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DD Review of Shina and Steve
Eggbert at 7:18PM, Nov. 6, 2006
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Geeze. Those mods are such slackers!

http://www.drunkduck.com/Shiina_and_Steve/

(shifts eyes to and fro)
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Darth Mongoose at 3:59AM, Nov. 7, 2006
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When I first saw it, I was totally not expecting to enjoy reading this comic as much as I did...

Artwork:
Very sketchy, and at first it looks like it's just bad drawing, but the actual draftsmanship of the artist is good, the characters are detailed and have decent anatomy, entertaining facial expressions and are seen from a range of angles. The scratchy pencil work makes things a little vague at times, and in early strips the scan quality was pretty nasty, but it seems better now. The text looks wild, but it's legible. The fact that it looks scrappy is kind of charming, but I think if the comic looked a little neater, readership would shoot up. Another thing is the size issue. Sometimes the comic is too wide and requires side scrolling, which can be a pain and puts some readers off.

Script:
This comic does 'crazy and random', but amazingly hits it spot on nearly every time. The humour tackles things that aren't too overdone, comes up with some great little observations and at other times is superbly anarchic. Sometimes the text and images get just a little too wild and it's hard to tell what's going on, but that's really all I can criticise about the writing because I was laughing aloud quite a lot myself.

Overall, I'd say this is great, and if a version with more clean, pro looking artwork were produced (and I know the artist could do it, look at the drawings of Samus from Metroid and you can see there's talent there!) this could probably be as popular as things like 'VGcats' or 'Real Life', because it's just as funny.
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Aurora Moon at 7:31AM, Nov. 7, 2006
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I'll have to coccur with the above poster.

here's a link on how to clean up your scanned sketchwork so that it looks more crisp and nice:

http://www.methart.com/tutorials/cleanscan.html (even though the images in the tutoral was an inked picture, it can also apply to just pencil sketches. I know, I tried it myself.. and it's pretty good for removing that annoying grey smudges and yellow smuges on the parts that was supposed to be white you get from scanning in pencil sketches. I can clean it up in like 7 seconds too!)

of course you can't exactly use the tutoral if you don't have photoshop but other progams out there have simlar tools that you can use to clean up an scan.
which progam do you use? if it isn't photoshop, tell me the progam you use and I'll get you a different tutoral on it.
I'm on hitatus while I redo one of my webcomics. Be sure to check it out when I'n done! :)
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VegaX at 1:09PM, Nov. 7, 2006
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I have become WAY to picky with a comics artwork to be able to read and enjoy this. That is a pity as somewhere under that very rough surface there seems to be a fun comic. With the little i DID read it's pretty fun.

However, i feel that if the comic creator can't be bothered to spend some extra time cleaning his comic up then i can't be bothered to read it.

It might sound harsh but it's kinda insulting when someone just throws togther some scribble (when they clearly CAN draw) and thinks that's good enough for us.

If there is some more effort put in it im sure this comic could turn out great. But as it stands, urghh.

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sandy at 6:14PM, Nov. 7, 2006
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I was kind of curious to read this comic but like Vega said, the artwork was really smudgy and it was hard to read or make any of the images out. I'd say what's there now is good for using as a rough draft, and then if the artist took the time to really work on refining the artwork, I'd say the strip would be far better than it looks right now. It appears to be a very funny cartoon, but it does need a lot of polishing up.
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iagojester at 5:32AM, Nov. 8, 2006
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I hate to say it- but I agree with the above conculsions.
As a pencil artist myself, believe me when I say I understand how hard it is to make pencil look decent on the computer. Often mine sucks. Whenever I upload a comic I first change it to grayscale to take out any yellowing or blue tints. Then I hike up contrast and hit the sharpen button. That helps. It also helps to work with a mechanical pencil instead of those normal yellow school-day pencils. More precision. Less dullness.

Next- try to use the crop tool. Showing the spiral of your binding breaks the illusion that this is a fluid scene. It says, "I scanned in this comic while on my lunch break." God is in the details. ...er... perfection is in the details.
And what's up with the different page sizes? Watch out! Keep in mind that people would like to see the comic on their computer screen without using the scroll bar. No one likes to scroll back and forth. No one. So size it down, or in some cases, size it up. You've got a few pages I can't read because they're too small. Try to keep them all the same size and you have a more cohesive body of work.

Also, you lack defenition of your frames. Try reading Scott Mcloud's "Understanding Comics." It'll explain why the white space between frames is important. If you don't want the white space, you're going to have to think of the entire comic page as one composition, and that takes a little more planning than you're currently doing.

Meanwhile, you have a very comic-oriented eye. (aka, I can tell you read a lot of manga) By that I mean you do a tremendous job picking the appropriate images for each frame. You tell a story with your images very fluidly (well, as fluidly as the sporadic story allows for it). The only problem is of course being able to see those images clearly.

Honestly, I think you should start inking this comic. Your humor doesn't seem to be too bad. And while your story is sporatic, it's hilarious and well written with natural speech. You have a few grammar and spelling mistakes on every page, but I expect that from this kind of comic. And the kind of people who generally read this probably won't notice.

So there you have it. Put white space between frames. Make square frames more even with a RULER. Ink. Check a dictionary or grammar book before writing, and you're set! Hi-ho Silver!

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ccs1989 at 4:44PM, Nov. 8, 2006
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It's entirely possible to clean up artwork on the computer. All you need to do is configure the scanning settings a tiny bit. Then download GIMP and there you go.
But with pages like this it's entirely impossible to make out what is going on. Also your layouts are terrible and the lettering is done very sloppily. It's also hard to tell characters apart.

Clean up your work and only then will you get people to read it.
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