What to you is one of the best non-anime/non-Disney/non-Pixar animated movie ever.

"Heavy Metal" FOREVER! (the original, not that shitty 200 one)

Those are pretty strange limitations. I mean, we can't choose movies made by two American companies, or by the entire country of Japan. Which is way more than two american companies.

Anyways, I'd probabley pick the Secret of Nihm, or anything by Don Bluth really.

(Fivel goes West is also very good)

I wouldn't say everything by Don Bluth was great. After the Secret of NIMH, his movies really went downhill with each movie showing a steady decrease in both writing and animation quality until Anastasia (where the animation quality went back up, although the writing still kind of sucked). The Secret of NIMH, however is a classic to just about anyone who hasn't read the book. I really wish it would get the DVD treatment it deserves instead of the crappy budget DVD treatment it's been getting.

The Iron Giant was also pretty good. Mostly it's a great example of Brad Bird's ability to immerse people in different times and places.

Even though it's been included in Kingdom Hearts, I would also count the Nightmare Before Christmas. Disney never really recognized it as part of their classics collection and instead pushed it out through Touchstone.

Also, let's not forget Sylvain Chomet's 2003 piece Les Triplettes de Belleville-- a little too recent to be eligible for "best non-whatever animated movie of all time", but worth mentioning. Lacking major dialogue, the entire movie basically stands on the animation, but it manages to pull it off with amazingly (and somewhat ridiculously) designed characters and rich environments. ...If not the best, it's certainly one of the most unique.

I loved that film! The triplets of Belleville was delightful!

No contest for me -- the best by far is the sci-fi punk-rock opera:

Rock & Rule

isukun
I wouldn't say everything by Don Bluth was great. After the Secret of NIMH, his movies really went downhill with each movie showing a steady decrease in both writing and animation quality until Anastasia (where the animation quality went back up, although the writing still kind of sucked). The Secret of NIMH, however is a classic to just about anyone who hasn't read the book. I really wish it would get the DVD treatment it deserves instead of the crappy budget DVD treatment it's been getting.

The Iron Giant was also pretty good. Mostly it's a great example of Brad Bird's ability to immerse people in different times and places.

I agree on both. Firstly, Iron Giant may be my favorite animated movie under said constraints.

And secondly, Yes, Bluth really took a nosedive following NIMH, and even that movie had a few issues. Great movie though. His later movies began to be marked by bad character design and awful stories. I did like American Tail though.

I was fairly impressed with Prince of Egypt and thought maybe Dreamworks could really take off while Disney was sagging, but soon Sinbad came along. Dreamworks has proved no slouch when it came to CGI. It seems the world loves Shrek.

Fire and Ice! -sexy

The Return of the King. That whip song is fnackin' catchy.

If it counts: -Nightmare Before Christmas (if not Disney, than it's a 'Touchtone'-film wich is also a company related to Disney)
-Shrek
-Corpse Bride
-Antz
-Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
-Land before Time
-Chicken Run

And yes, Heavy Metal is also incredibly awsome! I still have to see all of the Bill Plympton cartoons, 'cause I believe those are great. Mutant Aliens, Hair High and I Married a Strange Person! have been on my Too See-list for quite a long time now.

Crazy Dutchman
-Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit

Shoot, how'd I forget that one?

One of my favorites as a kid was The Last Unicorn, but... I guess it kinda falls under anime because it was made back when Japanese animators were cheaper.

cats cant dance

Kinda Anime, but yea :s The Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Anderson :o I saw it when I was a child :o

Oh god, and Halloween: Witch Mountain

I really like the movie "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm", and as far as awesome movies go, "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker". I know those may not be as artsy as "The Triplets of Belleville" (which I also saw) but I just love the acting, animation, and characters in RotJ.

I remember seeing Prince of Egypt as a kid and really liking it. Too bad it didn't do great at the box office.

Heavy Traffic.
1970's artsy movie.
Featuring pinball, animation and graphic cartoon sex.
That's right. Cartoon sex.

Raunchy, yet awesome.

Don't worry though. The raunchy isn't even half of what makes it awesome.

I don't know, Dirty Duck was pretty perverse in places and that certainly didn't make it awesome (although it did have some catchy music). Personally, I think you know you've seen too much animation if you've seen Dirty Duck.

The animated parts in Pink Floyd's The Wall were brilliant. Gerald Scarfe's surrealist part, the whole "Goodbye Blue Sky" sequence. It was a nightware-ish piece about German bombing England during World War 2. Fantastic.

Yeah, The Wall was a total trip. Hardcore flower sex.

While certainly brilliant in their own way, the animations for the Wall were simply added in to offer continuity between the movie and the concert. The animation wasn't originally made for the film. They are more like music videos than an animated movie.

mechanical_lullaby
Heavy Traffic.
...Raunchy, yet awesome.

I want to see that now!
No one else liked Fire and Ice? :(
What about Fantastic Planet? -can't remember the French name... "La Planit du Fantasic? or something silly...
Titan AE was crap on a stick.
I've never seen Fritz the cat.
Australia has produced a lot of kacky animated movies, mostly featuring "Dot and the Kangaroo", or is it "Dot the Kangaroo"? Not like any of you'd know! :p The one about "the Magic Pudding" was very well done though, prolly one of our best.
There was also some silly thing about a rainforest that got a lot of attention a few years ago, but it looked pretty unimaginative to me.

But what about... Canada? They produce some BRILLIANT kids animations (both traditional and 3D), surely they've got some good movies too?
Hmm, whoever made the Asterix movies di pretty well (French?), but none of those are classics... What other countries have made great animated films?

You're thinking about Fern Gully, which was of course nothing compared to Princess Mononoke.

mlai
You're thinking about Fern Gully, which was of course nothing compared to Princess Mononoke.

That's the one! What do you mean compared to Princess Mononoke? Are you retarded? lol!
Fern Gully was nothing compared to any big name anime!

I remember seeing Titan AE back when it was released and I didn't think it was that bad actually. Of course that might have been because I was...11.

Last Unicorn was recently put out on DVD in a new 25th Anniversary edition.

Most of Don Bluth's stuff depeneded on the budget. Anastasia and Titan AE were backed by Fox. But then you got the REALLY CRAPPY ones he did like Pebble & The Penguin and Troll In Central Park. JEEZUS!

I'm still waiting for my super-slow torrent to finish, but from what I've seen, and heard from friends, The Thief and The Cobbler.

edit: if you're not familiar with it, the history of this film [en.wikipedia.org] is incredible.

I liked Titan AE when I saw it. I also liked Anastasia. And a french one called um... Captain something. It was about an orphan who was the son of a pirate. I didn't like Fire and Ice's animation, but I did like the story quite a bit. Oh, and then there's Quest for Camelot. Also great story, good songs, but unfortunate animation and cartoon. Ah well. Can't have it all, I suppose...

ozoneocean
I've never seen Fritz the cat.

It was ok, but it was a big disappointment for me. It's really really REALLY weird. And of course the comic is 100% better. The movie just had a few scenes that seemed to last forever without anything happening and without being funny. Also it contained a few scenes that were very cartoony, almost in the 'childish' form. Then it gets blend a little with some nudism or violence to make it more adult, didn't really know if I liked that. Mostly because it can't stay at the same level 'cause later on there are even a few shocking scenes that have got no humor at all (like a group of nazis that beat up a fat naked woman). Still I like the sharp look at society, the psychedelic feel and I must say it has got one of the best dying-scenes for a character ever :D But the ending was just plain stupid. (I believe that Crumb didn't like it at all).

Tantz Aerine
And a french one called um... Captain something. It was about an orphan who was the son of a pirate.

Corto Maltese maybe? (never seen it).


Strange no one mentioned Ice Age yet. It was quite funny, especially the scrat. But I ought to think that movie's a little overrated imo.

(I believe that Crumb didn't like it at all)

Crumb hated the movie adaptation so much that he killed off the character. Unfortunately for him, it didn't stop them from making a sequel.

if Pixar wasn't banned, I'd say The Incredibles. But given the restrictions, I guess I'll have to go for Nightmare Before Christmas.