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Nov 8,`09 9:41am | Quote |


Warning: PDF may take long to load.
http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speeches.pdf

Read the work of Dr. Milton Erickson if you think this is yet another right-wing hitpiece.

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Nov 8,`09 10:29am | Quote |

Oh god, really? Are we honestly going to consider "being a persuasive speaker" a form of hypnosis now? If that's the case, then Ozone is using hypnotism in his posts, because I tend to agree with him, even if he's saying something crazy.

You'll really believe anything if it vindicates your hatred of the government, won't you?

Look, I'm not saying that Obama doesn't say things in a way that gets people to agree with him, with or without actual evidence to support his statements. But so does a Burger King commercial. This is like saying that parents "hypnotize" their children when they tell them about Santa Claus or The Tooth Fairy. I don't want to say that it's not dishonest, but using overdramatic terminology like "hypnotism" just makes the writer look reactionary and foolish.

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Nov 8,`09 10:59am | Quote |

This reminds me of that list of architects and engineers who said the world trade centers couldn't have fallen the way they did. I thought that was absolutely hilarious once I looked up some of the architects and found they were things like health care architects who would have no expertise in high-rise buildings.

 
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Nov 8,`09 11:05am | Quote |

Personally I find this ridiculous.
EDIT: And I'm not even clicking on the damn thing. It's probably just bullshit about reptoids that puke out money and the government are secretly them or something.

Also, a little known fact about Obama:
Obama's failure can cure cancer. Unfortunately, he has never been able to cure anyone.

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Nov 8,`09 11:08am | Quote |

Boy, kyupol is on a roll now.

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Nov 8,`09 12:32pm | Quote |

"crocty" Said:

Personally I find this ridiculous.
EDIT: And I'm not even clicking on the damn thing. It's probably just bullshit about reptoids that puke out money and the government are secretly them or something.

Also, a little known fact about Obama:
Obama's failure can cure cancer. Unfortunately, he has never been able to cure anyone.


It's mostly about how common speaking techniques are just a means to corrupt the minds of the foolish masses. Like bringing up families in relatively unrelated categories to stir up sympathy and using hand gestures to appear open and comforting. That and using catchy slogans that people can support without actually "supporting" any specific thing.

Basically the same shit people running for student body president try to do as early as Junior High; Obama's just better at it.



Also, who wrote this anyway? All I see is that the techniques themselves are attributed to Dr. Milton Erickson, but I couldn't find anywhere where the actual author is credited. The "Penny Press" site it's hosted on seems to just be a haven for people who are too smug and opinionated for professional journalism.

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Nov 8,`09 1:38pm | Quote |

"Inkmonkey" Said:

It's mostly about how common speaking techniques are just a means to corrupt the minds of the foolish masses. Like bringing up families in relatively unrelated categories to stir up sympathy and using hand gestures to appear open and comforting. That and using catchy slogans that people can support without actually "supporting" any specific thing.
Oh for goodness sake! That's justasugjasglsjgj
Kyupol you fool! You are a foolish fool! You must know this!

Another small fact about Obama:
Scientists have theorised that the power of the big bang is equivalent to one OGG (Obama's Gracious Grin)

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Nov 8,`09 5:18pm | Quote |

"Dr. Milton Erickson"?

......oh, the hypnosis crackpot. you're on a (T)roll Kyupol, really you are.

 
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Nov 8,`09 7:42pm | Quote |

They only love him because he saved the day

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Nov 9,`09 1:02am | Quote |

This is stupid. Stop doing this.

 
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Nov 9,`09 8:37am | Quote |

No, not hypnosis...

Jedi Mindtrick.





 
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Nov 10,`09 10:17am | Quote |

Wow so they finally figured out that persausive public speaking can get people to listen to and follow you?

Wow.

I guess kyupol never took those public speaking classes and competed in forensics when he was in HS.



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Nov 10,`09 7:55pm | Quote |

"BffSatan" Said:

This is stupid. Stop doing this.


no, i want him to keep going until he posts something so crackpot he finally breaks and regrets his life!

 
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Nov 11,`09 1:08am | Quote |

"Orin J Master" Said:

"BffSatan" Said:

This is stupid. Stop doing this.


no, i want him to keep going until he posts something so crackpot he finally breaks and regrets his life!


It is not in the nature of his mind set to ever allow evidence to ever win over belief. According to him we're the dupes and he's the only one able to see the Truth.

The most overwhelming of evidence will only make him even more entrenched in his beliefs.

The beliefs are never challenged only the evidence disputed.



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Nov 11,`09 8:22pm | Quote |

Ironic, I can find plenty of examples where this essay uses techniques designed to "hypnotize" the reader.

Also PDFs are the worst idea in history.

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Nov 12,`09 2:53am | Quote |

"Inkmonkey" Said:
even if he's saying something crazy.
But I never say anything crazy.
Now you must believe that ^__^

"Atom Apple" Said:
Also PDFs are the worst idea in history.
Adobe did well with Photoshop but it's always smurfed its smurfing PDF. It's a great format in many respects, especially for vector images and portable readable documents across all platforms (WAY better that shizzy MS Word), but it really needs better automatic file size management, and the way it handles on the web is a nightmare sometimes, depending on the browser or the document.

Doing Graphic Design the biggest issue I have is that it smurfs up the fonts people use! SUCH a pain! >:|
-If I don't have the font they used or if the PDF was created with any program other than illustrator or Adobe Acrobat.
That's so irritating because it doesn't have to do that. It KNOW'S exactly how the font should look and all it has to do it automatically convert it to outlines. But it doesn't.
The only way around it is to open the document in Photoshop and get that to render the font how it should look in raster format and then use that as a model in Illustrator to re-draw it. -_-

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Nov 12,`09 4:36am | Quote |

i was kinda interested until i saw that i have to go to a damned pdf. im more angry at that than anything
try harder

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Nov 12,`09 8:34am | Quote |

"lothar" Said:

i was kinda interested until i saw that i have to go to a damned pdf. im more angry at that than anything
try harder


there's nothing wrong with PDFs. it's just that they have no place online and anyone that thinks they're something to link to is a soulless, baby murdering animal molester ad should be pummeled without mercy by all right-thinking protectors of freedom with their freedom bats.

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Nov 12,`09 9:56am | Quote |

hypnotoad!

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Nov 21,`09 1:26pm | Quote |

Burgers are good. Go eat one.

Seriously?

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Nov 23,`09 12:04am | Quote |

"Puff_Of_Smoke" Said:

Burgers are good. Go eat one.

Seriously?


JIMMY BUFFET is that you?

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