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Can artistic talent be compromised? (better: art or humour?)
Podunk U
at 3:14PM, March 30, 2006
Which do you think is more important in a comic strip: good artistry or good humor? Can a strip still be reader-worthy if it looks like it's been drawn by a two year old?
Words flow out of my mouth like a fountain. Much of it splashes unused on the ground, but when one chooses to take a drink, it often brightens their day. However, sometimes it tastes like piss and they say, "Bob your words taste like piss" and I am sad.
last edited on July 14, 2011 2:46PM
Ronson
at 5:51PM, March 30, 2006
A comic - be it a strip or a long saga - is rooted in the idea of conveying a message with pictures. If the pictures don't convey the message, the comic will never live up to it's potential.
Sometimes something that looks like it was drawn by a two year old could very well convey a message.
The big joke that people told about super hero comics is the tendency for the hero to say "I'm going to punch you" at the same time the hero is about to punch someone.
This happened for two reasons - either the editor felt that the action wasn't obvious enough or because the writer didn't trust the art to tell the story ... almost the same thing, really.
But what it did was diminish the importance of the picture. The words should add to the picture, not support it. But it doesn't have to be a complex image, just an image that conveys a message.
The best way to test your skills with this is to tell a story without words. Just looks and hand motions and such. If the bare bones of a story can be conveyed, then you're doing pretty good.
Sometimes something that looks like it was drawn by a two year old could very well convey a message.
The big joke that people told about super hero comics is the tendency for the hero to say "I'm going to punch you" at the same time the hero is about to punch someone.
This happened for two reasons - either the editor felt that the action wasn't obvious enough or because the writer didn't trust the art to tell the story ... almost the same thing, really.
But what it did was diminish the importance of the picture. The words should add to the picture, not support it. But it doesn't have to be a complex image, just an image that conveys a message.
The best way to test your skills with this is to tell a story without words. Just looks and hand motions and such. If the bare bones of a story can be conveyed, then you're doing pretty good.
last edited on July 14, 2011 3:10PM
AdHocFerox
at 10:06PM, March 30, 2006
art taste is relative. the art only has to be good enough to convey what you want to convey. If it's a lot better then what's needed, that's a bonus :D
last edited on July 14, 2011 10:46AM
Eirikr
at 11:50AM, April 1, 2006
Take a look at the newspaper strip Pearls before Swine. It has very dark humor, is very funny, but it is poorly drawn, as the main characters are semi-stick figures. However, as comics in the newspaper go, it is increasingly popular.
In a humor strip, humor is key, but I personally want people to say that my strip is well written and at the least, fairly well drawn.
In a humor strip, humor is key, but I personally want people to say that my strip is well written and at the least, fairly well drawn.
last edited on July 14, 2011 12:19PM
Thevampire_kain01
at 4:33AM, April 4, 2006
I prefer humour, but well drawn imagery featuring the dark red, sanguine fluid of life, as well as anything involving internal organs or intestines will also readily attract my interest: For I am a complex and well rounded individual.
last edited on July 14, 2011 4:29PM
ccs1989
at 6:43PM, April 7, 2006
http://ccs1989.deviantart.com
"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours."
-Henry David Thoreau, Walden
"If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours."
-Henry David Thoreau, Walden
last edited on July 14, 2011 11:37AM
ozoneocean
at 3:29PM, April 18, 2006
That's true... If I really don't like the art, there has to be something extra to catch my eye or I'm gone forever.
last edited on July 14, 2011 2:23PM
Zig
at 6:09AM, May 22, 2006
I think many here know of this comic called Userfriendly [userfriendly.org]. The art is not extraordinary, but it's extremely funny -- and it's a very successful webcomic overall.
I think one needs enough art to convey the message -- no more, no less. A humour strip will generally need less art, less detail, than a serious story. Plus you want people to laugh at your jokes, not to drool over your elite drawing skillz.
My $0.02...
I think one needs enough art to convey the message -- no more, no less. A humour strip will generally need less art, less detail, than a serious story. Plus you want people to laugh at your jokes, not to drool over your elite drawing skillz.
My $0.02...
last edited on July 14, 2011 5:02PM
widdlestgoff
at 2:51PM, May 22, 2006
I think having good art is important even in humorous strips. Keep in mind that there's a difference between stylized and bad. The best example of what I'm talking about is Shiny Things . In the old days, the author didn't have facial expressions, but then he started putting them in and refining his style. Nowadays it's not the Mona Lisa or anything, but it works a whole lot better than his old stuff.
Of course, art is what you bring to it. Something doesn't have to be beautiful or pleasant to be good art.
Of course, art is what you bring to it. Something doesn't have to be beautiful or pleasant to be good art.
last edited on July 14, 2011 4:49PM
spambot
at 3:29PM, May 22, 2006
Having good art never hurts, but especially for humor strips it isn’t vital. As long as you can get your point across to your audience, your fine. I mean, look at White Ninja . That’s some funny random wackiness.
I'm also doing that other comic "Space Waffles ".
We now have a podcast called The Random Pirate Comics Show!
last edited on July 14, 2011 3:50PM
BigFishComic
at 11:46PM, Aug. 24, 2006
Podunk U
Which do you think is more important in a comic strip: good artistry or good humor? Can a strip still be reader-worthy if it looks like it's been drawn by a two year old?
white ninja is my inspiration. crappy art sometimes works.
last edited on July 14, 2011 11:21AM
deletedbyrequest03
at 6:12AM, Aug. 30, 2006
Artwork is just as important as the humor. People want a comic that looks good. Actually, artwork is a way of showing that your comic is good and you put time into it. If you draw it without care, people will either not like your style, or think you're lazy, and won't even read the jokes.
But artwork is just a plus. The meaning of the comic is much more, I guess.
But artwork is just a plus. The meaning of the comic is much more, I guess.
last edited on July 14, 2011 12:04PM
Berlin Poe
at 6:53PM, Sept. 5, 2006
Well, I'm greedy and mean. I'm going with both.
I want great art and great humor. I try to deliver.
Yep.
But I'll take humor anyday.
I want great art and great humor. I try to deliver.
Yep.
But I'll take humor anyday.
last edited on July 14, 2011 11:20AM
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