I played Halo on the X-Box and I hated it. The controls especially blew. I couldn't get used to them. I constantly got the analog sticks mixed up and kept getting owned on the easy difficulty.

After playing Halo on the PC, however, I saw that the X-Box title didn't do this game justice. It's much easier for me to control than the X-Box version, plus it looks a hell of a lot more nicer, too. Though driving vehicles is a bit weird, but you get used to it pretty quickly.

The fact that Halo 2 requires Windows Vista kinda blows, though. It isn't even out, right? So, like, unless you have some crappy unstable beta of Windows Vista, you can't play this game? That really sucks. I don't think Microsoft thought this through. Why release a game no one can really play yet? Doesn't make sense.

Well, considering Halo 2 still doesn't have an official release date for the PC and Vista comes out in January, I don't think that will be a problem. Vista will be out long before Halo 2. Quite honestly, I throught the PC version of the first game was pretty half assed. It didn't even have all the features from the Xbox version. Considering the game was originally planned and developed for a PC release, that's pretty inexcusable.

Not sure what you're talking about. The only feature removed from the PC version was co-op play. The PC version has more maps, more vehicles, and checkpoints when playing online. The campaign mode is exactly the same from the X-Box version.

Plus, Halo PC has better control settings. The controls are fully customizable. It has HD support. You're really going to have to say exactly what features were removed other than the co-op.

How about the feature of being the best on the system? Halo1 was the best shooter on any console when it was released. On the PC, it was merely at the middle of the pack.

YourNobody
I constantly got the analog sticks mixed up and kept getting owned on the easy difficulty.

...Please, please tell me that Halo was the first console game you played... please...

Co-op is a pretty big loss, especially when you consider how easy it would have been to include it. Co-op was the major selling point for me on the Xbox game. From the look of things, Bungie isn't even handling the PC port for Halo 2. Not only will it lose co-op as well, the game also won't have any new content. They're concerned it won't reflect Bungie's original intent with the game, especially after the disappointment people had with the two new weapons and six additional levels on the PC version of the first game.

I never had any problems with the controls in the Xbox version. Even my friends who had played PC FPSs previously had little trouble switching over to the controller. Still, there are alternatives even on the Xbox, so it is possible to play the game with a mouse and keyboard, even on the console version (and you can customize your controls any way you please).

It has HD support.

It doesn't have HD support on the PC, it's on a monitor and it supports the monitor's resolution scale. If you've got a fast enough computer, you can get the resolution to go higher than a standard TV, that doesn't make it "HD", though. Plus with the 360, both Halo and Halo 2 DO run in HD (although Halo 2 technically ran in HD even on the original Xbox). So you can get a higher resolution based solely on the fact that a PC monitor supports higher resolutions than TVs. I often find, though, that with the higher resolution, the games actually look worse. At higher resolutions, the limitations of the game more clearly show. Also, with the PC version, you'll have to make compromises to even get those higher resolutions, which kind of defeats the whole purpose if you're turning off the pretty special effects.

Yes, I attempted to play Halo 2 on the X-Box. I had previously played Counter Strike on X-Box and hated that poor excuse for a game. The controller limits the playability of FPS for me. Now, take note of that last sentence. FOR ME. Obviously, the PC version is going to play to some people's strengths and the X-Box version will play toward others'.

By the way, HD is all about high resolution. That's what makes the pixels so small. So if Halo PC does get its resolutions from the monitor, than that makes it HD. Not all games do this. The Sims 2, for example, didn't. It wasn't until I bought the University expansion pack that I could use HD resolutions.

You said that you can't use high resolutions without sacrificing effects, it makes me think you have never played it. I keep all the effects on high and I have it on the highest resolution and it runs just fine. Depends on your computer. Something may not run well on your computer because your processor and graphics card blow. Doesn't mean it blows on everyone else's.

YourNobody
The controller limits the playability of FPS for me. Now, take note of that last sentence. FOR ME.

WRONG! Mouse and keyboard is ALWAYS better for control.

Rich

YourNobody
The controller limits the playability of FPS for me. Now, take note of that last sentence. FOR ME.

WRONG! Mouse and keyboard is ALWAYS better for control.

that's what he said.

You said that you can't use high resolutions without sacrificing effects, it makes me think you have never played it. I keep all the effects on high and I have it on the highest resolution and it runs just fine. Depends on your computer. Something may not run well on your computer because your processor and graphics card blow. Doesn't mean it blows on everyone else's.

Having played it really doesn't matter. My computer CAN handle it, it's only six months old, but I prefer to play my games with my friends. None of my friends are going to buy Halo for the PC when they can get a smoother running version on the Xbox years earlier. Less people buy the PC version, plus like I said before, co-op was a major selling point for me. Drop that and there isn't much point in me buying the game. Most people can't get better or equal resolution on the PC than they can get on the 360, anyway.

By the way, HD is all about high resolution.

On TVs, not monitors. HD is a standard for the HDTV formats. Monitors vary widely based on make and model. There are no "HD" resolutions on monitors, though. Monitors have had higher resolutions than standard TVs since before HD was even a concept. Besides which, most games, Halo included, DON'T support resolutions as high as the high end HD signals.

isukun
Having played it really doesn't matter.

Okay. Obviously you are just an X-Box fanboy and nothing more. A true gamer would never say something so absurd. Playing a game makes ALL the difference. If you haven't played it, how do you know it's bad? Don't be so closed-minded.

If you had played it and you said you didn't like it, I would accept that as an honest opinion. But since you have no experience with Halo PC, your opinion is void.

Also, don't claim the X-Box version is smoother than the PC version. That's just plain ridiculous. Yes, it may be rough on some PC's, but, as I said before, it runs as smooth as silk on my PC.

Well, rather than arguing over which version of Halo is better, why don't we agree on something for once?

Unreal Tournament 2004 > DOOM = Half-Life 2 > Everything else

Rich
Well, rather than arguing over which version of Halo is better, why don't we agree on something for once?

Unreal Tournament 2004 > DOOM = Half-Life 2 > Everything else

But are you factoring in HL2 episodes? If you factor in Episode one and the upcoming episode 2 then I would say:

DOOM = Half-life 2 > Whatever.

Doom will of course always be first, I have yet to see a contemporary game with more graphic death animations than DOOM, DOOM 3 included.

Obviously you are just an X-Box fanboy and nothing more. A true gamer would never say something so absurd. Playing a game makes ALL the difference. If you haven't played it, how do you know it's bad?

First off, it's obvious you don't know me nor have you read any posts I've made in these forums previously. Anyone who's familiar with my gaming habits knows, if anything, I'm not a fan of Microsoft consoles (although I tend to buy everything so I don't miss out on games simply because I don't like the manufacturer of the hardware). Second, no true gamer has difficulty controlling a FPS with a controller, even if they prefer the mouse and keyboard combo. Third, I have played the game on the PC, and the reasons I posted for why I have no desire to play the PC version DON'T require one to play the game to see how it looks.

Also, don't claim the X-Box version is smoother than the PC version. That's just plain ridiculous. Yes, it may be rough on some PC's, but, as I said before, it runs as smooth as silk on my PC.

Try most PCs. Most people don't run out and buy a $500 video card every six months to keep up with the current standards. Most of my friends have computers that CAN run the game, but not as smoothly as a console version built for standard hardware. Not to mention the online component tends to run smoother on live than it does on the PC version. Keep in mind that the majority of people will have hardware that is at least two years old. Only dedicated PC gamers are willing to dump that much money into a rig for gaming, and most of them wouldn't play Halo to begin with when they can get better shooters on the PC.

Okay, okay, everyone calm down. If I see more pointless arguing from you two I'm locking this thread.

Inkmonkey
Okay, okay, everyone calm down. If I see more pointless arguing from you two I'm locking this thread.

It's just two guys arguing over the superiority over different versions of Halo. It doesn't appear to be getting hostile or anything.

As for the PC version of Halo, I can see why the higher resolution and better controls would help. But Halo for the Xbox was pretty easy to control and ran just fine AND had coop. The only real advantage the PC version has is the online multiplayer, which is a waste of time when you got better games like Unreal Tournament 2004 out.

UT2004 > Halo.

Even the online part is kind of moot. If you have a 360, you can play Halo over xbox live with a downloadable patch and you get the smooth online play and better features offered in live which the PC version lacks.

You can play Halo1 online using an Xbox 360? Is it also filled with 12 year olds who scream 'fag', 'n00b', and 'hacker' every five seconds? And does it also have the socialist matchmaking system from Halo2?

Cause ya know, in soviet gaming, match chooses you!

Can't say I've tried the online on the 360. As you probably know, I'm opposed to paying for the right to play games online (i.e. Xbox Live) when I'm already paying for my high speed internet and a router to hook it up to the various systems, PC included, that need access to that connection. I'd rather Microsoft charge $25 extra on the system and made the online service free like everyone else is doing.

I do know it's gotten considerable use and praise compared to the PC online which is pretty bare bones and plagued by the usual lag you get with a game that doesn't restrict players by connection type.

As for the 12-year-old dipshits, you get them on any version of the game. Hell, most shooters in general are going to have a certain number of youngsters playing online. If they can't get it at home, they play in internet lounges. Last time I went to the one near me, some ten-year-old was playing counter-strike and cursing up a mean streak over the headset. Of course, I also come from an area where women buy GTA3 for their six-year-old daughters.

isukun
As for the 12-year-old dipshits, you get them on any version of the game.

Ya see, that's why I love UT2004. The learning curve is incredibly steep and scares away the kidiots.

I'm sure I could find a few for you if you're looking for some kiddies to trounce. You'd be surprised how quickly kids pick up FPSs these days (unfotunately, nothing kills the mood like prepubescents barking orders over the headset in most games).

isukun
I'm sure I could find a few for you if you're looking for some kiddies to trounce. You'd be surprised how quickly kids pick up FPSs these days (unfotunately, nothing kills the mood like prepubescents barking orders over the headset in most games).

I agree that it is rather unsettling hearing some 12 year old cunt bitching about how everyone is a 'faggy n00b haxor' cause he is in last place (ya ever notice the three most common words out of their mouths are fag, n00b, and hacker?).

But Halo is such a simplistic game to learn and play that any little kid could pick it up (DAMNIT BUNGIE! Where is the goddamned ending?!?). Sure, there are even some kidiots on Battlefield and UT2004, but most of them usually give up before long because they can't take the ownage.

Besides, at least on PC games you won't usually be using a microphone unless you are in a clan, at which point the kidiots wouldn't be playing in your games. :)

I know the home players don't use them that often, but most of the internet lounges around here have headsets for the PC games, particularly the shooters. Although for the UT fans, I must admit the kiddies do seem to prefer counter strike to anything else.

Oh yes, CS. I have played it and seen the horror of what sort of people exist on it...

But then again, just like Halo, Counter-Strike is a fairly simple game. This reenforces my belief that most kidiots flock to easy to pick up and play games rather than to stuff that requires any skill.