This is a trial thread for readers and writers of adult comics on DD to discuss the subject.
-If you do, please try not to be too explicit, label any links to questionable content with NSFW, and keep the discussion to an "M" rating.

Ok, I'll start... (All links NSFW)
Some good Adult comics at DD that I have in my faves are GRIND , LOVEMAGIC , M Organ Art , A Call to Destiny NC 17 , The Naked Nurse , Sexy Bouncin Oppai Troopers , and Pr0nCrest .

Anyone know any others?

Sort of NSFW - View of Venus seems to be fairly good so far, although there's not too much of it up yet. Although, it's rated "M" and it's not too explicit as far as nudity goes, so I'm not sure it's what you had in mind.

Uh..Read it anyway! lol!

Heh! Well the idea came from the NSFW thread in the Top Drawer. ^^

Venus looks fun! I've added it to my faves ^^

hmmm .. sounds like a cool idea, i'm not sure what to post here , i wonder if it will get locked .
if we start talking about anatomy it might get locked
or if we link to lots of porno, it could get locked ?

i'm curious , can i post whatever i want in my own DD blog ? since it would only be accesable through GRINDs home page .

because i feel like any discussion about technique or creation process is gunna get X rated fast

lothar
if we start talking about anatomy it might get locked
or if we link to lots of porno, it could get locked ?

You can discuss anatomy, just try to keep it M rated. Try not to link to porno, just adult comics on DD.

Other threads here discuss breasts... I dunno, we don't have to get too specific about genitalia, if you talk about it in a dry, mature way it's ok, but that's not what adult comics are about... It's a tricky line.
No... Best just to stick to general stuff and try and keep it M. Maybe talk about poses, positions, story arcs?

As for your own blog/forum, go crazy, it's already restricted. :)

that's all fine and good for the folks who wanna keep it dry and medical like .
i just have trouble doing that , especially if we are talking about a "how to", how can you discuss how to draw a nice box without a visual ?
i'm gunna go ahead and set up my forum over at GRIND for anybody who want's to hit the slip n slide !
post whetever you want related to "creating comic porno"

EDIT - i removed the link cuz it lets me go there when i'm not logged in !

Only one A rated comic comes to mind, and that is my penis. Sure, today its rated M but that could change at any moment. It has guys with dicks on their faces, a man giving out abortions with power tools, and black people. How offensive could it possibly be!?

Hey Lothar, you wouldn't happen to know or be related to Abraxa [abraxa.darklands.cx] would you? He used to frequent a forum I go to a long time ago and your art style and use of hi-lighters, tech pens, and pigment markers. I don't know if you color by hand or digitally, but your art seems to follow him pretty closely.

wierd .. this is the first i ever heard of this Abraxa, i can't check out the site rite now cuz i'm at work , but looks interesting !

What does everyone think about monsters made out of certain body parts terrorizing villages? I'm thinking a guy with a top hat, monocle, and cane with a british attitude made out of penises in the style of malburo (i think thats how its spelled) from final fantasy.... well probably not just like malburo... My question is this I guess:

Done to death? Not worth the effort?

Also checking out Abraxa's stuff has also givin me the want to create bondage machines with pistols and buzz saws attached. I envy that guys talent... I only wish I liked the whole sadism thing enough to devote my time to developing that kind of style. I like it but why the fetish is appealing is beyond me.

Along the lines of Abraxa being like Lothar, I can see where you are coming from in theory angry_black_guy but the approach and feel to their over all work makes them worlds apart. I would agree the coloring is at times similar but their lines are so completely different (I consider lines just as if not more important than color in this case due to the distinct styles) that I don't think saying their art is very similar would be accurate. I'd deffinately say just plain old similar but similar to the way garfield is similar to peanuts, same types of colors but if you drew Jon into the charlie brown gang you could tell the difference in two shakes of a lambs tail.

I personally adore both your work.

Eww! Lothar's work is about people having fun. Abraxa seems to be about women dyeing with their bottoms sticking out of the mouth of some monster... :(

Demon Eater's next story arc will have HER return. So I guess there will be a lot more nudity, but no sex.

I hope I don't end up following some of these trends. Then again I don't have the guts to do a boy+boy love comic... yet...

Abraxa reminds me of a lot of scenes where a tentacle monster causes women to explode... literally. Hence why I'd rather not draw that kinda thing...

My comic was originally going to be a great deal more kinky, and that is in fact where the initial plot came from. After showing the first three pages to some people I knew and they became really interested in what was happening, I naturally chickened out and made the plot for a more general audience.

It's not going to change the plot much, however. It's just a minor tweak, and only requiring a minor tweak to change a story from an adult to a non-adult story I feel is a huge advantage that this story had.

that abraxa guys site is a mess , navagation-wise , i can't veiw any of the images , even when i enable java , but what i saw from the thumbs was enuf , creeps me out, why anyone would devote themselves to that kind of thing is beyond me and i hope my work bears a similarity only in color use , i realy don't understand a lot of these different fetishes , byproducts of a sexually repressive society

Just because I think Lothar should know this, I think your writing on GRIND makes it that much better. The art and the way you put across the action's awesome in general, but how you spell the words is just tight. :)

GRIND is awesome. That is all. Everyone should read it. <3

One of my great ambitions is to do a porn comic.

Not an erotica comic - I could do that now if I wanted to. But to do a real porn comic, you have to be a real master of anatomy. "porn" (by definition, I think) has to inspire arousal and lust.

I dream of being that good at anatomy and figure drawing!

For now, Im just happy if people say "So, is that supposed to be... a person?"

I tell ya, adult comics can be hard to do. For some of us, a stigma gets attached when we do comics like this. Such comics aren't something just anyone can do, I suppose. Still, it can be a lot of fun. :)

kennatsu
I tell ya, adult comics can be hard to do. For some of us, a stigma gets attached when we do comics like this. Such comics aren't something just anyone can do, I suppose. Still, it can be a lot of fun. :)

Honestly, I don't think there is a stigma attatched to it~ I asked people what they thought of artists who did porn/erotic artwork and most people said they respected it more than anything else. Not just because of how difficult it is to draw (perfect anatomy, weird angles, making all the ugly bits look pretty...) but because they respected the artist having the guts to actually draw it~ X3

I'm planning/drawing an adult comic right now... no pages up yet but I'm really excited just to draw it and show off my perverted side. ^o^ It's also liberating, y'know? Not limiting yourself to certain preconcieved barriers and just letting it all hang out. B)



Thank you for the reccomendations too guys. GRIND just found a new fan. *.*

Yeah.... I guess I should be proud of myself for having the guts (or is it insanity?) to draw my comic.

Drawing the thing has proven to be very liberating, but I still have barriers I haven't crossed yet.

Here's a question I've been debating. What is the line between a mature comic and an adult comic?

I'm sure adult would for sure be yaoi or any kind of sex.

Is there other content that would make a adult comic?

I'm really worried about full frontal nudity. One would think it'd be in the adult section ,but I've seen comics such as Two Moons get away with having it in teen.

What do you think? Would full frontal nudity be okay in a mature rated comic?

JillyFoo
Here's a question I've been debating. What is the line between a mature comic and an adult comic?

It's more or less the explicitness of innuendo/sex, violence, or profanity. Mature is 'some of that is okay' and Adult is 'there's a lot of it'. If a sexual encounter were implied but not shown it would probably be M.

I'm really worried about full frontal nudity. One would think it'd be in the adult section ,but I've seen comics such as Two Moons get away with having it in teen.

Two Moons should be in Mature then. Could you link me to one of the pages in question? If it's just nudity with no sex going on there's no need for it to be Adult, but any nudity at all makes it M. (If it's tastefully hidden nudity then it can be Teen. Just taking the nipples off would still make it M though because that's not hiding, that's just omitting a superfluous detail.) Again it's hard to define it with details like that because as each comic is different, it has to be taken on a case by case basis- but there are general guidelines I tend to follow. It usually does end up being about the gut instinct of an admin though.

kennatsu
I tell ya, adult comics can be hard to do. For some of us, a stigma gets attached when we do comics like this.

That's why a pen name is usually a good idea.

Not that anyone is fooled, but it serves as a rating & gives a degree of separation from stuff done under my "other" name.

skoolmunkee
Two Moons should be in Mature then. Could you link me to one of the pages in question? If it's just nudity with no sex going on there's no need for it to be Adult, but any nudity at all makes it M. (If it's tastefully hidden nudity then it can be Teen. Just taking the nipples off would still make it M though because that's not hiding, that's just omitting a superfluous detail.)

Hmm... It's tricky...
Basically there is a character who doesn't wear clothing because he's not entirely human and doesn't feel the need. What you see is a little scribble of his penis. But it's completely non-sexual nudity, it's the kind of nudity you see naturally in a documentary or at a nude beach or something, just normal.

Grr... personally I wouldn't class it as M because of that, but if those are the rules, they're the rules.. See Jarren's wedding tackle here for reference^^

skoolmunkee

JillyFoo
Here's a question I've been debating. What is the line between a mature comic and an adult comic?

It's more or less the explicitness of innuendo/sex, violence, or profanity. Mature is 'some of that is okay' and Adult is 'there's a lot of it'. If a sexual encounter were implied but not shown it would probably be M.

I'm really worried about full frontal nudity. One would think it'd be in the adult section ,but I've seen comics such as Two Moons get away with having it in teen.

Two Moons should be in Mature then. Could you link me to one of the pages in question? If it's just nudity with no sex going on there's no need for it to be Adult, but any nudity at all makes it M. (If it's tastefully hidden nudity then it can be Teen. Just taking the nipples off would still make it M though because that's not hiding, that's just omitting a superfluous detail.) Again it's hard to define it with details like that because as each comic is different, it has to be taken on a case by case basis- but there are general guidelines I tend to follow. It usually does end up being about the gut instinct of an admin though.

Well, this is an interesting question. My comic QUEERBAIT is currently rated Teen...which I rated it because it's a gay comic...but if it was a movie it would probably only be PG. (Except for giant Penisaurus monster on the cover.) There's minimum profanity (like saying damn or ass, not even the F bomb), only chest up nudity (men), and only one kiss in the whole first issue. It's VERY tame for a gay comic book.

But...

I have one story coming up in which the characters are naked throughout the story. All the panels are cropped so that you don't see any lower than their hip bones...except for the last two panels in which you see their bare butts.

Should I change my rating to MATURE just for two panels???

skoolmunkee
If it's just nudity with no sex going on there's no need for it to be Adult, but any nudity at all makes it M.

Perhaps you should explain that to the cartoonist of Bikini Blow Up . He seems to think the rules don't apply to him.

MOrgan

skoolmunkee
If it's just nudity with no sex going on there's no need for it to be Adult, but any nudity at all makes it M.

Perhaps you should explain that to the cartoonist of Bikini Blow Up . He seems to think the rules don't apply to him.

Rules are interpretive, I refer you to my post here in this very thread:

ozoneocean
But it's completely non-sexual nudity, it's the kind of nudity you see naturally in a documentary or at a nude beach or something, just normal.

If nudity or even violence can be justified some way (they aren't there simply for titillation), allowances can be made on a case by cases basis. Rules, like laws aren't simply about actions, they're also about intent.

Well, there are some things which are open to interpretation, but there are a few rules we have to follow. The ratings guidelines say specifically "no nudity" for T+, so if they're nude, it's M. Almost all the admins are in agreement about that. :)

Butts (if it's only two pages) could be teen - it's not a very 'sensitive' area (if you know what I mean) and you can see bare butts on the simpsons. So the above example sounds fine (although it MIGHT depend on the dialogue, if it's overtly sexual it would push toward M.)

You would NOT see bare breasts or male genitals on the simpsons. If they're tastefully covered (think of the episode where Marge and Homer had to sneak home naked) it can be T.

I dunno why I keep interpreting the ratings in terms of The Simpsons, but I do. I suppose I find it a useful yardstick. :)