hpkomic

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Where did you get that? I must know.

did google lichtenstein

did add box

did put text in box

thamk you fotoship!

Damn it, you had me hoping there was a webcomic etiquette guide.

hpkomic
Damn it, you had me hoping there was a webcomic etiquette guide.

ther is but willcost tenbux

Wow Baelfael, just wow.

feel free to unload onto my shitty comic as you see fit. You're like the poorman's maddox.

OMG, Baefael wins this thread so hard. Baby come back!

Anyways, just want to reinstate that since I put myself in this thread, all pages of both FIGHT 1 and FIGHT 2 are up for ridicule. Sure it'll hurt (as well as be funny), especially if it's true, but this is like the Holodeck: It hurts only while you're in here. That's the point of this thread.

Inspired by Baefael, I will re-type from memory what I had typed but lost.

http://www.drunkduck.com/Star_Crossed_Destiny/index.php?p=249881
I was confused by the action on this page, especially panel 3, which also happens to be the center of the page. Did he just have his neck broken? Otherwise, why is he staring at me (why is he staring at me?) with the same vacant goldfish expression that he had in panel 1? Shouldn't your expression change a little when your head is being stepped on? Unless you just died? The head and neck is also at a very weird angle. Is he standing? Lying prone? Lying supine? I thought maybe someone did a Mario and jumped on his head from the air. (And maybe broke his neck!)

Which then of course confused me about why a gun is being pointed at a guy who just died, which destroys the entire tension and flow of the page.

Seriously, retcon that page and redraw the center panel.

Pinky TA
So you know your figures suck. That's good, step 1 accomplished. But you do realize they still suck? They don't suck suck, but for a comic that's #1 spot and which paints in every single ornate tile on the wall of a gothic mansion in every panel, they do suck.

http://comics2.drunkduck.com/Pinky_TA/pages/a86ff3c64f59d39b8ff21af95b9d9ed2.jpg
Elephant legs? Still here!

http://comics2.drunkduck.com/Pinky_TA/pages/972640442e9a5b44e871c1a0ae34c71f.jpg
This is the dynamic clothing folds of a man riding on a horse in the desert at top speed?? Were you copying those plastic-looking folds off of an action figure, cuz that's what it looks like.

My eyes drift to the right and I see Marilith and Purgatory Tower ads. Jesus, your figures are nowhere near that level. Don't you think they should be, for a comic with "TA" in the title? Take the man hours you put into all the houses and machines, and put it into learning real figure drawing, and finally take a comic you obviously slave over out of amateur grade.

Baelfael

TheMidge28
I don't know if there asking for it...maybe if there posting in this particular thread but not on this website. Its a community and people help one another out to get better...believe it or not many do know there comics suck whether you tell them or not...but its doesn't help them grow as an artist to make fun of them...no one ask for it...they post to share a bit of them self as any one posting on MySpace or elsewhere...and they post so they can get better...now if we were in a competion then yes you can evaluate the work for what it is and it being in a different league...kind of like a my daughter who is 9-months old drawing something compared to what Ozone draws...no comparison...the point I was making is that is why very little people would want to partake in this kind of exercise....of slamming or making fun of someone's art.

First off...what is up with the attitude? I was only trying to express an opinion. I meant no offense to you or anyone so I would appreciate if you could take it down a notch....I know you won't be doing that...so...

First off, yeah, they're asking for it.
...in this thread "yes"...elsewhere "no"

ozoneocean
(Only with the creator's permission though).

Perhaps people didn't say "Please someone insult my shitty comic" but I take presence...WTF...you take presence? that makes no sense at all... in this thread and them insulting themselves to be tacit permission.
This stupid Piro-esque "oh god my comic sucks so bad why am I even showing it to you guys" self depreciation needs to stop...no one said this in this thread. It was response to what may have been just an impression as to why people may not want to participate. And I advised I may be wrong. If you want to practice drawing, there are ample ways to do that, but as soon as you put it up for the public to see, I don't know why you shouldn't expect criticisms.... true...critique is one thing but slamming or making fun of a comic is another... People have this delusion that the internet is somehow their own private stomping ground, and that everyone here should be all "nice" because we're part of a "community." I say that's utterly insane and call apples apples. Penis sucks, Gorg or whatever is poorly drawn (it could well have shitty writing too, I didn't read enough to really find out.)...In your opinion

Second, If they're posting exclusively to get better, than the endless backpatting of webcomics and the attitude of "well at least I'm trying" needs to stop real fast, otherwise you have shit like Megatokyo that just keeps going and going with no real improvement (To pre-emempt the inevitable "yeah, but Piro is successful" argument, that's because his fans are dolts who buy anything because it's ANIMU. Seriously, Megatokyo is an abomination unto the web.)...I agree...to some extent, critique is necessary to get better, but the point was made in connetion with this thread, not throughout DD

Third, it is a competition; like I said before, bandwidth is limited. That means that every page of Penis that gets spewed out of the servers harms the ability of another, better comic to get pushed out....what competition? having readers? I guess to some extent...but its a webcomics communityfirst and foremost

Fourth, even if it's not a competition, I don't understand why I can't (or shouldn't) say something that sucks, sucks. You say if it were, it would be different, but I don't see why, apart from it appears to hurt your sensibilities...No, but to some it will. Some do better under nurturing. While some may do better under smacking them around. I don't see much of the later. You probably don't have kids.

Fifth, there != their. Go read this.

Sixth, jesus christ, cut down on the ellipsis dude. No one on earth talks like that, and there's no reason to type like that when you have this magical "backspace" key that allows you to compose exactly what you want to say.

I know those last two aren't actually on the subject at hand, but they bother me.

EDIT: Well, fak, it looks like you said something along the lines of admitting that you were wrong. I'll keep this entire rant up to remind myself to refresh the page before responding. And because the last two points still apply. Seriously, buy the book, it's only like 10 bucks.
to this I had already commented...

TheMidge28
There are people already on here that make fun if you misspell or act like a retard.

I guess dad didn't give you enough hugs. :)

@ Midge:

Yeah I think it's understood that any biting ridicule stays in this thread only. Sure there are theoretical merits to "telling it like it is," but I agree it's not in the best interests of the DD forum. I've been to and participated in artists communities where no mercy is spared for each other, and I've seen the consequences. It becomes like prison gang warfare. Ppl form into little art cliques to protect themselves. Then they lash out at rival cliques. Then newbies and artists with lives leave. Then the site dies, end of story.

That is what comics reviewers who say "Oh DD is just a place where they pat each other on the back" do not understand. If the place is not civil and nurturing, it dies. Ppl go to the school of hard knocks because the cops caught them or because they got drafted, not because they want to.

Therefore, Baelfael is cool in here, but he wouldn't be cool if he (or anybody) does this on the rest of the forum.

Enough debate!
More insult!

Just two things:
1. It's great to put your work up here for the treatment, but please have a go yourself or else you're just expecting people like Baelfael to do all the work.
2. I don't mind if all my stuff gets the treatment, but I'd like this thread to ONLY be about attacks/crits on stuff that people have given permission for, whether that's the whole comic, or just two pages. It's not a total free for all, although it's the best we've yet had. ;)

Wait, Ozone, it's too limiting if it's not a total free-for-all (the entire comic up for treatment).

Because when you post a page up here, you already know it's bad. Whatever is told you will not be news. But if someone blasts a page that you had previously thought was perfect, it would open you eyes (as well as show you brand new kinds of hurt).

Oh...BTW...I did initially submit my comic into the fray...so feel free to make it your bee-yatch!!!

TheMidge28
this page is from my comic and I hate it...I am going to redo the first panel...it didn't come out like I wanted it...just not believable enough in my opinion...
http://www.drunkduck.com/bloodhound/index.php?p=251074

mlai
Wait, Ozone, it's too limiting if it's not a total free-for-all (the entire comic up for treatment).

Because when you post a page up here, you already know it's bad. Whatever is told you will not be news. But if someone blasts a page that you had previously thought was perfect, it would open you eyes (as well as show you brand new kinds of hurt).

No, only the work people decide. That's all.
I know where you're coming from Mlai, I understand perfectly, but this isn't just about good criticism delivered in a harsh way, it's about saying whatever you like (in the rudest way possible if you want), about the work. We already have an entire forum devoted to comic critiques, no need to replicate it and steal it's thunder.

If you like you can just ignore people who only put up one or two pages and go for the ones that leave their whole comic open. :)

Haha. :D

The problem with insulting people like Ozone is that they're CLEARLY better than me.

Penis, though... I'm sure that penis is done in an "ironically" bad sense, but I have to say I Just Don't Get It. It just seems plain bad, to me. Like Baefael, I hope I'm missing the point because at least that means there is one.

Hey Baefael, let's see your comic so we have chance to give some back. ;)

Oh please, use examples from penis to explain why its so awful, panel by panel. Take any random page of penis and tell me why its not funny. Explain to me why the artwork is bad. Explain in detail sir. Pick out three or four if you want, I don't care. Go nuts with penis!

I agree with HPK; Baelfael, you are my new favorite person as well. There aren't enough people who will point out exactly what the problem is with most webcomics. Webcomics are great in that everyone and anyone can post one. Webcomics are horrible in that everyone and anyone can post one. I barely read any webcomcis at all for this reason; 98% of everything that gets put up is plain rubbish, badly drawn, badly written and flat out horrible. What's worse, when a really good webcomic comes along by a competent artist and/or writer, these people are generally already working in a related field and don't have enough time to dedicate to a webcomic. Return To Sender was my favorite for a loooong time, but the artist got too busy with school to ever update, which is a shame. It was a fantastic premise with really good art, but now I'll never know how the story ends. :(

It's also difficult to critique webcomics, especially to the creators. A lot (I'm not saying all, but a LOT) of them make up excuses when someone picks something out to criticize. "But that's my STYLE!" "I haven't learned anaotmy!" "God, I want to redo this so much, but here it is, meh"

What the hell, seriously. If you want to learn how to do anatomy, go to the library and get an anatomy book. An actual anatomy book, not the 5th volume of Bleach so you can copy a pose or three. Excuses are only what you use to fool yourself.

Not to brag or anything, but I've improved my art and storytelling by scads over the three years I've been doing my comic. It started simply as a project to see if I could do a 20 page self contained story. After I was done, I wanted to see if I could do 30 pages. Then 40. I wanted to see if I could draw a page like this. If I could draw a character like that. If I could tell a story this way. I made lots of mistakes doing that. A lot of story points went nowhere, a lot of characters would get introduced then ignored the rest of the story. Antagonists would appear then have no payoff for the reader. Panels would be laid out horribly, characters would randomly go off-model, perspectives would look like they're seen with one eye higher than the other one.

But I learned from it. I began to learn how to pace a story, how to write it out beforehand, how to introduce characters, keep them in the reader's mind, and have their motivations and actions pay off at the end. I've learned how to construct more complicated characters, and I've learned easier ways to construct backgrounds and points of view. Granted my art still has a long way to go, but a lot of it is just refining what I know at this point and learning how to do more complicated things like plot/sub-plot, 2 and 3 point perspectives, character size relations and creating personalities.

The point I'm trying to make is that if someone criticizes your work, don't take it personally, unless they spend more time insulting your mom than talking about the comic. Even the most scathing, harshly worded critique has truth to it, and if you're really seeking to improve, you'll cowboy up and dig through the criticism looking for it.

Okay, I'm cutting off this post here before I make too long a post (whoops, too late). If anyone wants to give a nice harsh critique to my comic, post it. I want to hear it. I'm a glutton for punishment.

I know what this is! It's a roast! I've seen em on Comedy Central. You pick an uber popular comedian or actor and a bunch of people insult them like crazy followed by jk we love you!

-Marine, you work so hard to make the worst comic ever! But dude you try to hard. It's fake. Retarded 10 year olds making final fantasy sprite comics make better comics than you. Your last couple strips consisted of a cut and paste guy talking. Where's the eye rape!?

-Ozone, your talent is wasted here! People talk about beautiful backgrounds and such ,but all I see are butts, boobs, and hearts pointing to vaginas! That's your whole comic! And why does Pinky have a 40 year old face on a Barbie doll's body? Ugly face just ugly!

-Eviltwinpixie, Grog bores me to tears. Cut and paste pirates that's what it is! Having the same thing frame to frame...it's unreadable! The only thing that saves you is your pin up art fillers of your main chick character. That's why they clicked on your deviant art ad that's all they want!

-TheMidge28, Who the **** are you!? Your Blood-whatever-hound comic IS eye rape!


JUST KIDDING YOU GUYS! I LOVE YOU AND YOUR HARD WORK YOU CONTRIBUTE FOR DRUNKDUCK! YOU GOT GUTS FOR PUTTING UP YOUR 10 TIMES BETTER COMIC THAN MINE UP HERE.

Except you, Penis comic. You still suck.

marine
Go nuts with penis!

Just because it needed to be said.

But, yeah, its a pain in the keester to find time to do good work. I should know. My work is...never good :D

JillyFoo
I know what this is! It's a roast! I've seen em on Comedy Central. You pick an uber popular comedian or actor and a bunch of people insult them like crazy followed by jk we love you!

That's what it is... in a way...harsh extreme F'in' criticism...
you have to put up your stuff you are okay with having trash and make fun of while you get the priviledge of trashing others entries...soem of pages or the whole comic if permitted...
Kind of a Battle Royale of Criticism

so JillyFoo are you game or are just making comments on my "eye-rape" and others!?!
because you have to pay to play.

Midge, my man, that is just some plain ugly art you got there. Maybe it's your "style," but I'm sorry I just don't have it in me to appreciate ugly as a style. Sin City isn't pretty, but that is style. Yours is not.

First of all, when the text and the picture are 2 different resolutions. That sets off the n00b alarm right there.

Second, you have no sense of dynamic motion.
http://www.drunkduck.com/bloodhound/index.php?p=252440
This guy fell and cracked the wall behind him? Nothing works. I can't feel it. Everything is wrong. Proportion, posture, paneling, angle, light/dark dynamics, everything. Wrong.

And FCOL, erase the pencil lines. And let white be white. Buy a new scanner, or learn how to scan.

As for Marine. Your mind tricks will never work on me. I have never fallen for your plug traps once, and I never will. But since you're getting hits, I'm sure there's a target audience for your non-improvement non-art non-humor non-comics strip out there. The same target audience who was dying to know why Anna Nicole Smith died and who thinks Paris Hilton is extremely ****able.

Edit:
BTW, I'm not trying to be scathingly funny like Baelfael. But he can't be here 24-7. But I also don't think it's right for the artist to not be allowed to respond (as per Ozone). If you think I'm wrong on a particular, or if you don't understand, I look forward to your response.

But if you just want to erect a shell of "Oh that's my style" or "What do you know about American innovation you manga wanker," then don't bother.

I think it doesn't need to be said but I canot draw backrounds to save my life. My 'blackouts' started as a excuse to draw nothing but turned into a style. Someone even said they bring out emotion.

89 pages, 0 backrounds.

mlai
Midge, my man, that is just some plain ugly art you got there. Maybe it's your "style," but I'm sorry I just don't have it in me to appreciate ugly as a style. Sin City isn't pretty, but that is style. Yours is not.

First of all, when the text and the picture are 2 different resolutions. That sets off the n00b alarm right there.

Second, you have no sense of dynamic motion.
http://www.drunkduck.com/bloodhound/index.php?p=252440
This guy fell and cracked the wall behind him? Nothing works. I can't feel it. Everything is wrong. Proportion, posture, paneling, angle, light/dark dynamics, everything. Wrong.

And FCOL, erase the pencil lines. And let white be white. Buy a new scanner, or learn how to scan.



Edit:
BTW, I'm not trying to be scathingly funny like Baelfael. But he can't be here 24-7. But I also don't think it's right for the artist to not be allowed to respond (as per Ozone). If you think I'm wrong on a particular, or if you don't understand, I look forward to your response.

Oh BTW I am a n00b...this was the first webcomic I have ever done.
so your alarm rings true.

No wall here or shell...I concur on that page...it sucks majorly! now if that applies to all my pages well that's a different thing!

plus on that page its a shower behind him as seen in the first panel... but the page sucks.

Also I am not trying to emulate Sin City or Frank Miller...just because there is one addition of color doesn't make it a Sin City homage.

The one thing is I don't have photoshop...all my pages are hand-drawn and inked and played with...tee-hee...in MS Paint...but that page in reference sucks and I agree with the slam...so more power to you.

I am more than willing to open it up all the other pages as well...

You are or not trying to be scathingly funny? I think you have a lot of opinions...but you know what they say...

mlai
But if you just want to erect a shell of "Oh that's my style" or "What do you know about American innovation you manga wanker," then don't bother.

but what can I say...me commenting on your art...oh wait a minute...you're just the writer!
ah..snap!

sounds like a nice shell you got there!

do you always come off like you think you're the shit?

TheMidge28

JillyFoo
I know what this is! It's a roast! I've seen em on Comedy Central. You pick an uber popular comedian or actor and a bunch of people insult them like crazy followed by jk we love you!

That's what it is... in a way...harsh extreme F'in' criticism...
you have to put up your stuff you are okay with having trash and make fun of while you get the priviledge of trashing others entries...soem of pages or the whole comic if permitted...
Kind of a Battle Royale of Criticism

so JillyFoo are you game or are just making comments on my "eye-rape" and others!?!
because you have to pay to play.

I'll take to the challenge. I'll put up some pages for my failure of a comic The Planet Closest to Heaven for the roast.

Pages for roasting:
Main character crying like a baby.
Main character being insulted by a kitty.
Main character can't open a door.
Main character kicking a cat.

Go nuts!

@ Midge:

MS PAINT?? Are you ****ing kidding me? The default paint program any modern scanner comes with would be better than MS Paint. You don't have to learn how to CG, but never stop learning about rudimentary scanning/CG until you can make your page onscreen look as good as the page you hold in your hands. Anything less and you're obviously doing yourself a disservice.

If you have a crappy old scanner, buy a new one. A damn good name-brand scanner costs less than $100 nowadays. There's a thread on scanners in Tips N' Tricks.

I'm not just the writer, I'm 1 of the artists.

@ Jillyfoo:

So are you a case example of "It's not what you draw, it's where you plug"? I had known your comic gets a lot of hits, so I always had a mind to check it out because I figured the art must be good.

What, what the hell... Let's not talk about lack of artistic skill. Let's instead talk about the fact that you don't even seem to be trying! What, are you drawing with a ballpoint pen or something?

http://www.drunkduck.com/The_Planet_Closest_To_Heaven/index.php?p=257923

What in god's name is with that page? Did you get a hand cramp and ask your baby brother to shade in the background with his #2 pencils? This is no longer a question of art skill. This is "I don't give a **** anymore I know you morons will come read my comics anyways."

While other ppl are spending their time drawing a good page or learning how to draw better, you must be spending your time promoting your comic consisting of pages colored in pencil by your little brother. And wow, it pays off! Go intArnets!

Edit:
That's it. No more. I'm turning to the Dark Side! Three years of sensitivity-meditation and impeccable nettiquette being stripped away by Ozone's devious schemes! The baby buddha statues are crying!!

Edit #2: I see you added a question for me, Midge. Yes I have pride in my work. But do I enjoy being elitist and telling ppl off? I used to but not anymore. I still remember how I talked just like that on forums, years ago, and deriving pleasure from every word. I can tell you that I don't derive any satisfaction from it anymore. It felt like work just now, typing vitriol. My hands remember how to do it, but my heart's not in it. I only did it cuz the thread looked like it might die. My mean streak has burnt out 3+ years ago.

I'm nice now. Brightly colored tweety birds perch on my shoulders.

But I'll tell you one thing, though. Tom Selleck won't get you clicks. Try Brad Pitt. It worked for Marine. lol!

mlai
@ Midge:

I'm not just the writer, I'm 1 of the artists.

then maybe you need to select the pages which you drew...because from what I saw you had referenced that this other guy drew them and you wrote...

edit: now you are going after the avatar...low blow...low blow...;)

mlai
That is what comics reviewers who say "Oh DD is just a place where they pat each other on the back" do not understand. If the place is not civil and nurturing, it dies. Ppl go to the school of hard knocks because the cops caught them or because they got drafted, not because they want to.

Yet when there isn't some way of culling the weak or unworthy, the environment is likely doomed to become crowded, decadent, and/or stagnated.

Eh, you can insult all of them if you want. His failure is my failure.

Don't worry about Ed. He doesn't come here. Never did. He won't care what you say. He's too busy being married.

I'm much more mellow nowadays. You can say what you please, I can't get worked up over it anymore so no worries. But if this is your first webcomics experience as you say, then I can understand why you'd feel personally insulted. I took things 500x more personal than you do now, when I first started webcomicking.

If it makes you feel less insulted, my heart's not behind any word I said. I just remember how to insult ppl, but I can't feel the urge to do it anymore.

@ Dishsoap:

What I said about a web-artist community site dying because of the poisonous forum was the truth. I believe that's how Impromanga died. Of course the founders graduating also had a lot to do with it. But... Imagine ppl with talent and popularity like DD's Top 10's wielding their little clan powers like HS cheerleaders gone bad.

HOWEVER, I'll say this. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if every last sprite comic featuring Sonic and/or Megaman is summarily deleted from DD. That can only be good for DD.

SmackJeeves, DD's friendly rival, is IMO sliding towards a slow stagnating death because it allows legions of horrible pubescent sprite comics and boys'-love hack-manga to take it over. I mirror my comics there but I don't really care for it anymore now that I see that trend. I will fight tooth and nail if I ever see that try to take root at DD.

mlai
Eh, you can insult all of them if you want. His failure is my failure.

Don't worry about Ed. He doesn't come here. Never did. He won't care what you say. He's too busy being married.

I'm much more mellow nowadays. You can say what you please, I can't get worked up over it anymore so no worries. But if this is your first webcomics experience as you say, then I can understand why you'd feel personally insulted. I took things 500x more personal than you do now, when I first started webcomicking.

If it makes you feel less insulted, my heart's not behind any word I said. I just remember how to insult ppl, but I can't feel the urge to do it anymore.

Oh I don't take it personal...I want to get better...that's why I am doing what I am doing...I know this thread is not the place to get actual helpful criticism...but hell its fun...

JillyFoo
-Marine, you work so hard to make the worst comic ever! But dude you try to hard. It's fake. Retarded 10 year olds making final fantasy sprite comics make better comics than you. Your last couple strips consisted of a cut and paste guy talking. Where's the eye rape!?

Except you, Penis comic. You still suck.

I already used eye rape in penis, which is called "pink-eye fetish" by the way, a long time ago in penis. At least a year or two ago. Basicly guys hold open an eye while they shoot their load into it.

Maybe I should mention again that all the major characters in penis are/were background characters in other works of mine. They just appeared once or were written but never had a chance to show up. For example, Abortion Man was a villain in a comic book about an average joe superhero. He appeared around the sixth or seventh issue, and basicly shows up like an old spider-man villain: he does his thing, yells at the hero, and dies.

In penis, you won't have to worry about character development, missing out on important story elements and being completely lost, updates are and have been always consistent, if my page that day isn't up to par with others, I've more extra content on my pages than anybody else around DD. I'm an active community member (some argue the most popular/hated) and if nothing else I spark conversations. "Say you know marine right?" *rolls eyes* "Yeah, I know him. He's not very funny at all." *laughs* Thats the joke right there, isn't it? That me not being funny is whats actually funny. A lot of people see it or other redeemable features and keep coming back. I usually got a lot to say and let my authors comments get into the four and five paragraph area. The thing is, if you don't like a particular feature on my site, you can just ignore it. You can ignore me if you wanted to. If I see certain posters on forums, I just scroll right past their names.

I'd rip on you guys, but I already do penis. Thats more than enough.

Also that guy never mentioned my extra content, and how its sucking away bandwith and storage space. My about me page alone is an upwards of around 80 megabits of information. Not to mention the flash cartoons and other crap on my site, like my poems or articles.

I think this thread is a learning thing in more than just an artistic sense. Being "insulted" by your own community is a good way to learn to be able to take it with a sense of humour, as well as a very direct way to point out artistic flaws. :)

Mr. Moderator, I retract what I said about how artists should be able to respond to their critiquers, if it means that it gives Marine license to cut/paste into this thread another one of his 50,000-words pointless plugs. How utterly stupid must some ppl be to be lured into giving hits to his comic because of the 10,000th pointless 50,000-words plug?

The thing is, if he's actually a vitriolic ranter who is passionate about defending his opinions, that would be one thing. But he isn't. The only reason he acts like a dick is because he thinks (correctly) that will garner him enough attention/reputation that it would lure ppl into clicking on his 10,000th misplaced plug.

For example, he will try to start a flame war with you, acting like he's trying to defend an opinion, but with the real purpose of luring ppl (including you) to check out his comics. The second he realizes that you're not falling for it, he cuts and runs.

To ppl like Vindibudd, it's about passion and conviction. To Marine, it's not even about passion. It's purely about his little corner of fame. Like Paris Hilton.

Wow I say this is the only time in the forum I got immediate responses.

Just don't take this too much to heart guys ow. XD



-re mlai:
Wow... I don't plug my comics and you consider it "a lot of hits". Nice.

mlai
Did you get a hand cramp and ask your baby brother to shade in the background with his #2 pencils? While other ppl are spending their time drawing a good page or learning how to draw better, you must be spending your time promoting your comic consisting of pages colored in pencil by your little brother.

I wish my brother gave a damn about my comics, but he doesn't take any part in my work. :D