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How critical are you over your comic/s?
JillyFoo at 1:12PM, June 2, 2007
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How critical are you over your comic/s?

How much do you fuss over your comic/s' art?

How serious do you take it?

Is your whole day ruined if something bad happened to your comic/s like a harsh comment, files get deleted, in a writer/artist's block, etc...

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StaceyMontgomery at 1:41PM, June 2, 2007
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I do fuss over my comics - and I'm pretty critical of them. I think it's important, actually, if I decide i just like them, I'll stop trying to do better. And I'm sure I can eventually do better.

Criticism only bothers me for a few minutes. I get over it fast - generally, the critics make good points. When they're wrong, they are easy to ignore. When they're right, it just means you have to go back to, well, the old drawing board.
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MetalLuigi at 4:44PM, June 2, 2007
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I'm always critical over my comics. If something is not right I always try to improve it. Even if I have something down perfect I'll still try to make it better.

I think everyone needs criticism now and then just to keep improving. That's why when I ask people to read my comics I always bug them about telling me how I can improve. You just have to get used to people saying "dang...this comic sucks" if you're trying something new.
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silentkitty at 9:58PM, June 2, 2007
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I'm extremely critical of my own work. lol! Like Stacey said, I think it's really important to be looking for ways to improve yourself if you ever want to do art for anything other than a hobby. If you think you're the best artist (or writer) ever and you don't need to improve, then you're going to stagnate, and eventually, both you and your readers will get bored. There's nothing I find more satisfying than flipping back to my old work and seeing how much I've improved - it gives me motivation to keep working harder.

I love getting constructive criticism on my comic, as long as it's helpful. I just ignore people who think a critique consists of "dis comic sux" or something equally as unhelpful. If someone takes fifteen seconds of their time to tell me why they think it sucks or what could be improved, then I'll take their opinion into consideration, and if I agree, I'll either concentrate on improving that area in the future, or go back and fix it. I don't think I've ever had a harsh comment ruin my day, haha. If they're just being harsh to be a troll, they just get ignored.

..Although I have to say getting all of my files erased probably would ruin my day, probably my week. =P Oh god, all that hard work down the drain, lol.
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kytri at 10:32PM, June 2, 2007
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I'm hyper critical of my own work, to the point where I worry constantly about the level of quality in the art, writing, and everything. I don't think I've ever considered it good enough.

I have to try to avoid talking about my comic at much length beyond straight forward questions like "What do you use to tone it?" (the answer is markers BTW) Otherwise I'll eventually end up whining about how everything I've ever made is crap and that I'm a hack or something.

I'm amazed that I stay motivated, honestly.
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Eunice P at 12:58AM, June 3, 2007
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Very critical as well. Sometimes, I would redraw the same panel over a few times if I'm unhappy with the looks and feel of the page.
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Darth Mongoose at 1:26AM, June 3, 2007
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I'm a terrible self-critic. Even stuff I do that I like, I'll never think it's perfect. Sometimes in my worse moods, I'm amazed anybody even looks at my stuff at all! I tend to obsess over criticism, even the stuff I don't believe is true. I think a lot about what I'm not doing right, and I mostly think anything I drew more than a few months ago looks awful unless it was a particularly good piece of work. Any little piece of criticism left for me, you can guarantee I'll be thinking about it for weeks afterwards and nagging all my friends 'do you think I'm doing this badly?'
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Hguyver at 2:21AM, June 3, 2007
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For me it's kinda like buyers remorse. I draw it, clean it up and post it... A couple days later I look back on it and think... "Oh god what was I thinking?" And then I just start obsessing over how people are going to react to it. I've especially been getting that feeling a lot with the story arc I'm currently posting right, now it's really nerve racking sometimes.
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Valid Soul at 9:08AM, June 3, 2007
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I take my comic very seriously. When making a new issue, I always make sure i'm following proper continuity, making sure the sprites make sense (especially for action scenes), and if I find a mistake like a typo in a recent comic, I go back, recorrect that mistake, and republish it.

Whenever i'm faced with criticism, I make sure to fix that and in turn, make the comic better. When someone says it sucks, it kinda devastates me, since i'm always putting myself down in a lot of situations. Of course, if someone complains it's a sprite comic, I'm not too bothered by it, because you can't fix some people's views on that genre.
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danthemancartoons at 9:19AM, June 3, 2007
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It think my own comic rocks, but that is because I look back on what I was doing a few years back and see every comic I draw today is galaxies ahead of what I was doing before in so many ways. And because I only have to look at some of the trash out there to see my own work is at least creative.

I do think there are areas, however, I could do better and intend to work hard at.
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OutofLine at 9:46AM, June 3, 2007
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I usually tend to fuss over my comics until I'm fairly certain that they're good enough to post... but occasionally after I finish the final comic, just before I submit I start thinking along the lines of "Hey, something's not right" and do minor edits like fix the shading until I think they're good enough to post.

But apart from that, webcomic making is only a hobby to me, so I'm not bothered by creative blocks but I do appreciate some helpful advice.
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JillyFoo at 11:34AM, June 3, 2007
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I guess I take it seriously.

I'm more critical over the art of TPCTH than Demon Eater. Yet I care more about critiques over the story than the art overall.

I want to think that after making huge amount of pages and drawings I will get better at the art. Not so much nitpicking over the same page.

But lately I am working on new techniques from some critiques and suggestions from my art class.
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Puff_Of_Smoke at 5:57PM, June 3, 2007
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well when I make a comic I usually think 'is this good? or should I do this? WHEN SHOULD I KILL THIS GUY OFF?!' well I don't think the third thought...

I do fuss over the comic regardless of the fact that it's a sprite comic. I have a goal to get to...

it's 100 comics or bust:P
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EvilJared at 12:44AM, June 4, 2007
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well, since im not the artist for Coalition Of The Reluctant, i pretty much have no control over the art aspect of it. honestly if he puts in a huge penis next to one of my character's face all i could do is say "wtf mann?!!...stop doing that..bastard..." infact he's already added a non-written gay sex scene into one of the panels..which turned a few people off im sure..and he's also randomly put cat faces on my characters, and more recently made the same one have a chioutzu face (DBZ). so pretty much i just give him the script and see what happens with it. i let him get away with it though, cause i like how it looks and he gets the job done.

I'm very critical about my story however, i want to make sure every single line makes sense, sounds good, has no typos, and leaves me with a place to go. one thing i might be able to work on is how fast my story progresses....but not enough people read my comic to tell me whether its a problem or not.
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usedbooks at 5:57AM, June 4, 2007
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I don't care what people say about my art. I work hard at it and do my best, but I'm not any good at it, and I know I'm not. I'm quite happy to take suggestions/help. I do get angry if people simply say something (not just mine but anyone's stuff) "sucks" or tells them what's bad without saying how to make it better. I am a huge critic of my work. Anything anyone could say about it, I've probably said ten times worse.

However, if anyone disses my story, it stings. I feel wounded by that because they are my creations and I take a lot of pride in them and feel they are well done. I've poured too many hours into my plot to have it simply tossed aside. My roommates and I discus my story often, and I think about my characters a lot (even when watching a movie or something, I think about how _______ would react to the situation).
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Anatak at 6:39AM, June 4, 2007
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Yep, Im very critical of my own work... to the point of being unreasonably harsh. I'm sure all artists are very critical though, all serious artists will of course take their art seriously. I'm not really overly sensitive when recieving critism though.
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Roguehill at 10:31AM, June 4, 2007
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Hrm.

Critical of my own work? Sure. The thing is, I used to be SO critical that I wouldn't even DO work. Since then, I learned that it's all really a learning process...I mean, if you do grow as an artist or writer, then you're always going to be looking back at previous work and saying "ugh..."

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I am critical, but I in no way let that stop my from creating.

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spambot at 11:19AM, June 4, 2007
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I think my art is goofy as all get out. I hope to be able to draw for reals some day.

I like my writing while I'm writing it, but like most people, when I go back and re-read it I see a million changes I want to make.

I'm also doing that other comic "Space Waffles ".
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silentkitty at 12:04PM, June 4, 2007
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Roguehill
Hrm.

Critical of my own work? Sure. The thing is, I used to be SO critical that I wouldn't even DO work. Since then, I learned that it's all really a learning process...I mean, if you do grow as an artist or writer, then you're always going to be looking back at previous work and saying "ugh..."

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I am critical, but I in no way let that stop my from creating.

-Dave


:kitty: That's a good point too. Especially in comics, there's a point where you just kind of have to say "okay, that's going to have to do for now" and move on, or nothing will ever get done and you'll be obsessing over page 1 for six months. Try your best, and then take what you've learned from the mistakes you make on a page and keep them in mind for the future.
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dueeast at 2:08PM, June 4, 2007
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I'm fairly perfectionistic but I'm also willing to experiment. If it doesn't work, I've gotten comfortable with throwing a page away. I used to try feverishly erasing and somehow preserve the original page but it just wasn't worth the stress. I demand a lot of myself, though, and will work to add whatever meticulous detail my imagination demands. :dizzy:
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JustNoPoint at 3:44PM, June 4, 2007
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Ugh, don't get me started.

I don't mind others not liking my work much or critiquing it. Sometimes it stings at 1st but I try to keep an open mind on that. I have much more trouble keeping an open mind about my own work however.

I always think I could have done better, especially annoying is trying to keep a decent amount of pages coming out yet maintaining acceptable artwork. I have a huge story I want to tell, many pages need to be hitting the net. But I also have to make sure I am improving and not just flying through it.

Do to time restraints I tend to use the "this will do" mentality and try not to make the same mistakes in the next image. Because I can easily be one of those people that will work on page 1 FOREVER.

I've remade the 1st issue 13 times ^^

Now that I am putting it on the web and people are seeing it the pressure is much worse. I can't really go back and fix stuff because that would be time better spent on making new works that do not have the problems of old. And I sure can't start over now, I hate it when comics keep starting over.

Ugh, quality.... quantity ARG... I've been working on this latest page for almost a week cause it keeps "not looking right". I can't keep doing this but I don't want to give the few readers I have sub par work that doesn't improve.

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patrickdevine at 5:28PM, June 4, 2007
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I'm very critical of my own work, especially of my perspective and draftsmanship. I'm also critical of my writing, I constantly wonder if actions read clearly or if the ideas and concepts actually come through. I'm bad enough that my room mate suggested that I just make a comic about how neurotic and self-depricating I am.
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SilverWordz at 4:46PM, June 5, 2007
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Reading this thread actually makes me feel better. Just because everyone seems to have the same set backs and worries.

After working as a designer for several years, I've gotten used to realizing the point where I need to just let something go out on its own. Yeah I'm still critical about it, but I know that I will always see flaws in my work no matter how long I work on it. Plus I've also realized that most people won't even notice those flaws unless I point them out to them.

So I try not to point them out as well. ;)

Bottom line is, no one will ever be more critical about your work than you, yourself. And that's a good thing, because as lots of people have pointed out, it makes us constantly strive to be better. Every step of the way is a learning process, and every step lets you grow your individual talents. Fear the day you finally look at your work and think it's the most perfect thing you'll ever do, because that's the day your career will be over. There's no more room for you to grow then, and things will get stale.

Well that's just my opinion.


As for my comic on this site, I'm not extremely critical. 7 whole pages up so far, woot! I know I'm not a comic artist. I'm not striving to be one either. I put together my panda story just to do something fun, and because a couple people convinced me I could. I'll keep doing it as long as I'm having fun. And if more people read it and enjoy it, then all the more fun for everyone. Yeah I always see stuff after the fact, and think, man, I should have done it this way, that would have been cool. But I just log it as something learned from the experience. :)

As for obsessing and getting to the depressed stage of critical, I deal with that as a bystander with my boyfriend. In my opinion he has a talent that I could never achieve. Not only does he amaze me with his artistic skill, but he's a true comedian. But he also has a huge lack of self confidence about it all. He's constantly telling me how he thinks he's a hack, how he thinks his work sucks. How he'll never be able to make something people will appreciate and enjoy.

The problem is, he's so caught up in thinking the worst, he's missing out on all the positive. He doesn't see that people are enjoying his work. He puts something on deviant art, he'll have 30 comments all saying how much they like his style, but he'll obsess over the one guy that gives out one critical comment.

Another pitfall he lands himself in, is constantly comparing himself to other artists. Don't do that folks! It's good to look and see how other people do things, but don't try and scale yourself to other people. You each have your own style, your own uniqueness, embrace that. Don't try and emulate someone else. That's boring.

And no matter how much I assure him how talented he is, my opinion only counts as half, because I'm biased, you see.


I dunno, be critical, but don't let that stop you from doing what you guys have a passion for. Have faith in what you do. :)

Holy crap, I'm sorry for the novel! And I'm sorry if I sound preachy.

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