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Holy shit in a cracker! Epic Mickey!
martinlo_23 at 9:52AM, Feb. 27, 2010
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Hold your horses there. You may think, "It's a stupid Mickey freakin'-mouse game1It's for kiddies and pedophiles!" Well, wait 'till you see this.
It's Wi-only. The story it's about The Sorcerer Jed(sp?) when he creates a World, called Cartoon wasteland. He deposits there his forgotten cartoons, eventually, the Disney's old mascot, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, gets thrown there AND... he becomes King of that place. Oswald it's Mickey older half-brother, he gest jealous 'cuz his little brother is more famous than him! The Phantom Blot conquers Cartoon Wasteland AND Oswald hides. Mickey, seeing his half-brotha in danger, goes to Save cartoon Wasteland, well, He likely got trapped there.

My fingers hurt. Anyways, The game it's not gonna be ALL colorful and cheery, no no no, it's gonna be dark, Silent HILL dark. With bizarre monsters, bizarre worlds. I'll pass some videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUa24ZmPkc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgrOdhSKoyw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5qS1dq832k&feature=related

It's gonna be epic. THAT'S pretty much all.
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Kroatz at 10:19AM, Feb. 27, 2010
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Only epic without blood!
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martinlo_23 at 11:12AM, Feb. 27, 2010
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Who knows if there isn't going to be blood?
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ozoneocean at 1:41PM, Feb. 27, 2010
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Haha, nintendo has always been a bit neutered and babyish in that respect. That's one of the reasons I went for Sega instead back in the day. :)

This Micky thing STILL not out? We had an epic thread on it already...

http://www.drunkduck.com/community/view_topic.php?cid=242&tid=49900&p=1
 
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isukun at 11:19PM, Feb. 27, 2010
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Who knows if there isn't going to be blood?


From what I've seen, I can pretty much guarantee there won't be blood in the game. Honestly, the actual gameplay shots don't even look half as dark and creepy as the concept art. I have a feeling this game isn't going to live up to whatever hype it's been getting.
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Hawk at 11:35PM, Feb. 27, 2010
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I have a feeling this game isn't going to live up to whatever hype it's been getting.


That's the only thing I'm sure of.

It sucks to have concept art get leaked. Also, I hate the word "epic". I hate it so much.
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ozoneocean at 12:03AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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I hate the word "epic". I hate it so much.
With a hate of epic proportion? :)
 
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Product Placement at 7:54AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Isn't the whole game mechanic gonna be that you paint your way through the game? I myself don't expect a bloody game and concept arts rarely live up to what they promise.
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Mettaur at 8:48AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Uh, maybe you could paint red all over the place, and It'll look like blood? Ah man, when a game about action doesn't have blood, you shouldn't expect it to be good.
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martinlo_23 at 10:25AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Yes I know, but I can't stop myself feeling that this game CAN be good, looks can be deceiving, don't judge a book by it's cover *cough*Isukun*cough*.
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isukun at 10:57AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Actually, I find I'm pretty good at judging thee things in advance. They usually give enough details to know what to expect. Anyway, I'm surprised this video wasn't posted at the beginning, it gives a bit more detail on the story and gameplay than just slideshows of concept art with music and random text that has nothing to do with the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNcQhdBVGM&feature=related

It seems less interesting to me after that video.
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ozoneocean at 11:30AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNcQhdBVGM&feature=related It seems less interesting to me after that video.
MAN, that looks lame. As bland as the voice of that developer and the boring crap script he's reading from so stiltedly.

Typical cutesy cutesy Nintendo stuff that's always held them back. -In my eyes at least.
Disney and Nintendo = Perfect match.

They need some old fashioned Warner brothers in there to show Micky how to become a proper "scraper". Just watching that vid gives me a sugar headache.
 
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martinlo_23 at 11:32AM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Oh well.
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Hawk at 2:29PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Oh well.


Hold your ground, martinlo!

Ozone hates anything Disney does, and isukun hates anything on a Nintendo system. It's okay for you to be interested in this game.

Anyway, I say you don't judge a game until it's done. That includes getting excited for it. Hang on until they finish it, then wait for reviews.
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therealtj at 2:34PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Actually, I find I'm pretty good at judging thee things in advance. They usually give enough details to know what to expect. Anyway, I'm surprised this video wasn't posted at the beginning, it gives a bit more detail on the story and gameplay than just slideshows of concept art with music and random text that has nothing to do with the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNcQhdBVGM&feature=related

It seems less interesting to me after that video.

I love the last scene how he makes a big deal about choices like whether or not to get a bonus item or kill an enemy or visit a house as though gamers have never been presented these sorts of choices in games before.

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Mettaur at 3:09PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Even though this is not anything big in the gaming industry, little choices like that, it must be a huge step for Disney. Hell, I'm not sure about this game...when it comes out, I'll give my call. If I can convince my family we need to make a trip to gamestop.
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therealtj at 6:19PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Even though this is not anything big in the gaming industry, little choices like that, it must be a huge step for Disney.

Not really even that. I've played a few games by Disney and I remember none of them required you to kill every enemy and they had optional bonus items. These sort of things have been standard in almost every game ever made.

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ozoneocean at 8:19PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Ozone hates anything Disney does
You wound me! :(

Nawww. I just don't like a lot of the crap they've done.
Obviously there are a great deal of things they have done well and are right to be celebrated for. But with things like this... it's a great example of the "Barney"-like philosophy they tend to bring to entertainment media.
(i.e. like the big pink dino suit guy on that show with the awfuler than usual fake smile, the fake happy songs and the excruciatingly choreographed kids with their fake smiles and horrible happy happy acting- Disney isn't quite that atrocious, but they do have an overdose of the happy happy joy disease.)
 
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Chernobog at 10:17PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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Ehh... feeling leery about this. The sketches look vastly better than the gameplay shots. Maybe too much better. I'll wait and see what a more finished product looks like, but this doesn't quite impress me yet.
 
 
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isukun at 10:52PM, Feb. 28, 2010
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isukun hates anything on a Nintendo system.


Really? I recall liking quite a few games on Nintendo systems. Maybe not as many as of late, but there are still a handful. I would be playing Endless Frontier right now if my DS still worked. Stupid Nintendo shoddy craftsmanship. I will admit, I was pleasantly surprised by New Super Mario Brothers Wii (well, as long as I only play it single player, my roommate doesn't share the same passion for collecting everything in a game).
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Hawk at 10:11AM, March 1, 2010
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Okay, both of you. I was just telling him that statistically you two were the least likely to be interested in the game he was talking about, so he shouldn't feel bad that his excitement was met with such negativity.
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martinlo_23 at 4:18PM, March 1, 2010
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Aww. Thanks Hank. It's just that EVERY FUCKING GAME I posted here gets heavily criticed(sp?). :(

Mettaur
Even though this is not anything big in the gaming industry, little choices like that, it must be a huge step for Disney.


Agreed.

Hank
Anyway, I say you don't judge a game until it's done. That includes getting excited for it. Hang on until they finish it, then wait for reviews


It's not my fault to be interesed on more family games when i'm still 12.Mickey Mouse was my childhood hero. Agreed.
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martinlo_23 at 4:19PM, March 1, 2010
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Hawk
Ozone hates anything Disney does
You wound me! :(

Nawww. I just don't like a lot of the crap they've done.
Obviously there are a great deal of things they have done well and are right to be celebrated for. But with things like this... it's a great example of the "Barney"-like philosophy they tend to bring to entertainment media.
(i.e. like the big pink dino suit guy on that show with the awfuler than usual fake smile, the fake happy songs and the excruciatingly choreographed kids with their fake smiles and horrible happy happy acting- Disney isn't quite that atrocious, but they do have an overdose of the happy happy joy disease.)


You also have a point there. Let's give it a chance, shall we?
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ozoneocean at 8:19PM, March 1, 2010
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Okay, both of you. I was just telling him that statistically you two were the least likely to be interested in the game he was talking about, so he shouldn't feel bad that his excitement was met with such negativity.
Maybe so, but from the initial concept art we discussed in THIS THREAD , this thing looked really, really cool and interesting.

What they ended up with in the Youtube vid that Isukun linked to (here ), is a massive come down and a big disappointment, even though the end result is not untypical for either Nintendo or Disney.

It'd be like Ford promising an amazing new sleek, stylish, slim, cool sports car with hyper luxury interior and mind boggling fuel efficiency, showing amazing design sketches and 3D mock-ups... Only to come out with one of their usual dull, boxy, inflated, ugly designs, looking plastic inside, and having the fuel efficiency of a tractor.
It would be very disappointing, but not unsurprising.
 
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martinlo_23 at 8:55PM, March 1, 2010
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Hold your horses there. I know this was already discussed, but it was only the concept art.Okay, we know Disney is crap for videogames, but Nintendo maybe has a hope. You know this game is only being licensed for Nintendo? It doesn't mean Nintendo is PRODUCING crap.New Super Mario Bros Wii, was pretty cool, and I DARE to say it, I like Wii. And nothing you say will change my mind.
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ozoneocean at 9:06PM, March 1, 2010
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It doesn't mean Nintendo is PRODUCING crap.
Of course not! O_O
And I'm sure that even this game will probably be quite fun to play :)

My comments about Nintendo refer only to the look and feel they go for, NOT the quality of their games which is widely agreed to be pretty good.
 
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Hawk at 11:53PM, March 1, 2010
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Maybe so, but from the initial concept art we discussed in THIS THREAD , this thing looked really, really cool and interesting.

What they ended up with in the Youtube vid that Isukun linked to (here ), is a massive come down and a big disappointment, even though the end result is not untypical for either Nintendo or Disney.


That's the kind of thing that takes a bit of perspective. I've seen several motion pictures and videogames through from concept art to their final stage, and I realize that concept art is not so much a blueprint as it is a standard they can hope to achieve. Nearly ALL videogames fall short of their concept art. That stuff is made to set the bar high, and is not usually seen by the average consumer. If you've ever bought a videogame art book, you're mostly seeing the near-final concept art, after the dreamers have been reigned in.

The concept art in the other thread is high concept and was leaked by a careless former employee as he updated his online resume. And it's a shame he did, because we were not meant to see early concept and it would only give us unrealistic expectations of the product (especially when the stuff was made before they decided to put the game on the less-powerful Wii). Like I said before, the one thing I'm sure of is a certain amount of disappointment.

But hopefully, after the disappointment, people will be able to give a fair, objective look at the game. I think it could be good and I'm willing to wait to find out. Warren Spector has made some good games.
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ozoneocean at 12:14AM, March 2, 2010
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That's the kind of thing that takes a bit of perspective. I've seen several motion pictures and videogames through from concept art to their final stage, and I realize that concept art is not so much a blueprint as it is a standard they can hope to achieve. Nearly ALL videogames fall short of their concept art. That stuff is made to set the bar high, and is not usually seen by the average consumer. If you've ever bought a videogame art book, you're mostly seeing the near-final concept art, after the dreamers have been reigned in.
Now that's true , but not exactly what I'm talking about.

The reason my expectations were high wasn't because the art looked good, it was because the art conveyed the impression that the game would be dark, intricate and interesting, almost like something from American McGee (without the blood etc obviously). Instead the final thing looks like every other Disney type Nintendo type game project. :(

That's fine enough as it is, especially for fans of that type of thing (of which I'm sure there are millions), but not for the rest of us.
 
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Product Placement at 5:30AM, March 2, 2010
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Well, it certainly doesn't look as dark as the concept art suggested but I noticed a test animation for that game on youtube. I don't know why but I kinda found the movements to be rather cute. Looked old style animated in a way.

It repeats about half way in.
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The Gravekeeper at 12:48PM, March 5, 2010
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I'll probably rent it when I visit my parents. They have a Wii and I'm just not interested in buying one right now. Not enough games for it that actually interest me and all. Well, that and I'd like the wiimote better if it didn't have a habit of completely misinterpreting the movements you're making from time to time.

Anyway, it's actually kinda nice to see a game that's going to be somewhat darker than the usual Wii fare and will actually have colour to it. Honestly, one look outside your window will reveal that the world is full of bright, vibrant colours. While I appreciate the fact that many games, like any other creative medium, will choose a palette that best conveys the mood of the game it's tiresome to see several "mature" games coming out where the characters are apparently fighting through a constant dust storm.
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