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Nov 6,`09 4:42pm | Quote |

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1224489/Psychic-plug-brain-thoughts-screen-developed.html



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Nov 6,`09 5:23pm | Quote |

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm sure I'd notice if an MRI scanner was suddenly around my head.


 
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Nov 6,`09 6:10pm | Quote |

Can't wait for all the serial killers and pedophiles to get brainfucked and get thrown in prison.
Yessss cannot wait



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Nov 6,`09 7:05pm | Quote |

"kyupol" Said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1224489/Psychic-plug-brain-thoughts-screen-developed.html



Think freely while you still can.


Honestly, do you really think that the only use for these innovations is domination by a totalitarian regime, or do you just always speak in hyberbole to try and be interesting?

 
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Nov 6,`09 8:26pm | Quote |

this could also be used to help blind people.

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Nov 6,`09 8:55pm | Quote |

"kyupol" Said:

Lies.


Crack must be one hell of a drug.


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Nov 6,`09 10:58pm | Quote |

Finally, the technology to flip people off with my mind.

 
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Nov 7,`09 12:13pm | Quote |

"lothar" Said:

this could also be used to help blind people.


If by that you mean help them to forfeit all their freedoms!

 
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Nov 7,`09 12:31pm | Quote |

"lothar" Said:

this could also be used to help blind people.
I don't think so... According to that pic they have to see something first before they get any brain activity, so to help the blind you'd need to do things in reverse, but how do you reproduce the specific brain activity that makes the colours and shapes?
...Maybe if you had access to their optic nerves, assuming those were still intact, and you knew what types of impulses to send through those, perhaps that could be a viable interface?

Seems a little invasive though.
I know you can use sensors that just stick on the side of your head for certain activities, which would be preferable, but interacting with the brain's vision centres seems a bit complex for those?

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If by that you mean help them to forfeit all their freedoms!
What other reason could there be? We all know what makes you go blind...
Dirty, dirty blind people.

 
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Nov 7,`09 1:06pm | Quote |

When I saw the title for this thread, I had one guess as to who created it. I was right.

I really do think the process could be reverse-engineer to help people have sight. If you can interpret the brainwaves to make the picture come on screen, then why not figure out how to replicated and create the brainwaves? Then, a vision-impaired person could mount a small camera into their head and have it pipe those replicated brainwaves into their visual cortex.

At least, it's a fun idea.

And I don't buy the idea of it being some sort of monitoring device or "thought police" apparatus... after all, it only sees what you're currently looking at. And the guy running the machine can already tell you're watching a Steve Martin movie. Create a machine that can see your memories, then we have a problem.

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Nov 7,`09 1:13pm | Quote |

"lothar" Said:
this could also be used to help blind people.

They already have something similar.





They're doing tons of stuff related to bionic technology today. Artificial arms and legs that respond to nerve impulses and hearing aids for deaf people.

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Nov 7,`09 1:26pm | Quote |

PP has the device. STill, seems a bit invasive... Now if they could do that same sort of thing with sensors just stuck on the sides of your head, that'd be even better
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Create a machine that can see your memories, then we have a problem.
They probably could you know. Vision and memories of vision are pretty similar inside the brain.
And with something like dreams-
Ever wonder why dreams feel so real? When you touch, taste, see, smell, or hear things? It's because the same parts of your brain are producing those sensations as they are when you're awake and they produce them after interpreting real stimuli.

...That being said, with this device in reverse, especially using the one PP shows there, you could pretty easily give people false visions.
Or it could be a great new way to deliver entrainment.
Man... no more flat screens, instead you just see it directly inside your head.

Pretty cool ^__^

 
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Nov 7,`09 2:32pm | Quote |

I can't wait for them to use this in Playstation 9!


 
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Nov 7,`09 5:28pm | Quote |

"Warpedwenger" Said:

I can't wait for them to use this in Playstation 9!


Only if Sony doesn't use it to take over the earth!

 
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Nov 7,`09 6:57pm | Quote |

This really has nothing to do with what you think though does it? It's only capable of replaying visual imagery. Chances are good that it can't put an abstract thought into the form of a picture just an image that someone has seen. So another words, if you only thought about blowing up a building then this thing won't detect that.

Besides, we've had technology that was capable of determining what a person was thinking about by reading the portions of their brain that lit up, for several years, and they've yet to start implanting that into folk's brains.

 
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Nov 7,`09 7:54pm | Quote |

"lba" Said:

Besides, we've had technology that was capable of determining what a person was thinking about by reading the portions of their brain that lit up, for several years, and they've yet to start implanting that into folk's brains.


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Nov 7,`09 9:07pm | Quote |

"people" Said:
could help the blind



as PP kinda pointed out, the blind technology is already in use, and this thing that kyupol is pointing out, is actually an offshoot of that, and not the other way around

2002 Popular mechanics article

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health_medicine/1281076.html


also, i've found a google chrome bug that if i touch any of the edit buttons (ie: underline, italics quote etc...) up top, it automatically replies to the thread.

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Nov 7,`09 9:40pm | Quote |

all that does it relay impulses from optic nerves to a monitor. calling it "brain activity" is like calling the case of your computer electronics, you're generalizing to make it sound more impressive than it is.

it can't read thoughts anymore the humorman can tell a joke.

 
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Nov 7,`09 9:56pm | Quote |

"Orin J Master" Said:

it can't read thoughts anymore the humorman can tell a joke.



 
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Nov 8,`09 9:38pm | Quote |

"Orin J Master" Said:

all that does it relay impulses from optic nerves to a monitor. calling it "brain activity" is like calling the case of your computer electronics, you're generalizing to make it sound more impressive than it is.

it can't read thoughts anymore the humorman can tell a joke.

I still think it's a tad scary. It's not that far yet, but how long until it is?

I know it probably sounds paranoid, but it's only a matter of time before they start making technology to interpret thoughts.


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Nov 8,`09 9:48pm | Quote |

"therealtj" Said:
I know it probably sounds paranoid, but it's only a matter of time before they start making technology to interpret thoughts.
Oh, that's ancient man. It's called "Language".

 
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Nov 10,`09 10:11am | Quote |

"ozoneocean" Said:

"therealtj" Said:
I know it probably sounds paranoid, but it's only a matter of time before they start making technology to interpret thoughts.
Oh, that's ancient man. It's called "Language".


Yeah, but we still quite haven't gotten the hang of it. We need some cool device to make it simpler.

An MRI scanner would be a little hard to cart around to control people's brains with.



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Nov 10,`09 10:20am | Quote |

I imagine my hazy plans to overthrow the MIC and replace it with something a tad more... humane would get even blurrier once I read my outline while hooked up to this machine.

Of course, once you outline the plan, you're kind of committed, and I'd rather have maximum flexibility in execution (of the plan, not of people, let's be clear here).

 
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Nov 26,`09 10:05am | Quote |

I doubt they'd use that on serial killers... by the time Dahmer was crucifying squirrels as a child, it was already known that killing small animals in cruel ways is a pattern in serial killers.. and the government did nothing.


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