Phillby
Rob liefield is hilarious.

http://progressiveboink.com/archive/robliefeld.html

WOW - These drawings are interesting...from a critique standpoint.

Speaking of which, I think Ozoneocean draws women like Rob Liefeld (Your last post, well said...thanks by the way).

blntmaker
Speaking of which, I think Ozoneocean draws women like Rob Liefeld

lol! Thanks man. :(
I probably do. Only worse.

Self taught mostly. There's been a few instances where other people have helped me out, but they weren't my teachers or anything. My teachers were frigging public school teachers who couldn't teach me basics half the time.

Thinking about it though...the main two people who have taught me were also my teachers at one point...

I'd say 78.342% self taught, and the number opposite that = taught by others.

I have a BFA from the School of Visual Arts in New York City. It's where I met my husband, Mike Dubisch, who pencils this comic http://www.DrunkDuck.com/The_People_That_Melt_in_The_Rain

Rob Liefield is not the best example of a quality self taught artist. A better one is Joe Lisner, who's also a very nice guy. :)

I taught myself. But it's kind of in our blood to have the ability to draw (my family) :D. Pretty much everyone from both sides of my family is an artist xD.

I pretty much taught myself. And going formal after that pretty much slowed down my production and got me out of practise.

I seem ot be getting back into the swing of things now at this new course. But I won't try and go for formal art training unless I absolutely have to in order to get jobs I really want.

I already wasted a year trying. Technically 2 when you consider that I could've been at my current course that long ago since we wouldn'tve had to wait for my course to finish so I knew what qualification I'd be getting... Which turned out to be none.

In fact, if I'd not gone to that art course, I could've finished the course I'm on right now that summer just gone. I would still have perfect incisors, my B12 thingy probably would've been pointed out earlier, etc.

And I'm not the only one to have thought it was bogus. I was just hoping I'd have something GOOD for all the bad that happened.


I didn't even learn at high school. We sat drawing the same plastic fruit in bowls while the teacher sat and did sculpture at her desk. Nobody in my art class had a chance to do it. Not even the kid that stabbed me in the ear with a pencil. His kind usually got REWARDS for being badly behaved.

And if the teacher caught a glimpse of me doign ym own work, she'd usually turn up her nose at it.

It was because that art place was shocked that my teacher wasn't saying how good my art was that I got suckered in.

Self taught, with a yr at the Kubert School added for good measure.

Self taught.

This thread is nonsense. All artists are self taught, some just have formal training or work experience in addition.

Sorry, but I really don't think this thread has anything to offer.

Self-taught, of course.

If I had more leisure time I'd love to take some classes though. I feel like I can do what I need to do alright, but I'm very limited technically.

Nicotine
Self-taught. I started drawing around 7 years ago because a friend of mine drew a lot XD. I've gotten a lot better since then, but of course I could still improve. I honestly could never stand art class; I was never allowed to draw what I really wanted to! D:

That's what happened to my art class. I wanted to learn more about drawing, but the teach' wanted me to research other artists and draw spirals. Fuck her. I'll learn that when I actually want to. I ended up failing that visual arts class because the work was uninspiring and I was left with a bad work ethic. And the bad thing was, that art class was an ONLINE HIGH SCHOOL CLASS. GAGH!

ozoneocean
This thread is nonsense. All artists are self taught, some just have formal training or work experience in addition.

Sorry, but I really don't think this thread has anything to offer.

no ozone!

i was taught formally all the way!!!!

take that!
graararawrawrawrar!






on another note about people complaining about their high school art teachers making them do stupid stuff, i felt the same when i had to do color wheels and all that stuff.

it never clicked until 8 years later i figured out what she was actually trying to teach. i can't really explain how it goes, but when it does, you feel like you've reached another stage of enlightenment.

JoeL_CQB
no ozone!

i was taught formally all the way!!!!

lol! If true, you'd be in the teeny minority :)

One of the big reasons is that even if you really could learn to draw just through training, that sort of training is extremely rare in Western formal education in this day and age.

Mostly self taught through various books and what not until I got into high school and college where learned a lot more about formal techniques.

I think one of the most useful classes I ever took was my college gesture drawing class. Spending hours a day drawing from actual models was an immense help through both a better visual understanding of how the body works and through constant repetition for a couple of hours a day.

I'm the opposite minority. I'm 100% self taught. I never experience any formal or informal training. And because of that, my art sometimes get into "Rob Liefield" quality. I hate it when I see my proportions get messed up and I don't even realize it until certain time later. >.<

I'm self taught but not proud. I think that formal training would benefit anyone greatly, so I'm trying to get into an art school.

Woefully self taught.

I think everyone here is in some degree self taught whether or not they had formal teaching later on.

How about some examples of how we were self taught? Studying the comic books we read? Certain "How to draw" books that really helped us out? Maybe a friend or parent that showed you that one crucial point you were missing that opened up the door of how to draw something?

Personally I started drawing in the fifth grade. Then I moved on to "How draw the Marvel Way" which showed me the basic of drawing with a basic frame work.

I also studied a lot of mangas and bought even more books long before I ever took an art class.

A lot of it was trial and error after that.

I'm self taught but that doesnt really count as to my art being pretty basic most the time.

I'm both, though any artist probably is when you think about it. The courses I took in college were probably the most significant stages in my evolution: at GCC I learned how to do gesture drawings, and at ASU West I learned about artistic composition. Outside of that I mostly drew really bad stuff until I found work by an artist that showed me how to evolve. Some influences that immediately come to mind are Shantae for the Gameboy Color, Hellboy (mostly subconsciously), and Spongebob, believe it or not.

I've been drawing more or less all my life, but the only "formal" training I've ever had was a highschool art class, but to be honest, I didn't really learn anything there. The whole time I was in there, my friends and me worked on a project called Xardio, a comic we created. We got almost done with the first issue when Stargate came out, and the storyline wasw too similar for comfort (the Egyptian gods being aliens was the biggest one, since that was one of the main plotpoints in the comic). But yeah, we did that for our grade, so not much in the way of learning.

It's probably apparent in my style that I haven't had any formal training, but hey, I'm havin' fun with it, and that's what matters, right?

Self-taught, and it's quite obvious. Still don't really know how to draw 8D

I've been thinking of a good example of an self-taught artist and recently I found one... Drew Hayes.


He started publishing Poison Elves (then named "I, Lusiphur" ) in 1991 and this is how his art looked back then. Not bad, but quite uneven in quality.


This is from 2001, ten years later. As you can see it's much better...

I'm mostly self taught, though I have had several art classes over the years. (I took one art class every year in high school, and have taken a handful of classes at community college.)

I'm hoping to transfer to an art school soon, however. It feels like I've taught myself all that I can. Sure, I can still improve, but I feel like I could improve more if I got a degree from an art school. I need the feedback of other artists who are serious about making a living in art (particularly comics). It's pretty hard to get that at the college I'm at now.

Completely self-taught and due to a tendency towards laziness, I haven't really improved a lot. I figure being forced to draw at least once a week for updates will be good for me. (^_^)

Mostly self-taught, but i am taking classes in school and have had a few other drawing classes. Oh and i took an oil painting class. That was great.

Honestly, i would love to take a figure drawing class. That would be ballin.

Mostly self-taught.

I disagree with the "You either have it, or you don't" argument. Art does not suddenly become an impossible concept to grasp if one wasn't born with artistic talent.

I've been drawing since I was in Pre-K and are self taught, but recently I've been looking at how to draw videos on youtube to advance my skill. ^^

KC3Tlifevirus
I disagree with the "You either have it, or you don't" argument. Art does not suddenly become an impossible concept to grasp if one wasn't born with artistic talent.

Indeed. I started drawing when I was about 16. I had no talent and my art looked as though it was drawn by a twelve year old missing one of his arms.


Years of practice have made me less bad. Still not good, but at least my people vaguely look like people, kind of. No formal training here. Wasn't even able to pass a basic drawing class in high school back in the day.

Obviously self taught here.

I used to draw all the time during classes in high school. I wish artistic pursuits were as prized as the other more standard Math, Language, and Science subjects. Just think of how many "doodlers" could have turned into amazing artists had their passion been fostered and not stifled in the school system!