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Barack Obama is a Conspiracy Theorist
kyupol
at 5:18PM, July 28, 2008
lol! Look at him. He's talking about the New World Order.
But it still doesnt exist. It doesnt matter if it comes from the horse's mouth.
There's no such thing as a New World Order...
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Inkmonkey
at 6:22PM, July 28, 2008
It's funny how people can take a simple term like "New World Order", and automatically attach it to an underground conspiracy. The term exists independantly of the idea people have created around it.
But either, this is the sort of thing you'll get from people who can see a conspiracy in anything, so I don't really see the point of it.
But either, this is the sort of thing you'll get from people who can see a conspiracy in anything, so I don't really see the point of it.
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Croi Dhubh
at 7:53PM, July 28, 2008
Yet the moment a non-democrat says anything remotely like "New World Order", it's a huge piece of evidence that they are trying to destroy the world. Obama is just like Two-Face
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Custard Trout
at 8:03PM, July 28, 2008
Except Obama isn't horrifically disfigured, completely insane or fictional.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Croi Dhubh
at 8:08PM, July 28, 2008
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Fenn
at 11:57PM, July 28, 2008
That video is the stupidest thing I've seen in a long while. A speech about cooperation with other countries somehow means that he's the next fucking Hitler? Seriously, Hitler? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that crazy bastard less about cooperation and more about domination? Less about friendship and more about the fascism?
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lothar
at 12:32AM, July 29, 2008
i ,for one, welcome this "new" world order !! as opposed to the "old" disorders that allow rogue nations to stockpile weapons of mass destruction and threaten weaker nations with them , rogue nations that invade and terrorize sovereign nations and kill their leaders and topple their elected governments whenever they please !
that or America really should change its anthem to the imperial march !!
that or America really should change its anthem to the imperial march !!
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bravo1102
at 8:28AM, July 29, 2008
Wow that was fair and unbalanced.
Could we please stop studying conspiracies and research history? (from historians not internet paranoids who twist it through the 8th Dimension adding 'Lectroids and aliens from the miniseries "V")
Hitler wanted globalization as described by Orwell: a boot smashing into the faces of the untermensch forever.
Obama's New World Order is more like the World Government envisioned by Gene Roddenbury in Star Trek and I kind of like the idea. (Can I join the CFR now, please? *Runs to mailbox to look for my invitation to the next Bilderburger Conference*)
Could we please stop studying conspiracies and research history? (from historians not internet paranoids who twist it through the 8th Dimension adding 'Lectroids and aliens from the miniseries "V")
Hitler wanted globalization as described by Orwell: a boot smashing into the faces of the untermensch forever.
Obama's New World Order is more like the World Government envisioned by Gene Roddenbury in Star Trek and I kind of like the idea. (Can I join the CFR now, please? *Runs to mailbox to look for my invitation to the next Bilderburger Conference*)
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Atom Apple
at 5:50PM, July 29, 2008
kyupol
There's no such thing as a New World Order...
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH KYUPOL.
i will also like to know you the more
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jmt
at 9:52PM, Aug. 1, 2008
whenever I hear words like "Common Humanity" and "Global Citizenship" I start to freak out a little.
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lothar
at 1:54PM, Aug. 2, 2008
jmt
whenever I hear words like "Common Humanity" and "Global Citizenship" I start to freak out a little.
uhhh .. yea .. ScARy stuff , that peace and rational thinking
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flapjack1995
at 2:16PM, Aug. 2, 2008
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bravo1102
at 6:47AM, Aug. 3, 2008
flapjack1995
Global peace? What is the world coming to...?
...an end.
*cue the stuttering pig.*
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Croi Dhubh
at 10:13AM, Aug. 4, 2008
Fenn
That video is the stupidest thing I've seen in a long while. A speech about cooperation with other countries somehow means that he's the next fucking Hitler? Seriously, Hitler? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that crazy bastard less about cooperation and more about domination? Less about friendship and more about the fascism?
Please note what I'm about to say isn't directed at you nor your thinking, just something your comment made me think about.
It's amazing how when it comes to certain people, the moment the name Hitler is used, it's a valid statement and argument, but others, oh no, it's just ridiculous.
Use it for Bush, and it's right, use it for Obama, and suddenly you're a psycho.
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lothar
at 11:43PM, Aug. 4, 2008
Croi Dhubh
It's amazing how when it comes to certain people, the moment the name Hitler is used, it's a valid statement and argument, but others, oh no, it's just ridiculous.
Use it for Bush, and it's right, use it for Obama, and suddenly you're a psycho.
i think bush has earned it , obama has not .
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ozoneocean
at 12:04AM, Aug. 5, 2008
Lothar's right. Bush Jnr, love him or hate him, has been a world leader for a few years now and started two wars.
Obama, as they say over and over, "Just hasn't got the experience" ;)
Comparing him to Hitler is a little premature.
Obama, as they say over and over, "Just hasn't got the experience" ;)
Comparing him to Hitler is a little premature.
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kyupol
at 4:23PM, Aug. 5, 2008
ozoneocean
Lothar's right. Bush Jnr, love him or hate him, has been a world leader for a few years now and started two wars.
Obama, as they say over and over, "Just hasn't got the experience" ;)
Comparing him to Hitler is a little premature.
google "Frank Marshall Davis" and see his connection with Obama.
You're right though. He's not a Hitler.
He's a
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Custard Trout
at 4:37PM, Aug. 5, 2008
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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lothar
at 5:01PM, Aug. 5, 2008
uh , Kyupol , what's so bad about Frank Marshall Davis ? i just read about him on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis [en.wikipedia.org]
so what's the big deal deal ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis [en.wikipedia.org]
so what's the big deal deal ?
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JoeL_CQB
at 7:36PM, Aug. 5, 2008
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Inkmonkey
at 12:27PM, Aug. 7, 2008
Do people still have that Cold War stigma that communism=evil? Are we not past that? I thought by this point that people had come to accept that communism is just another form of government; one that doesn't tend to work particularly well in practice, but it's a nice idea. I think a world leader who sees the ideal of everyone being treated 100% equally isn't a bad thing, it's just that the major countries that attempted communism didn't do it right, or the people didn't all play along, etc.
Anyway, if you think the very concept of Communism is comparable to Nazism just because the most famous countries that attempted it just happened to have a serious conflict with the US, then you need to read what communism actually is.
Anyway, if you think the very concept of Communism is comparable to Nazism just because the most famous countries that attempted it just happened to have a serious conflict with the US, then you need to read what communism actually is.
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Custard Trout
at 1:56PM, Aug. 7, 2008
I think the reason most people dislike communism is because the sort of people who wouldn't benefit from it (i.e. people with money and power) tell them that it's bad.
Also there's that everything you create belonging to the state thing. People like to get credit for their work.
Also there's that everything you create belonging to the state thing. People like to get credit for their work.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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seventy2
at 3:16PM, Aug. 7, 2008
custards right. people like to have their stuff. and ensure their stuff doesnt go to someone else.
also, communism will never work, because too many people want to be "in charge". even if you indoctrinated everyone from birth. someone somewhere, will say, "i don't like this, and i want it my way" and then the ball rolls, and you end up with another russia.
also, communism will never work, because too many people want to be "in charge". even if you indoctrinated everyone from birth. someone somewhere, will say, "i don't like this, and i want it my way" and then the ball rolls, and you end up with another russia.
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kyupol
at 7:04PM, Aug. 7, 2008
I dislike communism because it puts too much power in the hands of government.
Its all about government micromanagement of your life and total control of everything. Sure you'd all be equal. As slaves or as mere drones of the system.
Communism sounds like a good idea. Talking about equal distribution and such.
Howerver, the problem with communism is its only good if ANGELS ARE RUNNING IT.
Its all about government micromanagement of your life and total control of everything. Sure you'd all be equal. As slaves or as mere drones of the system.
Communism sounds like a good idea. Talking about equal distribution and such.
Howerver, the problem with communism is its only good if ANGELS ARE RUNNING IT.
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cartoonprofessor
at 1:55AM, Aug. 8, 2008
Er... "Hitler wanted Globalization too"???????
Why would Obama, or anyone else, want what is already here?
Why would Obama, or anyone else, want what is already here?
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seventy2
at 1:31PM, Aug. 8, 2008
cartoonprofessor
Er... "Hitler wanted Globalization too"???????
Why would Obama, or anyone else, want what is already here?
i think they mean that, that person wants control of that globalization. the power that comes from being the head of a large global government like that....
facara
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Custard Trout
at 3:21PM, Aug. 8, 2008
kyupol
Howerver, the problem with communism is its only good if ANGELS ARE RUNNING IT.
Isn't the same true of any form of government? Even anarchy, which is a form of government in the same way black is a colour, relies on the idea that no one will try to take control again.
The world would be a nicer place if people stopped acting like people.
Hey buddy, you should be a Russian Cosmonaut, and here's why.
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Inkmonkey
at 7:41AM, Aug. 9, 2008
Custard Troutkyupol
Howerver, the problem with communism is its only good if ANGELS ARE RUNNING IT.
Isn't the same true of any form of government? Even anarchy, which is a form of government in the same way black is a colour, relies on the idea that no one will try to take control again.
The world would be a nicer place if people stopped acting like people.
Seconded.
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Lemur_Bacon
at 9:37AM, Aug. 9, 2008
Fenn
That video is the stupidest thing I've seen in a long while. A speech about cooperation with other countries somehow means that he's the next fucking Hitler? Seriously, Hitler? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that crazy bastard less about cooperation and more about domination? Less about friendship and more about the fascism?
Agreed. That video was completely moronic. What made it even more retarded apart from the Hitler thing was the music. In what way did what Obama say even vaguely give rise to the view of him as a conspiracy theorist? I think the Republican Youtubers need to try a little harder to make their failed attempts at propaganda more convincing.
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bravo1102
at 9:15AM, Aug. 10, 2008
In my opinion equating the producers of that video with Republicans is like saying Obama is a Communist.
Paranoid exaggeration and just a trifle specious. The problem with Communism is that most people equate it with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao and their bloodbaths/purges/cultural revolutions/gulags etc. Simply put Marx was a bad historian and totally misread human nature.
Communism can work on a small level in pre-modern cultures (rural villages etc. Read up on peasant culture in China, Russia etc) But trying it in towns and with a money economy it runs afoul of people being people and setting up patterns of interaction and hierarchy that leads to massacre, dictatorship and totalitarianism.
Since the old world order is not doing so well right now and the UN is coming to be seen as a corrupt failure maybe it's time for a New World Order. I just hope it's not Orwell's vision (inspired by what the Nazi and Stalin globalism really meant) of a boot smashing into the face of the people forever...
Paranoid exaggeration and just a trifle specious. The problem with Communism is that most people equate it with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao and their bloodbaths/purges/cultural revolutions/gulags etc. Simply put Marx was a bad historian and totally misread human nature.
Communism can work on a small level in pre-modern cultures (rural villages etc. Read up on peasant culture in China, Russia etc) But trying it in towns and with a money economy it runs afoul of people being people and setting up patterns of interaction and hierarchy that leads to massacre, dictatorship and totalitarianism.
Since the old world order is not doing so well right now and the UN is coming to be seen as a corrupt failure maybe it's time for a New World Order. I just hope it's not Orwell's vision (inspired by what the Nazi and Stalin globalism really meant) of a boot smashing into the face of the people forever...
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