhhh they were oppressed. so they can say racist jokes"

lets see ari get a show on tv as "the amazing racist"...lets see all the lawsuits and people getting mad.

seems wrong to me. like reverse racism.

Thats why you will never see a guy named Steve Williams making Mexican jokes. People can't stand other people making racist jokes if they aren't a "minority"

i rather do away with any kinds of racist jokes
sure some maybe funny, but it still offends some people.

reason why the movie "birth of a nation" (which was a groundbreak cinematologically, but is contraversial because of its message) isn't shown a whole lot in the public eye

Someone
The film is controversial due to its interpretation of history: University of Houston film historian Steven Mintz summarises its message as follows: Reconstruction was a disaster, blacks could never be integrated into white society as equals, and that the violent actions of the Ku Klux Klan were justified to reestablish honest government . The film suggests that the Ku Klux Klan restored order to the post-war South, which is depicted as endangered by uncontrollable blacks and their allies (abolitionists, mulattos and carpetbagging Republican politicians from the North). This was the dominant view among white American historians of the day, chief among them the Dunning School, but it was vigorously disputed by W.E.B. Du Bois and other black historians of that era, all of whom the Dunning School ignored. Some historians maintained this viewpoint even after World War II, such as E. Merton Coulter's in his The South Under Reconstruction (1947), and it took the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s for historians to rethink Reconstruction and other ideas of the period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation [en.wikipedia.org]

Whoa, that's a real eye opener. I always wondered why his jokes were so entertaining. It didn't cross my mind that he may have been stealing them.

subcultured
i rather do away with any kinds of racist jokes
sure some maybe funny, but it still offends some people.

reason why the movie "birth of a nation" (which was a groundbreak cinematologically, but is contraversial because of its message) isn't shown a whole lot in the public eye

Someone
The film is controversial due to its interpretation of history: University of Houston film historian Steven Mintz summarises its message as follows: Reconstruction was a disaster, blacks could never be integrated into white society as equals, and that the violent actions of the Ku Klux Klan were justified to reestablish honest government . The film suggests that the Ku Klux Klan restored order to the post-war South, which is depicted as endangered by uncontrollable blacks and their allies (abolitionists, mulattos and carpetbagging Republican politicians from the North). This was the dominant view among white American historians of the day, chief among them the Dunning School, but it was vigorously disputed by W.E.B. Du Bois and other black historians of that era, all of whom the Dunning School ignored. Some historians maintained this viewpoint even after World War II, such as E. Merton Coulter's in his The South Under Reconstruction (1947), and it took the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s for historians to rethink Reconstruction and other ideas of the period

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation [en.wikipedia.org]

We watched that movie in my Senior history class. I thought it was pretty funny.
But i'm like that.

Mencia gives me a headache. At first I was into him because of sheer shock value but that only last for so long. The other night he was on and doing one of his classic rants at the beginning of the show but it was so bland that all I could hear was screaming and watch him gesture around so natrually I changed the channel and there he was again on a Bud Light commercial, teaching people how to talk in stereotypical accents for beer. Made me ill but I just changed the channel.

I'm a big fan of George Lopez, I have been since he was on TGIF on ABC and I saw the special where Mencia stole the material. In fact Comedy Central aired their specials back to back. I dunno if it was a coincidence or not but George had a right to be pissed.

It made me sad when I found out Leary stole from Hicks because Leary is really famous while Bill was somewhat unknown when he passed away.

As for Dane Cook, he annoys me too but I watch him because I think he's kinda cute...>_>

Personally, I think Mencia's about to phase out into media obscurity anyway.

Chicks dig Dane Cook because he's a vomit dragon.


No whammys

Someone told me that in America it's ok for comedians to steal jokes because they just do that for a tribute to the original artist. Now is that true, or is it just bullshit? lol!

I don't think stealing jokes makes a comedian bad, it's a little weak but as long as he does a great job at entertaining (and DOES have some own material) it's fine. I agree with Inkmonkey that Mencia's mostly just bad at preforming them (for what I have seen). Stealing racist jokes is also a bad idea, because the persons that came up with it do put in at least some of their own statements or points of view (that also includes being sarcastical about it). It's their personal toughts on stuff. That makes it a little more stupid. I mean a joke is a joke (like for example a simple 'knock knock' joke), but stealing some other guy's arguments to make people laugh is just bad. I don't know if he reguarly does that sort of thing 'cause I don't really know his work.

I do have to say that I find him quite a funny person now that I've seen him in that video, with his weak defending ;) You can't deny that he's at least a little interesting.

kingofsnake
Chicks dig Dane Cook because he's a vomit dragon.

Now THAT is what I call a great preformance. It was hilarious :)

(by the way: if no one gives a reaction on this reply, you're all a bunch of racist scum!)

finally, i agree 100%!!! i hate 'em! (and i'm mexican-american)

I don't really care if Dennis Leary stole some jokes 20 years ago. If that was the price to have Rescue Me today, well so be it.

The point isn't that he's stealing jokes. The point is he steals them from his 'boys' like Bobbi Lee and doesn't give them credit for it... and he does them almost verbatim. And that's why I don't have respect for Carlos.

Joe Rogan has got some mad funny stand up. What I always liked about Joe is that "he calls it like it is." He doesn't pussy-foot around something. If you're a dumbass, you're called a dumbass. If you're a coward on Fear Factor, he's gonna let you know. And if you're a badass in the UFC, he's gonna get on his knees and kiss your manly booty. Mad respect to Joe.

I'm not sure how I feel about race jokes. I'm sometimes offended by them... and I'm white. And I'm sometimes entertained by them. "White dudes say this..." and "Asians drive bad" - these jokes are stupid. They were perhaps funny back in the 70s, back when racial comedy was a no-no.

But comedy is an art form to these guys. It's about being edgy, different, and pushing the envelope... about being innovative. And sometimes race jokes are acceptable... they're there for breaking down walls instead of perpetuating them. But mostly I gotta agree with Subcultured... there's plenty of good material out there that doesn't involve "In the ghetto it's like this...", etc. Race jokes is all dried up in terms of innovation... move on guys.

Take Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy for example. Both made a good living by telling racial jokes. And bother are regarded as comic legends. Let's not forget Mel Brooks and Blazing Saddles. That was one long black joke really. And few people would disagree that Mel Brooks is THE MAN!