"Comics will break your heart."
Where is that quote from? Why would s/he say that?


I know you all must love comics(why would you be here otherwise.)

But let's play devil's advocate, What are the sad things and bad things about comics?


Or you can be truthful and tell about how comics have once broke your heart.

I think for me it was getting so into it and getting to a point where I just didn't feel like I was doing it right any more. That moment when I decided I just didn't quite feel ready to really put out the work I wanted to was pretty sad. But, balancing that out, I feel closer to where I want to be each and every day that I spend more time focusing in on school and the stuff I think I'm lacking in.

Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth is the most depressing thing I have ever read.
It's also sad that most people still don't respect the comic format.

lba
I think for me it was getting so into it and getting to a point where I just didn't feel like I was doing it right any more. That moment when I decided I just didn't quite feel ready to really put out the work I wanted to was pretty sad. But, balancing that out, I feel closer to where I want to be each and every day that I spend more time focusing in on school and the stuff I think I'm lacking in.

Last Words ending.

Me: 'Do you even matter?'
Comic:'lol whut'


mainly if this comic even matters, sure it's fun to do, but i could be focusing that time on my college and maybe a job.

EDIT: also 'Nana's everyday life' by dan kim was the first and only time i've ever cried reading a webcomic. The ending was so sad ;-----;

i realized that making online comics is pointless ! i still have a stack of 100 or so half finished pages and i'm like "fuck it ! i quit ! " i been doing this crap for 8 years ! tottal waste of time !!! all i am filled with now is anger , so much anger i had a dream that i threw a jack-0-lantern off the porch and yelled at it ! why would i do that?

Webcomic *authors* break my heart when they mysteriously stop updating =[

amanda
Webcomic *authors* break my heart when they mysteriously stop updating =[

I feel that. And double for readers. -- Not ones that lose interest in a specific comic or comics, but ones that vanish from the community entirely without a word. I can't help but wonder how many internet friends/acquaintances actually died without anyone knowing. (Probably very few... But I hate to have no closure on things.) Most of the people who gave me the support and encouragement that I needed so desperately when I was starting out have vanished off the face of the, um, internet.

(I have lots of encouraging readers now, but I can't help but miss those people who were there for me when I showed so little talent and potential.)

usedbooks

amanda
Webcomic *authors* break my heart when they mysteriously stop updating =[

I feel that. And double for readers. -- Not ones that lose interest in a specific comic or comics, but ones that vanish from the community entirely without a word. I can't help but wonder how many internet friends/acquaintances actually died without anyone knowing. (Probably very few... But I hate to have no closure on things.) Most of the people who gave me the support and encouragement that I needed so desperately when I was starting out have vanished off the face of the, um, internet.

(I have lots of encouraging readers now, but I can't help but miss those people who were there for me when I showed so little talent and potential.)

I completely agree with you usedbooks. Being here for four years... I think I went through like four waves of readers and creators that came and gone. Practically none of the original readers are there anymore. There is still a few from the 2nd wave.
It wasn't that bad at the old DD because the people had to come back and update at least once a month(or three months?) otherwise their comic would be deleted.

I think it hurts more when the comics I like to read go on hiatus. It lead me to looking at more comics away from DD, SJ, and CG cause at least there might be a little more commitment if you have to pay for a site.

Man this is such a depressing tread...it's all my fault for making a sad thread. ;_;

Well there's comics that are just heart-breaking by their very nature. Has anyone read Blankets by Craig Thompson?
Then there's comics that are heartbreaking just for me. One of my minicomics, "Playlist" was an unusually happy comic for me yet it bummed me out more than anything else I've ever done. Mostly for the fact that the author no longer talks to or e-mails me and I have no idea as to why.

When I book a flight, I usually tell my co-artist or another DD friend that if they never hear from me again it mean my flight crashed and burned with me on it.

Then they can make the appropriate announcement for me on DD. That about covers everyone on the internet that I'd care to notify. Friends IRL would learn of my untimely demise through other means.

One did confess that she seriously considered making "the announcement" on DD while I'm still on my long flight and otherwise indisposed from noticing/stopping her. I... don't think I'll, um, burden her with this particular task again... ^^;;;

JillyFoo
"Comics will break your heart."
Where is that quote from?

According to The Savage Critic : Charles M. Schultz of Peanuts fame once famously remarked “Cartooning will destroy you; It will break your heart.” Jack Kirby also once remarked: “Comics will break your heart.”

(No, I didn't know. I had to google it!)

JillyFoo
Why would s/he say that?

Judging from the various articles in which it's been used, it seems to have been said in relation to creators' rights and the way in which comic publishers will routinely screw the talent. I don't know that for a fact, though. It may be that those articles were using the quote out of context.

usedbooks

amanda
Webcomic *authors* break my heart when they mysteriously stop updating =[

I can't help but wonder how many internet friends/acquaintances actually died without anyone knowing.

I agree. It makes me sad when a user just goes *poof* from the community and never returns. It's kind of sad to think that maybe something happened to that person. That would be terrible but you know, things happen. We have to expect the unexpected in this complicated planet :(.

JillyFoo
"Comics will break your heart."
Where is that quote from? Why would s/he say that?


I know you all must love comics(why would you be here otherwise.)

But let's play devil's advocate, What are the sad things and bad things about comics?


Or you can be truthful and tell about how comics have once broke your heart.

I do love comics as an artform in all its purity and raw emotion.

The things that break my heart about comics though, is its history. Comics have probably the most brutal history of any artform (save maybe movies). You think of people like Jack Kirby and Bill Finger and John Buscema and Siegel and Shuster and it's all so sad. So many people got stepped on and taken advantage of and never compensated just so the select few can become "legends" (Bob Kane, Stan Lee) Now am I saying those people are bad people? No, thats not for me to judge (plus I loves me some Stan Lee!) But I do think that its worth knowing that there were people taken advantage of.

What am I talking about? well...

Jack Kirby always thought he was being taken advantage of by Stan lee because all Stan did was go up to Kirby and say "here let me tell you a story about thor" give him a couple sentences, and Jack would go off and draw the whole issue from just that little conversation! That's how much of a storyteller Kirby was. But he never got writers credit. So Jack ended up very bitter and it wasnt until much later (the 70s) when Kirby started getting the credit he deserved.

John Buscema was a product of 70s era Marvel Comics. The system back then was set up to make people like Big John machines. They'd do tons of pages at a lower quality and generally werent paid very well. It's also well known that John HATED superheroes and hated drawing them. The guy drew like Michaelangelo but was forced to draw grown men with their underwear outside their pants.

But without a doubt Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson are the saddest of them all. The actual designer of the Batman (he took Kanes crappy originals and made the version we now know as the first Batman) He drew a couple of issues before alcoholism set in and he was chronically late.

So the past of comics is very harsh and frankly, I would not want to have been a part of it back then.

But there is alot of good in comics. Like the internet. Like Todd McFarlane and Co. saying they had enough and forming Image comics. Like small-press publishers allowing small indy creators like ourselves to make our own books. Comics is a constantly evolving artform that, whether the rest of society wants to admit it or not, is on the forefront of pop culture and will always be.

more on finger...

Who? Imagine creating one of the most enduring comic book characters ever, only to die penniless. Such is the case with Bill Finger, the man who co-created Batman, Robin and most of the Dynamic Duo's early rogues gallery. In fact, if not for Finger, Batman wouldn't even look like Batman, but rather Flash Gordon in a Zorro mask, according to comics historian, Arlen Schumer. So, why is it that we see Bob Kane's name all over Batman but not Finger's? Fancy finagling by Kane's dad (it's been written that he lied about his son's age) kept Finger out of the spotlight, and Kane, ever the showman, never acknowledged the contributions of his collaborator until years after Finger's death. It's a harsh story that, to this day, comic creators use as a cautionary tale; to be "Fingered" means not getting the credit you deserve. It's a real f*cking shame that the man that helped make Batman who he would become is reduced to a cautionary tale.

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