yes... there are still people out there today who think the earth is flat. They believe there is a giant icewall that keeps us from falling off the edge...

Am I lying?

See your yourself http://theflatearthsociety.org/

I went to the forums, and took a look.... Are they retarded? Good thing you didn't put this in the "Debate and Discussion" forums, because it would be compleatly one-sided! I know there are some stupid people here, but no one's retarded! What the hell?! Haven't they seen Earth from space? They say look at the 1/4 moon around noon. I say look at a lunar eclipse! You can see Earth's shadow during an lunar eclipse, and it is ROUND

Even people from thousands of years ago belived the Earth was flat, but when they relized what a lunar eclipse really was, they knew that the Earth is round.

its not a debate... its just stupid, I mean, they have no evidence or anything. There aren't any grounds for a debate.

People are stupid. Most people still believe that Chris Columbus 's purpose on his famous voyage was to sail around the earth in order to prove that it was round... jebus. Fricken morons.
He had other goals...

Ah well. I like the old Norse Idea that we all live in a gigantic world tree with the gods at the top and the nasty serpents and the land of death bellow

Well everyone, I've made it my job to prove there dumbasses wrong! If you are reading their forums, look for "Dagon" (Cthulhu was taken...)

You guys are so ignorant.
The earth IS flat.

Round earth is a government conspiracy as is NASA

Don't bother harassing them, it's just an exercise in sophistry-arguing for its own sake. They don't really believe it.
I say let them have their fun.

But what IF the earth was flat and the sun and stars rotated around it? What would it look like then?

It would look exactly like it does now!

If you believe that earth is flat, then the basics of spherical trigonometry are gonna continue to elude you (along with almost everything else). What are they putting into the vodka these days?

Don't forget the tounge and cheek nod to other ludicrous unscientific beliefs that fly in the face of the facts, like creationism

They do understand that if that were true we'd all freeze to death, right? Also they contradict themselves. They say everything in the universe is moving "upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity." But that couldn't happen because if that were true than the sun couldn't dissapear because it can't move faster than 1g. So it couldn't ever dissapear.

Also they contradict themselves farther down in the FAQ when they say Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"
A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull."

I thought they just said a few questions up that there WASN'T any gravity?!

LAWL TARD

That's all I got to say.

What the hell is an 'earth'?

the planet you live on, are you foreign?

What the hell is 'sarcasm'?

Pshaw. We all know the earth is flat. And it sits on top of 4 elephants who stand on top of a turtle who flies through space! Duh!

Shhh, he likes Zelda

We don't live on the Diskworld, we live in the World Tree! Midgard!

I fully endorse this idea.

Well, I've been talking to them for only a few hours, and I can tell you the sad fact that they are dead serious. They honestly belive that the Earth is flat. Also, that the Sun is only 3000 miles away. And only 32 miles across.

Hawhat?!? That's the dubmest idea anyone has ever come up with since Ceasar gave Brutus a souvenir knife when he got back from Egypt.

But that's their thought, and it's obvious it's not just some fat nerd kids, just trying to screw around. Although I hate to admit it, there are quite good at defending their idea. But their still wrong.

Bah, they can believe wrong facts if they like. It's still dumb, I mean what with the all uncontroverbial(is that even a word?) evidence. Haven't they even been in outer space? No I guess they haven't.

Oh yes, they've seen the pictures of the Earth from outer space, but they belive it is a conspiracy (Which also is their favorite word.) , and say it is a government cover-up.

Best. Maths. Ever.

I love that the earth is flat cause it looks that way. XD;;

Well, I'm back from their froums, and, well, I won. I won an argument with their most talkitive person (over 9000 posts) It was way easier than I thought. Since I won, everyone else there is pissed at me, so I just left.

I find it funny that the "Complete Nonsense" subforum makes much more sense than anything, anything, on that forum. Ah, flat earth. When have you failed?

Psh, Google Earth is wrong. The earth is flat.

After checking this for myself, I can't really say you 'won'. It's more like the other people just let you shout yourself into a stupor.

Actually, the way their model works is that the earth is a flat disc, mapped out the way it appears on the UN logo, and the sun and moon basically swirl around in the upper atmosphere. ...or "the firmament". Whatever.

Anyway, there's a very obvious logistics problem here. In this model, the sun and moon are above the planet at all times. That means that no matter what time of day it was, and no matter where you were on the planet, the sun is always visible. No amount of perspective illusions is going to make it seem as if the sun is setting. Rather, it should be making circles in the sky. This is easily comparable to the way the sun remains visible for six months in the arctic.

If you run into someone to whom this is not immediately obvious, just walk away slowly. You're not going to get through to them, regardless of what logic you use.

People who subscribe to magical thinking will always place a secondary priority on science and reason.

Actually, it's funny when you watch creationists try to distance themselves from flat-earthers, because the only difference between the two is the degree of literalism applied to one's religion. It's hilarious when you see a creationist point out that that verses like Genesis 1:16 are absurd if taken literally but then fail to see the irony of his argument.

[Edit Note] I almost forgot to point out the extreme irony of a flat earth website, which is beamed around the world, courtesy of an array of satellites orbiting the planet.

It's like taking a big breath to deny the existence of air.

I doupt that most of them seriously believe the earth is flat, it seems more like they just do it to try cause flame wars just for fun.

Morons! All of you! The earth is an octagon! XO