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Artistic Id crisis................Why do you draw the style you do
chee2424
at 9:52AM, Nov. 7, 2007
I've been drawing my comic for several months now. I have benn wondering why people chose the art styles that they do. I'm going to change my comics style, Comic style have been a personal now and then problem for sometime. If anyone reads this, could they tell me why do they draw in that style, Thank you.
http://www.drunkduck.com/The_imaginary_illustrations_of__Mister_Cheatham
two birds with one stone............now thats just f***** up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpUgl-QE5lE
two birds with one stone............now thats just f***** up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpUgl-QE5lE
last edited on July 14, 2011 11:40AM
lastcall
at 10:04AM, Nov. 7, 2007
Hmmm...interesting question. I guess I draw in the style I draw because it just sort of ended up that way, influenced from the places I worked & whatnot.
When I first started drawing as a kid, I loved Disney, so my style was very Disney-esque. Later I would pick up a Jim Lee-drawn 'X-Men' comic book and try to emulate his style. Years later, when I interned at a place run by a guy who worked for Don Bluth, my style was very Don-Bluth-y, filled with cartoony rats & stuff. Then I interned for Spumco (the Ren & Stimpy guys) and I learned how to ink from them. When I was in college, my class and I had the opprotunity to collaborate with Warner Brothers TV and Feature Animation, so I was influenced by the guys who did 'Iron Giant' and 'Batman Beyond'.
All these things together influenced my style, but in the end it is my own. Just as your style is your own, and blah blah blooo.
When I first started drawing as a kid, I loved Disney, so my style was very Disney-esque. Later I would pick up a Jim Lee-drawn 'X-Men' comic book and try to emulate his style. Years later, when I interned at a place run by a guy who worked for Don Bluth, my style was very Don-Bluth-y, filled with cartoony rats & stuff. Then I interned for Spumco (the Ren & Stimpy guys) and I learned how to ink from them. When I was in college, my class and I had the opprotunity to collaborate with Warner Brothers TV and Feature Animation, so I was influenced by the guys who did 'Iron Giant' and 'Batman Beyond'.
All these things together influenced my style, but in the end it is my own. Just as your style is your own, and blah blah blooo.
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subcultured
at 10:08AM, Nov. 7, 2007
i used to be influenced heavily by joe madureria, now i take a lot of influences everywhere.
i'm not really trying to copy other artists anymore.
i'm not really trying to copy other artists anymore.
J
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mlai
at 11:32AM, Nov. 7, 2007
I learned from and copied whatever artists I liked. I looked at the work and said to myself "Why do I like this picture/style?" and I copied what I liked about it. When I moved on, I eventually forget how to copy the style wholesale, but I've already absorbed the essence and it shows thru in my own amalgam style.
last edited on July 14, 2011 2:06PM
Sidwarrious
at 11:47AM, Nov. 7, 2007
I barely doodle past stick figures. If my real works were put up it'd lie somewhere between penis and early Usedbooks in art value, leaning more towards penis. It's sad.
But for Mercs and Mon's sake, its just cuz she loves anime.
But for Mercs and Mon's sake, its just cuz she loves anime.
last edited on July 14, 2011 3:36PM
usedbooks
at 12:51PM, Nov. 7, 2007
I'm usually pretty good at drawing animals , still life, and nature scenes but people... no. When I set out to try, I basically experimented drawing, simplified some features, played with proportions (of course, after drawing "realistic" figures for a while), took a little influence from stuff I watch/read (mostly non-mainstream anime), and then developed over time. I force myself to try tough angles and take the harder road whenever possible. Even if it sucks, it's the only way for me to improve.
The fanart I draw and community project things are usually more detailed because I spend more time on them and am not trying to tell a story and "be consistent." (Plus, I guess I'm concerned about doing justice to other people's characters.)
The fanart I draw and community project things are usually more detailed because I spend more time on them and am not trying to tell a story and "be consistent." (Plus, I guess I'm concerned about doing justice to other people's characters.)
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kyupol
at 1:40PM, Nov. 7, 2007
I was brainwashed by anime at a young age. I also had my share of marvel comics and Tagalog comics (these are usually about prolonged gunfights or demonic stuff)
Since I learned most of the "how to draw" stuff in Canada, I slightly drifted away from the anime/manga style.
Since I learned most of the "how to draw" stuff in Canada, I slightly drifted away from the anime/manga style.
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SarahN
at 2:14PM, Nov. 7, 2007
Because I simply don't picture VP without some anime influence.
I've been trying to add some realistic elements to the style though, since it's a dark story.
I've been trying to add some realistic elements to the style though, since it's a dark story.
last edited on July 14, 2011 3:23PM
lastcall
at 3:32PM, Nov. 7, 2007
kyupol
I was brainwashed by anime at a young age.
If you say Pokemon or Naruto, allow me to smack you with a baseball bat. :dizzy:
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kyupol
at 4:04PM, Nov. 7, 2007
lastcallkyupol
I was brainwashed by anime at a young age.
If you say Pokemon or Naruto, allow me to smack you with a baseball bat. :dizzy:
Lemme see... some of the stuff I remember showing on Philippine TV during my time over there...
- Btx
- Zenki
- Houshin Engi (Soul Hunter)
- Yuyu Hakusho
- Neon Genesis Evangelion
- Dragon Ball
- Dragon Ball Z
- Saber Marionette J
- Rurouni Kenshin
- Shadow Skill
- Gatekeepers
- Time Quest
- Bubblegum Crisis
- Burn Up Excess
- Ghost Sweeper
Stuff I recently seen... (or keep looking at)
- Bleach
- Naruto (shippuuden is better tho)
- Death Note.
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SarahN
at 4:43PM, Nov. 7, 2007
kyupol
- Bubblegum Crisis
KONYA WA HURRICANE!!!
Ugh. No more Mountain Dew for me.
last edited on July 14, 2011 3:23PM
marine
at 12:30AM, Nov. 8, 2007
I watched a lot of Looney Toons and old Hanna Barbera cut and paste cartoons. You can call cel animation what you want, but at the end of the day a lot of it is cut and paste. Reused. Recycled. They use the same poses and facial animations, even newer animated cartons do that. In certain ways that inspired me. In other ways the expressive poses and slap to conventions that spumco cartoons use also influenced me.
I never draw skeletons or anatomy for my artwork. I use a mouse for all my artwork now. Just a regular cheap mouse. I have it sitting on the dvd for the punisher movie. Its what I use to do all my art. A lot of my art looks simple at a glance, but I add a lot of details. Subtle movements between poses. Some people notice. Some people don't. I photos or use them as a reference on a lot of art. Some of it is completely freehanded.
A lot of times I like to use action figures or similar pose able toys to get poses right for my sketches and drawings.
As far as art art goes, I look at works of dadaism or minimalist stuff. The type of abstractions and counter cultural art that anyone without an objective point of view to look at would say was terrible or uncreative. I love surrealism as well. Something about melting clocks or a room full of stairs going everywhere stimulates the mind.
I never draw skeletons or anatomy for my artwork. I use a mouse for all my artwork now. Just a regular cheap mouse. I have it sitting on the dvd for the punisher movie. Its what I use to do all my art. A lot of my art looks simple at a glance, but I add a lot of details. Subtle movements between poses. Some people notice. Some people don't. I photos or use them as a reference on a lot of art. Some of it is completely freehanded.
A lot of times I like to use action figures or similar pose able toys to get poses right for my sketches and drawings.
As far as art art goes, I look at works of dadaism or minimalist stuff. The type of abstractions and counter cultural art that anyone without an objective point of view to look at would say was terrible or uncreative. I love surrealism as well. Something about melting clocks or a room full of stairs going everywhere stimulates the mind.
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lastcall
at 3:15AM, Nov. 8, 2007
marine
I have it sitting on the dvd for the punisher movie.
LOL, good use of that crap movie, says I :)
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mlai
at 6:11AM, Nov. 8, 2007
Hanna Barbara cartoons were visually crap on account of the suits not caring about art but only thinking of budget. It stagnated the cartoon industry in the US for a long time, allowing anime to take over when it came. The stagnation comment is widely accepted by artists and laymen alike; not just my opinion.
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ozoneocean
at 6:17AM, Nov. 8, 2007
My style is influenced by me being only a so-so artist and that being mostly the best I can do without references.
-Honestly that's %100 true regarding my art style.
Other than that, I suppose subconsciously 80's pin-up artists like Chris Achilleos might have some role... And I'd like to emulate the greatness of Frazetta and Carravagio when I do lighting, render muscles, or women's bottoms. ^^ (best part!)
...Oh well, Rembrandt and Vermeer too... I love their scene settings, scene lighting, clothing...
-Honestly that's %100 true regarding my art style.
Other than that, I suppose subconsciously 80's pin-up artists like Chris Achilleos might have some role... And I'd like to emulate the greatness of Frazetta and Carravagio when I do lighting, render muscles, or women's bottoms. ^^ (best part!)
...Oh well, Rembrandt and Vermeer too... I love their scene settings, scene lighting, clothing...
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lastcall
at 8:48AM, Nov. 8, 2007
Carravagio...huzzah, m'lord.
I also am a huge fan of Kandinsky. Good stuff.
I love going to art museums, especially when I'm in a funk and I can't think of anything to draw. It really gets my creative juices flowin'. ...I could spend all day at an art museum. It's quiet and relaxing, and very inspiring. ...You can do that at a Zoo or an amusement park as well. I used to take my sketchbook to the L.A. zoo or Disneyland, and just sketch people passing by, or the animals staring at me. But you can also take your sketchbook to the art museum, and draw the paintings you find inspiring. ....If you're looking for a cheap figure drawing class, try taking your sketchbook to a strip club. But don't be surprised if they throw you out. ;)
I also am a huge fan of Kandinsky. Good stuff.
I love going to art museums, especially when I'm in a funk and I can't think of anything to draw. It really gets my creative juices flowin'. ...I could spend all day at an art museum. It's quiet and relaxing, and very inspiring. ...You can do that at a Zoo or an amusement park as well. I used to take my sketchbook to the L.A. zoo or Disneyland, and just sketch people passing by, or the animals staring at me. But you can also take your sketchbook to the art museum, and draw the paintings you find inspiring. ....If you're looking for a cheap figure drawing class, try taking your sketchbook to a strip club. But don't be surprised if they throw you out. ;)
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TheMidge28
at 8:58AM, Nov. 8, 2007
Noir.
Have always loved the old hard-boiled detective novels and movies and black and white cinema.
And have been greatly influenced by Frank Miller aritsitically.
My hope is to create something different story-wise and artistically.
Have always loved the old hard-boiled detective novels and movies and black and white cinema.
And have been greatly influenced by Frank Miller aritsitically.
My hope is to create something different story-wise and artistically.
last edited on July 14, 2011 4:22PM
Frostflowers
at 9:12AM, Nov. 8, 2007
Partly, it's anime - even though I'm trying to work myself out of that ditch (no flies on anime artists, but it's just not something I feel comfortable drawing any more) - and partly, it's all the non-Japanese cartoons I saw when I was little (and am still watching, to be honest). Disney, French animation, some of the strange Czech cartoons they sometimes aired on TV when I was little - but also some Swedish (and, indeed, other nationalities) children's book illustrators.
Lately, I've been striving to really learn the basics - taking lifedrawing courses, using references, all those things artists are supposed to do - because I know it will be improving my art overall, even if I end up not doing anything hyperrealistic. But like many others before me have said - I've looked at things I like and tried to emulate it, without copying straight off.
At the moment - even though I'm doing NaNoWriMo, and therefore hella caught up in that - I'm working on simplifying my figures, and getting more variations where the faces of my characters are concerned. They look too much alike, because I default to what is easy for me to draw.
Back to the drawingboard!
Lately, I've been striving to really learn the basics - taking lifedrawing courses, using references, all those things artists are supposed to do - because I know it will be improving my art overall, even if I end up not doing anything hyperrealistic. But like many others before me have said - I've looked at things I like and tried to emulate it, without copying straight off.
At the moment - even though I'm doing NaNoWriMo, and therefore hella caught up in that - I'm working on simplifying my figures, and getting more variations where the faces of my characters are concerned. They look too much alike, because I default to what is easy for me to draw.
Back to the drawingboard!
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CharleyHorse
at 10:11AM, Nov. 8, 2007
With me it's pure habit. My childhood inspirations were Marvel and D.C. comics. I did not have a particular art style favorite within that genre. I did not try to emulate the style of any specific artist. I just wanted to be able to draw relatively realistic looking people doing extraordinary things.
Realism was the key.
I'm not a natural as an artist. It took forever to learn how to fake a three dimensional look and to place people and objects in various positions. So force of habit has dictated my art style. Force of habit, that is, in my having worked almost exclusively in the realistic mode of study and production.
I struggle with clarity and entertainment value in my artwork. I want to convey the activity so that it is immediately comprehensible to the casual viewer, but do so in such a way that the environment looks at least somewhat realistic and like I at least vaguely comprehend smoothness-in-technique .
Anyway that's how I got this way, artistically; and it's why I push the pencil in the manner that I do.
Realism was the key.
I'm not a natural as an artist. It took forever to learn how to fake a three dimensional look and to place people and objects in various positions. So force of habit has dictated my art style. Force of habit, that is, in my having worked almost exclusively in the realistic mode of study and production.
I struggle with clarity and entertainment value in my artwork. I want to convey the activity so that it is immediately comprehensible to the casual viewer, but do so in such a way that the environment looks at least somewhat realistic and like I at least vaguely comprehend smoothness-in-technique .
Anyway that's how I got this way, artistically; and it's why I push the pencil in the manner that I do.
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Exzachly
at 1:02PM, Nov. 8, 2007
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kitsunesan
at 6:38AM, Nov. 11, 2007
Well, the style I use, if somewhat manga+ furry...or sometime, just a kind of manga....I have been developing that style for quite a while, whn I first started, I tried to emulate, many manga artists, like Nobuhiro watsuki (Kenshin), Akira Toriyama (Dragon Ball), Nobuyuki Anzai ( Flame of Recca), and many others, but whne I copied one style, I couldnt done enterely, because I suck, when it comes to copy...so I tried to change, every style, and finally developed, something that I call mine...a weird kind of japanesse style...with some peruvian trademarks...and I still use it , mostly because, my body remember how to draw them in that style, so meh...thats it
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crazyninny
at 11:34AM, Nov. 11, 2007
I grew up watching a lot of cartoon shows, so I tried to copy them. Once I got into anime my style soaked some styles of that up. Now that I'm looking at more realism art, by style is changing to look realistic but still cartoony.
But mostly why I draw this way is becuase it makes me happy. ^_^
But mostly why I draw this way is becuase it makes me happy. ^_^
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lastcall
at 11:55AM, Nov. 11, 2007
crazyninny
But mostly why I draw this way is becuase it makes me happy. ^_^
Good answer. That's what it all boils down to, really. If you're not happy drawing what you draw, then there's no point. :)
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kitsunesan
at 6:18PM, Nov. 11, 2007
yeah, draw to be happy, unmm I agree with that too...but its difficult to find people, who doesnt do comics for fun in this site...or at least I dont know, of no one like that...then again I dont know that much people xD
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crazyninny
at 6:51PM, Nov. 11, 2007
Thanks Lastcall! Its hard to explain that to a lot of people for some reason, that I draw becuase I makes me happy. But, I don't think it really matters if they understand or not, becuase I know its making me, and my viewers happy to see me drawing. ^_^
And your really do have to be happy doing comics here if you want to keep doing what you like. I've actually meet 2 people who hated to draw, but wanted to be comic artist... Long story short, the left DD.
And your really do have to be happy doing comics here if you want to keep doing what you like. I've actually meet 2 people who hated to draw, but wanted to be comic artist... Long story short, the left DD.
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kitsunesan
at 7:10PM, Nov. 11, 2007
wow, hated to draw, but wanted to be comic artist unmm thats weird, maybe the script creator...but well...its logic, that someone tha doenst like what they do ...just poof leave..
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marine
at 1:30AM, Nov. 12, 2007
mlai
Hanna Barbara cartoons were visually crap on account of the suits not caring about art but only thinking of budget. It stagnated the cartoon industry in the US for a long time, allowing anime to take over when it came. The stagnation comment is widely accepted by artists and laymen alike; not just my opinion.
And anime hasn't? I know lots of people who think its cheaply done. The animation barely moves!
Also the stylistic choice to do my comic the way I do is for the aesthetic value of it, its supposed to be really lame and awful looking. Lots of typographical and grammatical errors. Positions that aren't anatomically possible. Scenes that drag on too long or are over too quickly. Theres a lot of intentional errors in penis. Belive it or not I've upped the quality of the art a lot. It used to look a lot worse.
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Tantz Aerine
at 6:28AM, Nov. 12, 2007
I loved Herge's capacity to convey so much in expression with such simple composition- in terms of how he drew faces. I loved (and still do) the way he drew the hands. Exquisite drawing there! I also respected a lot the detail he surrounded his characters' environments with, but that was something I had no patience with...
I love plays with colour, where the background colour reflects the mood or some other aspect of emotionality- I think I got that from some of Lucky Luke's issues, and some anime features where the characters' emotions change the background for a while for dramatic effect.
I took more interest in fight scenes that may be very choreographed but can seem (not at all be) plausible, and I think that came from Jackie Chan movies.
Add to the mix my feelings that a story can be dark without being especially moping or emo, and scary without too much gore (just make sure that if a gun fires, chances are someone will be hit and that the bad guys are actually acceptable aims/ good at what they do), and you got my style :)
...for Wolf, anyway. I am planning another comic which I hope will have a different feel.
I love plays with colour, where the background colour reflects the mood or some other aspect of emotionality- I think I got that from some of Lucky Luke's issues, and some anime features where the characters' emotions change the background for a while for dramatic effect.
I took more interest in fight scenes that may be very choreographed but can seem (not at all be) plausible, and I think that came from Jackie Chan movies.
Add to the mix my feelings that a story can be dark without being especially moping or emo, and scary without too much gore (just make sure that if a gun fires, chances are someone will be hit and that the bad guys are actually acceptable aims/ good at what they do), and you got my style :)
...for Wolf, anyway. I am planning another comic which I hope will have a different feel.
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JustNoPoint
at 6:56AM, Nov. 12, 2007
I draw in my current style because it is "what my style became" =P
I didn't actually have a "style" I wanted to draw in. I just wanted to draw better. I started off attempting to draw like Rumiko Takahashi's Ranma after I fell in love with the anime. After a few years I started to dislike the anime style and started to draw more cutting edge super hero style... looking at Spawn, and J Scott Campbell's early Gen 13.
For the longest I tried to produce a style somewhat similar to J Scott Campbell. I then started collecting lots of how to draw books. I started off with the real life drawing types then the more generic superhero types. Drawing Dynamic Comics and Cutting Edge comics being some of my favorite references.
Later the how to draw manga started to flood it's way in. Having already bought most of the superhero how to draw stuff I wanted I began getting some of the how to draw mangas. Most are not really very useful for looking at art, but reading many of the fundamentals got me back on the road to drawing more anime-ish.
It also seems easier for me to make wild poses with the manga-ish style. Something I fell in love with in the Darkstalkers fighting game series.
I didn't actually have a "style" I wanted to draw in. I just wanted to draw better. I started off attempting to draw like Rumiko Takahashi's Ranma after I fell in love with the anime. After a few years I started to dislike the anime style and started to draw more cutting edge super hero style... looking at Spawn, and J Scott Campbell's early Gen 13.
For the longest I tried to produce a style somewhat similar to J Scott Campbell. I then started collecting lots of how to draw books. I started off with the real life drawing types then the more generic superhero types. Drawing Dynamic Comics and Cutting Edge comics being some of my favorite references.
Later the how to draw manga started to flood it's way in. Having already bought most of the superhero how to draw stuff I wanted I began getting some of the how to draw mangas. Most are not really very useful for looking at art, but reading many of the fundamentals got me back on the road to drawing more anime-ish.
It also seems easier for me to make wild poses with the manga-ish style. Something I fell in love with in the Darkstalkers fighting game series.
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Broken Minds
at 7:47AM, Nov. 12, 2007
I'd have to say my style is more from preferance and need than anything else. I grew up drawing batman and superman and the xmen pretty heavily. As I got a little older I fell heavily in love with Spawn. McFarlenes, and later Capullo's hand was just something to dream of to me.
But as I tried to do my own stuff I found out that I could only get so much done at a time due to the detail and complexity in it.
And then I found Anime. It was cartoony, which simplified the art, but it wasn't harsh on the eye and had an edge to it. Alot of America superhero cartoons just didn't do it for me. Like the Batman Animated Series and Superman after it. It just seemed too...forced.
So I chose to use a more simplified but as detailed as possible version that I can get, and it's always changing. You can see it in the first chapter of Samurai Perfect, each page is a new experience for me. It's constantly evolving and growing as time goes.
But as I tried to do my own stuff I found out that I could only get so much done at a time due to the detail and complexity in it.
And then I found Anime. It was cartoony, which simplified the art, but it wasn't harsh on the eye and had an edge to it. Alot of America superhero cartoons just didn't do it for me. Like the Batman Animated Series and Superman after it. It just seemed too...forced.
So I chose to use a more simplified but as detailed as possible version that I can get, and it's always changing. You can see it in the first chapter of Samurai Perfect, each page is a new experience for me. It's constantly evolving and growing as time goes.
last edited on July 14, 2011 11:35AM
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